Don't blame me, I voted for the other guy. (Politics General)

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Global Peace Index 2019 edition (107 pages)
 
It’s a PDF btw. So careful there, mobile users. Also, the US is ranked 128th among 163 countries, making it one of the most dangerous countries in the world. For comparison, my small palm oil country of Malaysia, which is about 2 years ago was riffed with government corruption, money laundering, excessive racism and religious extremism, is ranked 16th. I mean, we had a change of government after the whole 1MDB scandal. The difference is that our change of government actually did good, unlike Trump.
 
So yeah, I’m actually kinda proud of my country. I still hate it somewhat but at least it’s doing good.
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@CaptainXtra  
there’s no real such a thing as early or late capitalism since capitalism is a simple math principle :
 
you produce something, and can choose not to. ( why making something you don’t need or no one needs )  
you can sell it if someone wants it or keep it for yourself at the price you decide ( the law of offer and demand.)  
you have the right to earn a compensation and keep your revenues for the work you have done.  
you do whavever you want with the money you have made as long someone accept it.
 
that’s the very base, it’s not even politics, unless you live in a regime that decide you’re not eligible for a revenue for your work. Slavery in a nutshell.
 
 
now there are a few things.  
overproduction leads to mass consumerism and throwaway devices that won’t last and create a lot of pollution and waste for nothing.  
globalization does not creates jobs, and if you want to adapt, you will have to accept to work 13, 14 hours a day and be paid a misery to be competitive.  
monopolies preventing free entrepreneurship.  
lobbyism, the relation between corporations and governments, when governments invest money to help megacorporations, give billionaires tax cuts ( billionaires, not the millionaires and local makers CEOs who should have tax cuts but they don’t ) well, I’m gonna simplify a lot.
 
by principle, and this is from a HR person. YOU are a corporation. A corporation is a legal form of a person.  
When you draw a commission and sell it, your name is your corporation.  
When you are an employee, your boss is your customer. You can chose not to work and the guy has the right not to pay you.
 
That’s exactly your right. it works also for a left wing government and here’s what is happening : billion-dollar enterprises, which are corporations are also eligible to a form of welfare. And this is where things are going wrong.  
Liberalism helps these corporations that produce nothing here anymore. This should be good that the state helps your local computer maker, your local business, groceries, Pedro’s pizza restaurant or Billy Bob who customize trucks in his garage and his family.
 
Instead these guys pays a shitton of tax at least here in France and on your payslip you check the deductions, and also keep in mind the corporation also pays even more tax, while international corps who come and get their offices implemented there, will pay less, if not nothing. The government will welcome them.
 
«Hello Exxon, hello BP, Microsoft, Oracle! Bayer! Pfeizer! DOW! Oh sure you are in direct challenge to our national companies, but you Americans are so cool and so strong, hey I want to buy a coca cola from you, here, have some Alstohm, or might you want some Areva? Renault maybe? Oh nothing like your Chrysler…»
 
The real enemy of capitalism is liberalism. It’s the globalist’s mafia. Of course, corporations have all interest to have a socialist government, they won’t pay more taxes or even you won’t see any benefit from the “equality” promised. There will still be billionaires in power, that will not change, and you, you just won’t have the right to work when you want, where you want.
 
 
Then there’s another thing that maintains this system alive and it’s not even longer money. Money is now printed continuously by the ECB or the FED; sprinkling to ensure there is still that cycle of consumerism, but the real thing on what the money is backed on isn’t a standard anymore, like gold, but instead on the market and speculation. And this does not have any reference, not even on the production - we barely make any cars and have agriculture left.
 
We are limited in resources, which forces the globalists to skip capitalist trade, that is what keeps peaceful relations, with WAR. especially in the midwest because well ; oil. The arabs aren’t going to accept a money that is no longer backed by a real value or production. No one else will.
 
This is why there’s terrorism. «oh how do they get those weapons? Hey we can get you rid of them, let us bomb em for some oil. Or we bomb you for democracy.»
 
This is the New World Order lots of people told us about. except there is no illuminati or a central bad guy worshipping satan or some ancient nazis shit. It’s something our lifestyle have made.
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I would like to point out anyone who takes political philosophy seriously will find everything Patachu fucking hilarious.
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@CaptainXtra  
yeah, it’s fun. when we protested against the GATS, the EU’s force-passed constitution, bringing the bases of federalism ( this means no central control for the democratically-elected official) and all kind of freedom restricting directive, we were labelled as communists, retrogrades.
 
Since a while now things have changed, now you dare criticizing brussels’s decision, you’re being labelled as a nazi, a nationalist or retrograde conservative.
 
In reality there’s no longer really a distinction between right and left, the axis are different, one is for international domination ( and in the end, what happens in HK, here with the yellow vest, in the south america, in a LOT of countries where corporations wants to implement their mines ( Vale ) manu militari, this is globalism.  
on contrario when a country wishes to keep their borders will be taxed of “enemies of freedom”.
 
Saddam was a leftist. Ghadaffi was a leftist too. Many leaders who had still countries with borders tend to disappear with a revolt backed by a bunch of people. This is now really a conflict between globalists and nationalists. Right or left are irrelevant.
 
