Except Emma Watson is still nonetheless a third-wave feminist. They’re on the whole of course not consistent with what the motives and set of beliefs are supposed to be.
Rima Rolyat4 days ago
The problem I still have with Family Guy is that It Makes Fun of Bigots, but Bigots Find it Validating. Because Bigots don’t think critically on their own, they don’t see the nuance, thus The Show just feeds their behavior. It’s a great show in theory and for critical viewers, but in practice, unless you have some common sense about you (which many people don’t actually have) it’s effect on people is just a single step down from South Park.
Lily Peet
Lily Peet2 days ago
Bigots also found All in the Family validating despite it throwing endless amounts of derision at them.
Some people think Twilight Sparkle is an autistic character despite showing no symptoms.
Some people think Alone at Sea is an accurate portrayal of abuse despite it being Screams of Silence with less catharsis and more crying.At what point does it stop being the show’s fault and start being the viewer’s fault for being a fucking idiot?
Rima Rolyat
Rima Rolyat2 days ago
Lily Peet Fair enough, but I’d say it becomes the show’s fault when a majority of its audience doesn’t understand it’s true message, and it feeds said majority’s shitty behavior and beliefs. It doesn’t matter how good your intentions are if the impact of your actions are continuously harmful. Because I can tell you that when I was uneducated and transphobic, I knew a lot of people who watched Family Guy, and not a single one found Ida subversive. Instead, we all bonded over our transphobia, thought Brain’s vomiting scene was hyperbolic, but justified, and laughed at Ida not Brian. And I doubt that’s a unique experience from watching the episode. The show just doesn’t encourage you to think critically, it encourages you to laugh, which makes it very easy to take what they say and do at face value if you’re ignorant. Which again, most people are.So I’ll pose a question for you, If “Glass of Water” was genuinely popular with reactionaries making up the majority of your audience, and if every episode you made encouraged the thousands of them watching to continue being reactionary scum, would you be fine with that? Would you continue making content that encouraged genuinely harmful behaviour just because you still had the last laugh?
Lily Peet
Lily Peet2 days ago (edited)
You don’t need to What If that concept, that actually happened. In my early days of Youtube I had a series extremely similar to Glass of Water simply titled “RVI.” I got the wake up call to finally axe the series when Youtube’s “similar channels” panel showed Thunderfoot, Mundane Matt, and Armored Skeptic. Being compared to actual human garbage by a system that is incapable of lying tends to kick your ass in gear.And early episodes of Glass of Water were often neutral enough on topical issues that there was no shortage of people going “Lol, sounds like Tumblr” anytime I talked about ignorant people. So my response was to become more direct and more obvious about who my actual targets were (hence my whole “Fuck Conservatives” attitude and my open distaste for apathetic “moderates”). A tonal shift that saw a 1,500 subscriber drop as those same people abandoned my channel in droves (and good riddance).The kicker is, there are still reactionaries who follow my work. Even when I’ve openly declared that the world would be better if they weren’t breathing. Some people really are just that fucking stupid, and will stick around even when I’m hitting them in the face on a daily basis. Family Guy is very openly leftist. It engages in jokes about race, sexuality or gender identity, but often in a far more clever and affectionate manner like Gabriel Iglesias’ Gift Basket story.And it’s not a majority of Family Guy’s audience either. That’s a flat out exaggeration right there.By and large, bigots are more validated by South Park than by Family Guy. When push comes to shove, Seth MacFarlane is very straightforward regarding his complete and total hatred of the Right. The fact that some people really are stupid enough to feel validated by a show that paints them as complete morons eventually has to fall to them. Bigots were (and still are) also feeling validated by Archie Bunker, that didn’t make All in the Family any less of a classic.
lily-peet:If you genuinely think that being anti-Trump is akin to being anti-white and anti-Christian then what you’re saying is whiteness and Christianity are inherently oppressive to those who don’t fit into those categories. Had they just prosecuted these girls for vandalism then I doubt anyone would’ve cared. But by calling it a hate crime they just played their hand. Stupid fucks.
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