Don't blame me, I voted for the other guy. (Politics General)
Background Pony #91A9
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Background Pony #DCBC
@CaptainXtra
I’m not American but I agree, hate this guy.
Money is ruining everything, every fandom you have artists asking hundreds for drawings. In the furry fandom it’s a huge business and prices usually climbs.
‘I do it cause I like to draw! But for you I’m charging €€€ for a commission, also I’m a good artist my parents paid for my art school! You can’t pay? Draw yourself lol!’
You can’t claim to be socialist with an obsession of making profit off people.
This makes me want to vomit, there’s no empathy even in the bronies.
I’m not American but I agree, hate this guy.
Money is ruining everything, every fandom you have artists asking hundreds for drawings. In the furry fandom it’s a huge business and prices usually climbs.
‘I do it cause I like to draw! But for you I’m charging €€€ for a commission, also I’m a good artist my parents paid for my art school! You can’t pay? Draw yourself lol!’
You can’t claim to be socialist with an obsession of making profit off people.
This makes me want to vomit, there’s no empathy even in the bronies.
Background Pony #DCBC
@Background Pony #C078
People must accept being paid for just what they need, and learn to conform! Is this hard? We canot continue like this, but guaranteeing basic needs for all. Regardless of class or gender or identity.
People must accept being paid for just what they need, and learn to conform! Is this hard? We canot continue like this, but guaranteeing basic needs for all. Regardless of class or gender or identity.
Background Pony #DCBC
Nationalism keep people closed in their own bubbles and obsolescence of culture. Globalization is destroying this by forcing people being opened more than ever.
I think we can all work together, and especially in the EU, which should be more socialist.
International-socialism is what I think about, cause we have to work together, plan and keep the world’s resources and bring in return exchanges with developing countries.
I think we can all work together, and especially in the EU, which should be more socialist.
International-socialism is what I think about, cause we have to work together, plan and keep the world’s resources and bring in return exchanges with developing countries.
Vivace 
“ShimSham my GlimGlams”
I fear the misquote “Money is the root of all evil” is spreading. It’s “the love” of money at evil’s root.
Background Pony #DCBC
@Vivace
Having too much money makes you selfish and you love it, because if you keep it despite having enough you’re selfish.
Depossess every landlord,
Abolish private property.
Having too much money makes you selfish and you love it, because if you keep it despite having enough you’re selfish.
Depossess every landlord,
Abolish private property.
Vivace
“ShimSham my GlimGlams”
@Background Pony #5AD0
You have to consider how the wealth was acquired (ethical vs criminal means) & how much they give back.
You have to consider how the wealth was acquired (ethical vs criminal means) & how much they give back.
Dustcan 
We do! It’s called an Estate Tax.
It only affects the top like 40,000 people in the country, but naturally the repeal of it has been a cornerstone of Republican policy for decades. The same party that spends every waking moment poor shaming and victim blaming the lower class while going on and on about ‘bootstraps’. But that’s neither here nor there.
Dogs
@Dustcan
people who inherit fortunes is plain wrong and unfair. You die, your millions and billions must be redistributed. We need laws for this!
We do! It’s called an Estate Tax.
It only affects the top like 40,000 people in the country, but naturally the repeal of it has been a cornerstone of Republican policy for decades. The same party that spends every waking moment poor shaming and victim blaming the lower class while going on and on about ‘bootstraps’. But that’s neither here nor there.
Zincy 
In Vino Veritas
“Turkey is attacking our allies, violating NATO rules, and flaunting US intervention threats”.
Trump: “Sanction Iran? :)”
“No, Turkey is…
Trump: “Sanction :) Iran:)”
Trump: “Sanction Iran? :)”
“No, Turkey is…
Trump: “Sanction :) Iran:)”
Background Pony #7950
@Background Pony #C078
Capitalism doesn’t work and cannot work because it’s premise is that people should get unequal pay for equal work. This removes the incentive to work because everyone who can work is enslaved to working for the rich who don’t with nothing left for themselves or their families. It’s the most unfair system in the world and the economics of it are unsound. It’s also untenable in the long term because money doesn’t hold it’s value and everything breaks down which means capitalism only lasts till the people runs out or until the people die with no one to help them. Look at the history of any capitalist country and you’ll see the results.
Your post puts more importance into the money than the people.
Capitalism doesn’t work and cannot work because it’s premise is that people should get unequal pay for equal work. This removes the incentive to work because everyone who can work is enslaved to working for the rich who don’t with nothing left for themselves or their families. It’s the most unfair system in the world and the economics of it are unsound. It’s also untenable in the long term because money doesn’t hold it’s value and everything breaks down which means capitalism only lasts till the people runs out or until the people die with no one to help them. Look at the history of any capitalist country and you’ll see the results.
