The Downfall of Bhaalspawn (contains possible SJW discussions)

Nobody’s telling you that you have to be a feminist, Anya. Especially not me. What I was actually saying was that if anyone looked at your career without looking at the Fundamentalist bile that’s littering your Tumblr blog, one could be mistaken for thinking that you are a feminist.

Which, incidentally, is the impression that 90% of your audience is going to get.

But this thought exercise relies on looking at feminism as the multi-threaded school of political philosophy it is, and not the gaggle of “loltriggered Tumblrinas” you like to imagine it is.

I have nothing to gain from trying to force you to be a feminist, Anya. I have nothing to gain from trying to stop you from being a conservative. I’m a firm believer in Natural Selection, and if you’re that determined to fuck an electrical socket then more power to you.

But I am going to laugh at you for doing it. Having the freedom to make your own decisions does not, in fact, grant you immunity from your decisions being mocked for being extremely self-destructive. I won’t stop you from jamming a spike into your own leg, but I will laugh when you realize how much it hurts.

I say that your worldview will be ripped from you when you start experiencing life for yourself because your worldview is a fantasy. Women do experience a lot of struggles in real life, struggles that you will see for yourself once you get out into the real world and have to experience it for yourself.

Women who deny the existence of systemic sexism will learn their mistake the very, very hard way.

I’m reminded of when someone called you a misogynist for spewing your delusional, sexist rhetoric and you replied with “You called a woman a misogynist. So according to feminism, wouldn’t that make YOU the misogynist?”

No. That’s not how feminism actually works. It only works that way in your berserk mind. Female misogynists have always been the most common opponent of feminist movements. There has never been a wave of feminism that tried to claim that women cannot be sexist. You made that up.

Of course I say that one of these days you’ll change your mind, because one of these days you’re going to have to stop making things up and actually engage with the complicated philosophy that is real feminism. Not your delusional fantasy of being persecuted for being conservative.

That’s the core of my entire point here: Eventually you’ll have to stop making up bullshit and engage with the real thing that you’re so scared of.

Anya’s persecution complex is so strong that it’s affecting her ability to read. She doesn’t read what’s actually there, she imagines what’s there and responds to that. AKA: Strawman Fallacy.

And yes, Lily has called for the deaths of all conservatives multiple times and I’m not really exaggerating all that much 

And when the Strawman Fallacy doesn’t give you enough comfort, devolve into flat out lying.

Anya’s a special kind of stupid. But we knew that: She’s from Texas.

@Jas
What peet thinks about North Korea i wonder

hauntedyouthwonderland asked:
You used to be dismissive of the right, but now you seem to outright loathe them entirely. What changed?

The Orlando shooting happened.

When people who have been trying to crush the rights of LGBT people for decades turn around and start spewing empty platitudes of “Our prayers are with the victims in Orlando” and then also continue to stubbornly drag their NRA-bribed feet on gun control and actively lie through their teeth in regards to the actual statistics on gun control, any previous distaste very quickly turns into open hostility.

When those same people try to use the slaughter of people they have spent decades trying to slaughter themselves as leverage in “Ban the immigrants, kill the muslims” rhetoric, that open hostility quickly turns into a demand for blood.

When people I used to consider friends spew the same lies and misinformation and turn a blind eye to the hostile environment their own eroded and obsolete worldview has created for a lot of people and openly express to you that they’re voting for a literal nazi because “the Democrat lady frightens me” it’s clear that there is no sanity remaining in the right.

They’re deluded, hostile, driven by an obsessive dogma, proceed to pick and choose what laws they’re going to listen to only when it suits them and their very rich buddies, stir up the sympathies of the ignorant and the uneducated and create media-driven myths about “the communists” or “the gays” or “the liberals” or “the SJW’s (Jews)” to keep rednecks and in-name-only Christians from realizing that they’re the ones bleeding them dry, subvert the will of the people at every possible opportunity, and are more authoritarian and fundamentalist than the Tories, the Bloc and the Taliban combined.

If you aren’t wealthy, white, straight, and a man (and you must be ALL FOUR of those) then the Republicans are trying to kill you.

Kill them first.

I love when discussions of gun control comes up, the deluded twats of the Tea Party talk about how they need their guns if there ever comes a point where they need to overthrow the government.

Yeah right. Some hicks who go to a shooting range and occasionally gun down a brown person are really going to be able to stand against the Army, Navy, Air Force, National Guard, Marines, whatever other legions are at the government’s disposal, plus all the artillery and weapons of mass destruction the United States government has stockpiled. With people who are actually trained in real combat.

Some rednecks with a paranoid fear of “dem commies” are going to overthrow the government of the 2nd most warmongering nation on the planet.

By all means NRA, Tea Party and Neoreactionaries. Go for it. Because the only end result is you die. And I call that a 100% positive change.

A fundamentalist Muslim kills 50 LGBT people, and Conservatives are full of rhetoric about ISIS.

Fundamentalist Christianity kills thousands of LGBT people every year, and Conservatives write it off as “religious freedom.”

