The Downfall of Bhaalspawn (contains possible SJW discussions)

Jas

Well I got bored so I went to Glass of Water-Discord Pricness to see if I could see any intersting comment chains or comments and I did. First one has Peet and the other is just a random person who sort of sounds like a Social Justice Warrior.
 
davegorack
davegorack4 days ago
You know,nowthat you brought it up…
It is kinda fucked up that none of KP’s so called friends in the broney analysis community brought this up when
all this drama was haping.. except for Antony C.
And He dosint update very often but he was willing to get off his as a defend a friend of his when all this bullshit hit the fan.
Major respect to you and Antony C….and ill keep watching KP because… yeah I like the fact that she always positive and makeing jokes unlike the rest of em.
The rest of the analysis community can fuck off for all i care….
Well except for Finn…kinda hard to not like that guy.
 
MRDZ Entretainment
MRDZ Entretainment1 day ago
I might be grasping on straws here… but I would hazard a guess that everyone of them did it for the same reasons I would have kept quiet:
pay no mind to the bullshit and let KP and her team sort it out… rallying to defend her would have made it look as if the claims were truth…
then again, making a video about KP’s issues in 2017 is, honestly, beating a dead horse in search of topics…
 
Lily Peet
Lily Peet1 hour ago
You might think it’s beating a dead horse, but look beyond the end of your own nose.
The crux of the issue is jealous and hungry crackpots trying to jumpstart rumors. Something that happens constantly. The relevance in 2017 is that this crap keeps happening and it keeps coming from the same sources.
Sure, everyone involved in this particular manufactroversy may have said their “mea culpas” (though frankly the sheer level of bullshit being pushed, someone should have at least been punched in the stomach for that) but just forgetting about it, shrugging your shoulders and moving on means this will only happen again and again and again.
It should never have been a scandal in the first place. There should never have been mass reactions of “OMG SHE’S SO HORRIBLE!” They should have looked at what the source was (Horse News, Chan Boards, Anonymous Twitter accounts, and “How Not To Brony”), and immediately dismissed it as not trustworthy.
The fact that didn’t happen means that the lesson was not learned. And so it is NOT beating a dead horse.
 
yeah it is beating a dead horse when in your own video you mention Anthony C talking about the drama. I mean I
 
know FNGR is also a very scummy person but he does have a really good point you only made this video because
 
people moved on and your detractors all know how opportunistic you can be Peet. Again I will not be surprised if
 
she does a video on Mr. Enter
 
Kris W.M.
Kris W.M.5 days ago
Nice to see the brony fandom can sink to whole new depths of slander and lies. I seriously blame them for warping my younger self’s worldview with their 4-chan bullshit and am glad I got out. Can you believe I used to think they were RIGHT for harassing a teenage girl who thought rape was wrong?!? Jesus, I’m glad I woke up and smelled the roses, I would slap my younger self in the face.
Slave labour though… what ridiculousness. And who are bronies to be getting on a high ground about copyright? Just goes to show how quickly people will turn nasty and form a mob just because someone is popular and how gullible idiots will believe any crap they read online. Slave labour. I can’t get over that. Do these people know what slavery actually is and how you can’t toss that word around? Do they know KP is just one girl making videos on the internet and not some million dollar entity? I feel like I’m quietly observing a damn circus. What a mess of a fandom. You’re the only person I still follow, cause you’re the only one who isn’t caught up in all the bullshit.
I’m really digging the new look btw.
 
funny how you say slavery is thrown around and how you smelt the roses and yet you also forget words like sexist, racist, pedophile, and Nazi are also thrown around.
Jas

you know what is going to make me laugh even though it will be very predictable. Peet using the same image of Mr. Enter if she ever talks about Family Guy dictators
Vortaxonus