Your post puts more importance into the money than the people.
CaptainXtra
STOP KOSA!
@The Smiling Pony
Which countries are likely to make all their companies pull their online platforms out of the EU to avoid complying with the Directive?
I mean, I don’t picture a place like Russia bending over to EU laws FOR ANYTHING.
Which countries are likely to make all their companies pull their online platforms out of the EU to avoid complying with the Directive?
I mean, I don’t picture a place like Russia bending over to EU laws FOR ANYTHING.
Background Pony #7950
@Background Pony #5AD0
Philantropy angers the right wing. Take Georges Soros and his foundation, coming to help migrants and centre-left or more realistic left-wing movements. OpenBorders is an important organization funded by rich philantropists who use their insane money with intelligence, for the well of the people.
The Bill and Melinda Gates foundation is also a good foundation, they know they won’t be buried with their billions. Every billionaire should spend their fortune in the human.
Elon Musk isn’t a right person, spending money in rockets is not profitable for progress. Space is just a horrible waste of resources to spend money on nothing instead of helping human beings.
Personally I don’t even believe the NASA sent many or even one mission to the Moon. It was under Nixon and was just a huge propaganda to say like “Look how mighty the capitalism can be, Amerikkka fuck yeah!”
Not all billionaires or corporations are evil, most are working for improving society.
Earlier in this thread that Aryanne artist was talking about Open Source or Free software.
Okay.
It’s free, it’s helping, does it helps the community? Computers costs money and you still need to know how to install and use Linux software. Not everybody can do it. It’s complex, and not a solution.
He’s wrong - He supports Open Source because it is closer to an elitist fandom and basement dwellers and it’s always been. Free software is not communism, it’s anarchy. There is no control, there is no diversity or safety of having an employment and revenue.
Big Tech industry hires people regardless of their status, we have diversity, equal opportunity allowing people with student debt to have the chance of their life.
Discrimination in race gender or intelligence is a thing of the past, you can have an experience and be important for the corporation. Since a decade corporations have been doing more than governments, even more since tr*mp came to power.
Big Tech also helps countries in development to have production and revenues and this is a positive aspect of outsourcing, we focus in the technology and design, while others can work on the easy part.
Your smartphone is not Made in China or just Designed in California, it is a product of the world, and this is why I love my job.
Big Tech adapts. Google, Facebook, Apple, Microsoft are pushing movements in society and help spreading ideals. This thread is the proof it works.
Deplatforming far right propaganda is also the proof the intentions of Big Tech isn’t negative but helps on a cohesion and forcing a change. Same for issues on climate, on gender, on racism.
Communities like Tumblr, Twitter, Youtube, Social Media are shaping our civilization and made more for socialism than most governments in America or Europe so far.
It’s all about people and technology, not money and people. Let’s not be pessimistic, technology is our weapon and our ally in this fight.
Philantropy angers the right wing. Take Georges Soros and his foundation, coming to help migrants and centre-left or more realistic left-wing movements. OpenBorders is an important organization funded by rich philantropists who use their insane money with intelligence, for the well of the people.
The Bill and Melinda Gates foundation is also a good foundation, they know they won’t be buried with their billions. Every billionaire should spend their fortune in the human.
Elon Musk isn’t a right person, spending money in rockets is not profitable for progress. Space is just a horrible waste of resources to spend money on nothing instead of helping human beings.
Personally I don’t even believe the NASA sent many or even one mission to the Moon. It was under Nixon and was just a huge propaganda to say like “Look how mighty the capitalism can be, Amerikkka fuck yeah!”
Not all billionaires or corporations are evil, most are working for improving society.
Earlier in this thread that Aryanne artist was talking about Open Source or Free software.
Okay.
It’s free, it’s helping, does it helps the community? Computers costs money and you still need to know how to install and use Linux software. Not everybody can do it. It’s complex, and not a solution.
He’s wrong - He supports Open Source because it is closer to an elitist fandom and basement dwellers and it’s always been. Free software is not communism, it’s anarchy. There is no control, there is no diversity or safety of having an employment and revenue.
Big Tech industry hires people regardless of their status, we have diversity, equal opportunity allowing people with student debt to have the chance of their life.
Discrimination in race gender or intelligence is a thing of the past, you can have an experience and be important for the corporation. Since a decade corporations have been doing more than governments, even more since tr*mp came to power.