To the Conservatives prattling on about ISIS: Just die already.

smartblondesandsarcasm
Anya, feminism means a multitude of different things to a lot of different people. My psychology teacher in senior year told the class that while she did support equality for all genders (and no, not just men and woman), she didn’t consider herself a “feminist” because she considered them to be people who actively participate in the promotion of those ideals and not just people who supported them in their daily lives. I honestly don’t care whether you would label yourself a feminist or not. I know you often support basic feminist ideals such as women being portrayed positively in movies (see your reblog about the many muscular, beautiful women in Wonder Woman, with their practical armor), and that’s great. You see equality as something that should be natural and expected.

But you know what’s a real problem? And it’s something I see every time I browse your blog. There are a lot of things that you reblog that are extremely misogynistic and occasionally transphobic, and I don’t see them having anything to do with being conservative.

For example, as a conservative, you very clearly hold that abortion is morally wrong. Everyone’s uncomfortable with it; and no one would fight you on having such a strong opinion about it. That’s a conservative belief, and that’s fine. What’s not fine are the posts on your blog demonizing Planned Parenthood and everyone it serves (I’m referring to the post of everyone saying they’d never date a person who’d had an abortion), and crying out for it to be criminizalized. You’re harshly judging women (and trans-men) who get abortions, and I will remind you from one Christian to another that judgement is God’s job, not ours. You are also saying your personal beliefs should affect the law and therefore everyone else. Abortion is a necessity, especially with poor sex education, poor access to birth control and high rates of sexual assault. This is not inherently conservative, but it is inherently misogynistic.

Also, saying that the wage gap or women’s oppression in America is wrong is just factually wrong. There is such an overwhelming amount of evidence against this viewpoint that you’d really need to reach to find even one semi-credible source to counter all of it. It’s comparable to anti-vaxxers to cling to such a paltry amount of evidence to uphold your beliefs. Oppression (and by extension the wage gap) simply do exist, and saying otherwise, especially to a large audience, is actually harmful.

Oh, and your reblogged post comparing trans and non-binary genders to fingers is both transphobic and factually incorrect. The concept of there being more than two genders is widespread and extends to many cultures for farther back than perhaps you would believe. LGBT+ people simply do exist, and yes - they like to ship a lot of LGBT+ couple on Tumblr. If you think that they are imposing anything onto you, you really need to remember how much heteronormativity has been imposed on them for ages and just let them have their fun in one of the few spaces they reliably can.

My point, Anya, is that while I still believe you to be a smart, reasonable human being - and neither Lily or myself consider you to be “evil” - you exhibit some pretty poor behavior in regards to women, reproductive rights and especially the LGBT+. And all of that equates to misogyny. I, a woman, am telling you, another woman, that you are being a misogynist when you do these things. It’s hateful, harmful and insensitive to the lives and struggles of real-life people, and you would do well to reflect on all of this the next time you reblog anything similar to the small handful of posts I’ve used as examples.

Feminism is not about imposing anything - not beliefs, lifestyles or defiance of conventional femininity - but it does involve taking a stand against things that are wrong and damaging to society as a whole. And third-wave feminism does have its flaws, as this is the time where we’re trying to iron out the wrinkles in society as the more blatant sexism in the world has (for the most part) been taken care of. But while I can’t nor wouldn’t force you to do or be anything, I am telling you as strongly as I can that you need to really think about what I’ve said here. Do your reblogs only reflect your views as a conservative, or are they harmful to other people.

Edit: Oh, and side note for the original poster. You know what Lily’s fucking name is.

gameguy20100 asked:
Did ink really accuse you of saying “kill all conservatives?” I’m fairly certain to only people you say to kill are Nazis if she thinks those are the same thing well I have a grandmother who won’t like to hear that.

She likely got it from Josh, who interpreted “Kill Donald Trump” as “Kill all the conservatives” because that’s how a persecution complex works.

But that’s me being charitable. The more likely scenario is that because Anya’s so incredibly stupid, she can’t actually content with ideas that contradict her and needs to make up excuses for why she doesn’t have to listen to them.

smartblondesandsarcasm
Anya, feminism means a multitude of different things to a lot of different people. My psychology teacher in senior year told the class that while she did support equality for all genders (and no, not just men and woman), she didn’t consider herself a “feminist” because she considered them to be people who actively participate in the promotion of those ideals and not just people who supported them in their daily lives. I honestly don’t care whether you would label yourself a feminist or not. I know you often support basic feminist ideals such as women being portrayed positively in movies (see your reblog about the many muscular, beautiful women in Wonder Woman, with their practical armor), and that’s great. You see equality as something that should be natural and expected.

But you know what’s a real problem? And it’s something I see every time I browse your blog. There are a lot of things that you reblog that are extremely misogynistic and occasionally transphobic, and I don’t see them having anything to do with being conservative. 