@Derped  
QUOTE TIME:”  
anonymous asked:  
Don’t you think if so many people are saying the same thing about you, it might have some merit to it?”  
He’s got a point, espically since you have yet to provide counter-evidence beyond claiming it’s all doctored and shit.  
“Lily Peet:  
Argumentum Ad Populum and Argument by Assertion are not compelling argument.  
I could just as easily deputize my own Discord channel to refute it on the same logic. Or point to the fact that I get a torrent of asks from people talking about how much I’ve enriched their lives whenever crap like this happens.  
Of course, the armchair uninformed bumfucks will just write that off as an “echo chamber”, but is that not exactly what they’re sitting in right now?  
This is of course the reason I generally don’t see these people as actual detractors. They have very little but name calling in their pocket, and when I dismiss it they throw a fit about how I’m not listening to criticism and sitting in an echo chamber. Everything is so carefully constructed so that they’re always right. And everything that contradicts them is just people being “#Triggered.”  
That’s not even getting into the actual mean of this “criticism” in the first place. And because I have a point to make, let’s just do that, shall we?  
  1. “You’re arrogant/Have a huge ego/Think your opinion is THE opinion!”  
    None of these are relevant criticisms. Let’s say that I really am arrogant, and I really do have a massive ego, and I really do think that my opinion is the only correct one in existence.  
    Does that make whatever video you’re mad about… wrong? No it doesn’t.  
    I agree that being patronized or talked down to can feel like shit… which is why I don’t actually do it. As far as I’m concerned, there is nothing more patronizing than opening the first two minutes of a video with meaningless hyperbole about “now this is only my opinion, so put your torches and pitchforks away my easily offended little babies.”  
    So I don’t treat my audience like that. You guys are mostly adults, and so I expect you to act like adults. And NOT throwing an angry hissy fit when you’re told that your opinions are wrong is the bare minimum expected from an adult. Argue that your opinion is actually right. Not that you think I’m trying to force my opinions onto everyone, because such a thing is impossible to actually do.  
  2. “You filter out all negative comments to create an echo chamber!”  
    I can actually disprove that without saying a damn word. Here’s just a sample of the comments I didn’t bother approving on Discord Princess.  
    full  
    full  
    None of these comments are negative, but they still didn’t get approved. That’s because what I actually do (as I’ve explained numerous times) is filter out uninteresting comments to only show the ones that I actually bothered to engage with. And even a cursory glance at the approved comments on any Glass of Water will find that they’re often rather long and often either critical or offering a different perspective, which I then proceed to respond to.  
    “You’re hiding in an echo chamber” is what every single butthurt hack says when their ability to yell at someone isn’t 100% unrestricted. They ALWAYS cry censorship. They ALWAYS cry “echo chamber.” They ALWAYS pull this nonsense. They see someone making liberal use of the blocking tool and moderating comments, and immediately cry “Echo chamber!”  
    No I’m not. There’s the proof. Fuck off.  
  3. “You silence your detractors!”  
    I don’t have the power to actually do that. All I can do is report what I believe to be a violation of the rules a website puts into place. I have no authority in the decision making. I can’t force Youtube to take down a video. I can’t force Twitter to suspend somebody. And I’m not obligated to give someone a platform just because they want it.  
    I keep getting invited to debates and podcasts with different people, but when I ask them to elaborate on what they wanted to talk about, they always have very little to offer than “a dissenting opinion.” A dissenting opinion isn’t much. They’re common. And I wouldn’t consider a dissenting opinion to mean someone is a detractor. A lot of hardcore fans have dissenting opinions, and my videos are essentially a stress-test on how strong their opinions are.  
    And to reiterate, people who misgender me and scream the above listed “criticisms” are not my detractors. They’re just angry and bitter. My biggest detractors are Xain and Lizzy, who disagree with me very frequently, especially on the podcast, and are capable of holding their own in a discussion without having to resort to “Muh ‘pinion.”  
    They don’t immediately topple when you so much as blow on them. That’s what a detractor looks like. Hating me doesn’t make you a detractor. It just means you hate me. Disagreeing with me doesn’t make you a detractor. It just means you disagree with me. Running away screaming about how arrogant I am when I tell you that you’re wrong without actually offering a rebuttal doesn’t make you a detractor. It just makes you terrible at having a discussion.  
    Git gud, scrub.  
  4. “You think you’re better than everyone else!”  
    I don’t. I’ve been on record multiple times that I have a very low opinion of my own work. I don’t think I’m a particularly good critic or philosopher. I have no post secondary education and very little actual background.  
    The likes of Lindsey Ellis, Hbomberguy, Jim Sterling, Bob Chipman, Contrapoints, these people are all massive leagues ahead of me and on a level that I’m probably never going to reach. These people intimidate me, and I respect them a great deal. The most humbling experience I ever had in recent memory was when I (at the age of 20) had to be educated on a basic sociological phenomenon (rape culture) by a teenager. You do not retain any delusion that you’re an expert on anything when that happens.  
    What I do is presume that I know more about these things than most average people in a fandom. That isn’t saying much. I know more about computers than my 50 year old mother, that doesn’t mean I think I’m some kind of amazing computer technician.  
    Do I know more about Autism than a psychiatrist? No. Do I know more about Autism than some rando reading this post? It’s a safe bet to say yes. That’s not thinking I’m better than everyone else, that’s KNOWING I’m better than the least informed.  
    And the fact that you (hypothetical you) think that’s something to be ashamed of is rabidly anti-intellectual.  
  5. “You’re just as bad as <Insert Thing I Complain About>”  
    If you recognize that both I and the thing I’m complaining about are equally bad, why aren’t you dedicating an equal amount of time complaining about that thing as well? Why do I, a relatively small-time Youtuber, occupy more of your time and energy?  
    Complaining about this shit is my job. What’s your excuse?  
  6. “I’m sick of hearing you complain about X!”  
    I’m sick of X continuing to be a problem. Looks like neither of us are getting what we want.  
    The important thing to note is that if you’re a long-time viewer you’ve probably heard all this before. That’s because despite the cries of the terminally uneducated and the criminally witless, I have engaged with these criticisms numerous times.  
    What I refuse to do is allow people to waste my time with the same complaints over and over and over and over again. There is a limit to how many times I am expected to address the same complaint.  
    That limit is “Once.” And I have more than gone over it.”
Jas

@Derped
 
like someone pointed out on Kiwi Farms. Peet’s violence tendencies has finally rubbed off on her fans. I love how
 
all this is because FNGR used Lizzy’s drawing of Peet and added a beard on the puppet. Again Lizzy says nothing
 
when Peet got ticked off at Anime Christy and yet it is an issue when FNGR uses her art work. Double standers am
 
I right?
Jas

here is something Peet related from Kiwi Farms
 
https://archive.is/0lOyd
 
for those that don’t want to click on the link.
 
sunnyhug asked:
Your word is law for the next ten minutes what do you decree?
 
Trump, Pence and Ryan must be immediately executed.
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