You can throw Marx, Engels, Locke and Smith are completely irrelevant. It’s like fixing and securing a RHEL X64 server filled wiht Opterons with a Norton Family 2000 CD. The optics of today’s world are completely different, we need to analyze the situation and understand the whole picture.
 
Yes, that directive is going to impact us a lot, especially targeting free speech. They can do it ; because they feel they are legitimate. Except I don’t recall voting for them. No one did, it was really a bureaucratic clusterfuck that gave life to a more complex machine to rule together and keep in power.
 
I dunno but seeing the effort they make to refuse to give Britain their right to independence again tells me they are not that strong.
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Correct me if i’m reading that wrong, but that looks like it’s ranking nations based on global peace, as in, as it specifies, unresolved conflicts and war. Not the level of danger there is in living in the nation itself due to local crime.
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@AaronMk  
Yeah do tell.  
What’s your view on the society and current politics,  
What’s your conclusion, your analysis.  
Explain your point of view and if you things are right enough, or not that bad, or if you think you can live peacefully in such a situation  
What are your perspectives for a future, short or long term. Finally, your philosophy, because politics should not be mixed with philo.
 
Philosophy is a tool to make you understand what’s fucked and what goes wrong.  
Politics is where you find solutions to problems.
 
Go ahead, I have been reading your posts for a while but still expect to see any of your views and what backs them up~
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@AaronMk  
A summary description of socialism? I know what’s your utopia like, but go ahead. Tell us again what “socialism” is, for you.  
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@Scrabbleman  
The US has slowly became a place with peak criminality and we all know the causes, but this doc is really a good read. It’s sourced, neutral, and exposes facts.
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@Patachu  
Socialism is a political and economic theory of social organization, there’s many versions of it but essentially it’s living without capitalist’s dictatorship and sharing with the whole community with equality in mind.
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@AaronMk  
Yes and no.
 
@Patachu  
@Patachu  
Could you just not make shorter posts?  
We agree, corporations and globalists are bad, but you rather want to fix capitalism with far right nationalism.
 
Germany tried this in the 1930s it just caused a world war and the genocide of millions of jews, so don’t.
 
You’re picking the wrong enemy mentioning China, you sound exactly like Trump blaming globalists and liberals but it’s really capitalism your enemy here.
 
I want to correct you, capitalists creates consumerism.
 
Workers aren’t capitalists, they are mostly the exploited class, by the capitalist. They exploit someone’s work and sell it the high price, this is why you want to ignore capitalism.
 
There’s nothing wrong showing your support for the LGPTQIA+ or any social justice cause. But I know what you’re trying to make some people think.
 
Have you read Sombart?
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STOP KOSA!
Okay people, what’s the true cause for all of our current issues?
 
 
@Mote
 
@TheMagpulPone
 
@Patachu
 
Can we all agree on at least ONE FUCKING THING?
 
WHAT’S THE BEST WAY TO ENSURE A GOOD FUTURE FOR ALL OF US SO THAT WE DON’T SUFFER UNDER CORPORATISM, GLOBALISM, OR LORD KNOWS WHAT OTHER ORWELLIAN NIGHTMARE AWAITS US?
 
I’m gonna be honest, I’m truly unhappy and nervous right now.
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@TheMagpulPone  
Can you ….Not?
 
@TheMagpulPone  
Even if a politics would be here to defend them and their rights? Let’s ask the workers themselves what they would choose.
 
What workers want? Just the ability to eat, have a home, and have a decent life. We can have this.
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In Vino Veritas
Some screaming idiot in Tennessee, a county commissioner I believe, was ranting about how a gay man running for president shows that white peoples rights are being taken away.
 
When rightly called an idiot, he defended himself with “muh opinions”.
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@CaptainXtra  
We give up all structures of control, the Rothschilds-owned central banks, the control structures and start producing locally again, instead of being based on an economy of just “services”.
 
Having borders will not prevent trade with others, but will ensure simply the sovereignty and the security of employment, and even social benefits, since the value produced will remain in the hands of people who can build again and ensure a future for their families, all that. ( Or in booze, blackjack and hookers. )
 
 
@CaptainXtra  
Ah yes, she’s got more balls than most of the opponents we have here! I love britain and people like this, they are real to themselves and their beliefs.
 
 
@Mote  
No I can’t sup up all my thoughts on all that crap in a tweet. This is not the level of a forum, if you guys don’t like it, you’re gonna hate me, but I tell you, the situation can not be summed up with “left versus right”  
There are more dimensions in the reality and this is exactly what we have in politics today. We lived for centuries without globalization, and still had our nintendo, sega, computers, books and ponies made in Italy… And all kind of things! It was expensive, but in comparison there was employment.
 
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I also hate seeing the world we live in, and agree with you guys, but you know, we can have both freedom, AND wealth, instead of accelerating inevitably towards a future financial crisis that will lead to more war.
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You forgot freedom. I dunno about where you live, but here, there’s a reason why the quote Give me Liberty or give me death, is still a very common saying.
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