For example, as a conservative, you very clearly hold that abortion is morally wrong. Everyone’s uncomfortable with it; and no one would fight you on having such a strong opinion about it. That’s a conservative belief, and that’s fine. What’s not fine are the posts on your blog demonizing Planned Parenthood and everyone it serves (I’m referring to the post of everyone saying they’d never date a person who’d had an abortion), and crying out for it to be criminizalized. You’re harshly judging women (and trans-men) who get abortions, and I will remind you from one Christian to another that judgement is God’s job, not ours. You are also saying your personal beliefs should affect the law and therefore everyone else. Abortion is a necessity, especially with poor sex education, poor access to birth control and high rates of sexual assault. This is not inherently conservative, but it is inherently misogynistic. 

Also, saying that the wage gap or women’s oppression in America is wrong is just factually wrong. There is such an overwhelming amount of evidence against this viewpoint that you’d really need to reach to find even one semi-credible source to counter all of it. It’s comparable to anti-vaxxers to cling to such a paltry amount of evidence to uphold your beliefs. Oppression (and by extension the wage gap) simply do exist, and saying otherwise, especially to a large audience, is actually harmful. 

Oh, and your reblogged post comparing trans and non-binary genders to fingers is both transphobic and factually incorrect. The concept of there being more than two genders is widespread and extends to many cultures for farther back than perhaps you would believe. LGBT+ people simply do exist, and yes – they like to ship a lot of LGBT+ couple on Tumblr. If you think that they are imposing anything onto you, you really need to remember how much heteronormativity has been imposed on them for ages and just let them have their fun in one of the few spaces they reliably can. 

My point, Anya, is that while I still believe you to be a smart, reasonable human being – and neither Lily or myself consider you to be “evil” – you exhibit some pretty poor behavior in regards to women, reproductive rights and especially the LGBT+. And all of that equates to misogyny. I, a woman, am telling you, another woman, that you are being a misogynist when you do these things. It’s hateful, harmful and insensitive to the lives and struggles of real-life people, and you would do well to reflect on all of this the next time you reblog anything similar to the small handful of posts I’ve used as examples. 

Feminism is not about imposing anything – not beliefs, lifestyles or defiance of conventional femininity – but it does involve taking a stand against things that are wrong and damaging to society as a whole. And third-wave feminism does have its flaws, as this is the time where we’re trying to iron out the wrinkles in society as the more blatant sexism in the world has (for the most part) been taken care of. But while I can’t nor wouldn’t force you to do or be anything, I am telling you as strongly as I can that you need to really think about what I’ve said here. Do your reblogs only reflect your views as a conservative, or are they harmful to other people. 

Edit: Oh, and side note for the original poster. You know what Lily’s fucking name is.

charliecelestia

Hi Lizzy,

Thanks for writing this. Your post was the kind of thing I had in mine when I wrote my response to Anya, but I think you put what you had to say a lot better. The points you brought up are definitely things I heavily disagree with Anya on, but I was a lot more vague about it because I’m naturally not a confrontational person.

It is ultimately up to Anya to educate herself and understand how some of her views can be harmful to others, but I really do hope that she takes the opportunity to broaden her horizons a bit.

I want to believe that Anya is a good person. I want to believe the same about Josh and Lily too. There’s a part of me that wishes that everyone was friends again. I feel like a lot of the problems that happend could have been worked out if everybody just left their egos at the door and talked to each other.

So I go out at 4:30 in the morning to get some coffee, and as I’m coming back home, somebody grabs me by both shoulders from behind and tries to drag me off the sidewalk. When I get a chance to turn around, he get’s one look at my face and goes “Oh, my fault man” and let’s go of me.

NEVER GOING OUT BEFORE DAYLIGHT AGAIN!

sirgalladethenoble asked:
In that recent post, ink rose, conveniently, didn’t bother to correct the other user who called you “Jerry” in her reply. A passive transphobe is still a transphobe.

anonymous asked:
I actually looked at the blog that Ink reblogged from, and apparently “derped2” has a green alt-right flag with a bunch of K’s surrounding it on their front page.

Anya isn’t as “moderate” as she pretends to be. She’s actually one of the more extreme, fundamentalist conservatives out there.

She believes her own position to be the “rational” one, and anyone more right wing or left wing than her is a “radical.” But her positions ARE radical.

Everyone’s an extremist if your center-point is Donald Trump.

None of this is about convincing Anya. It’s about making sure she doesn’t convince anyone else.

anonymous asked:
Opinion of the phrase: Offense is taken, not given.

If you deliberately set out to antagonize someone, you deserve the fallout that happens when they inevitably get tired of your bullshit, and empathy is an important characteristic. The vast, vast, VAST majority of people complaining about other people getting offended are simply assholes who go out of their way to be as antagonistic as humanely possible.

As much as I believe in non-violence being the priority, if you get your ass kicked because you said the word “faggot” one too many times to the wrong person, I have zero sympathy for you. You deserved the beating you got.

Last year, a french newspaper was stormed and shot up by Muslim extremists over a number of racist editorial cartoons. And I, like everyone else, believed that was too far over the line of reasonable and is the destruction of any sense of a civilized society. When you make your rebuttal with bullets, my sympathy for how offended you are goes out the window.

However, at the same time my personal sympathy for the cartoonists in question hovered somewhere around “World’s Smallest Violin” territory.