Big Tech also helps countries in development to have production and revenues and this is a positive aspect of outsourcing, we focus in the technology and design, while others can work on the easy part.
Your smartphone is not Made in China or just Designed in California, it is a product of the world, and this is why I love my job.
Big Tech adapts. Google, Facebook, Apple, Microsoft are pushing movements in society and help spreading ideals. This thread is the proof it works.
Deplatforming far right propaganda is also the proof the intentions of Big Tech isn’t negative but helps on a cohesion and forcing a change. Same for issues on climate, on gender, on racism.
Communities like Tumblr, Twitter, Youtube, Social Media are shaping our civilization and made more for socialism than most governments in America or Europe so far.
It’s all about people and technology, not money and people. Let’s not be pessimistic, technology is our weapon and our ally in this fight.
Background Pony #7950
@CaptainXtra
Please stop being pessimistic about Art.13, its purpose isn’t to censor legitimate content but to help creators and prevent piracy.
EU is on a bad phase, we have to deal with populism, far right, oppositions and the as**les who voted for the brexit.
Pss Vest in France are using it as another reason to protest EU’s directives.
FYI the far right and right wing opposed Art.13, the reason is Art.13/17 essentially is giving the legal tools for hosts like Youtube and other websites to limit certain content.
Copyrighted works used for defamatory purposes is the most important, if a nazi site shares books like Mein Kampf, the Great Replacement, reposts videos for propaganda purposes on their favor with Alex Jones-like comments, it will stop.
No, unlike many I don’t think freedom of speech is granted. Freedom of speech is today used to spread disinformation and fake news. Lies about the holocaust, and nazi crimes, lies about migrants, gender-based hate speech.
With Art.13 by example if a company like Hasbro they could take down all Aryanne pics. Artists can also requests their art being taken down from racist threads on site like 4chan or MLpol, and of course the original artist of the nazi frog can also stop the misuse of his work :)
Please stop being pessimistic about Art.13, its purpose isn’t to censor legitimate content but to help creators and prevent piracy.
EU is on a bad phase, we have to deal with populism, far right, oppositions and the as**les who voted for the brexit.
Pss Vest in France are using it as another reason to protest EU’s directives.
FYI the far right and right wing opposed Art.13, the reason is Art.13/17 essentially is giving the legal tools for hosts like Youtube and other websites to limit certain content.
Copyrighted works used for defamatory purposes is the most important, if a nazi site shares books like Mein Kampf, the Great Replacement, reposts videos for propaganda purposes on their favor with Alex Jones-like comments, it will stop.
No, unlike many I don’t think freedom of speech is granted. Freedom of speech is today used to spread disinformation and fake news. Lies about the holocaust, and nazi crimes, lies about migrants, gender-based hate speech.
With Art.13 by example if a company like Hasbro they could take down all Aryanne pics. Artists can also requests their art being taken down from racist threads on site like 4chan or MLpol, and of course the original artist of the nazi frog can also stop the misuse of his work :)
CaptainXtra
STOP KOSA!
- Article 13 isn’t a left or right issue, it had bipartisan protesters, are you forgetting about Julia Ruda, a left leaning pro EU individual or the EFF who are on the progressive side?
Also don’t forget that this law was created and drafted partially by right leaning groups.
- I agree with Hate Filled Toxic ”Artwork” that use copyrighted characters being removed as a positive.
- You can dislike Brexit and the Yellow Vests to kingdom come, we can disagree to all hell on that and it’s fine but you are NOT to tell me what I can and can’t support.
I do NOT support bigotry or fascism in ANY form to be clear here.
HELL, you all know my hatred for Trump and the GOP here in the US.
(I also don’t care much for Brexit either way, that whole thing has been a cluterfuck since day one.)
- I’m aware that misinformation fueling conspiracy nuts like Mr. “TuRnInG tHe FrOgS gEhY” exist but why potentially punish everyone else for the actions of a few bad apples with unintended consequences that people can’t really prepare for or even expect?
Background Pony #91A9
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Zincy
In Vino Veritas
We got a tidal-wave happening in DC.
Despite the Trump admin’s attempts at stonewall, several major witnesses are coming to testify. Hill testified yesterday, Kent just got out of a closed door sessions, with McKinley and Cooper testifying later this week.
The administration furiously tried to block all of them from appearing before the House, threatening Hill with a lawsuit and Mckinley was forced to resign to appear before the committee.
Like every wall Trump has tried to build, this one crumbled before it was ever built.
Despite the Trump admin’s attempts at stonewall, several major witnesses are coming to testify. Hill testified yesterday, Kent just got out of a closed door sessions, with McKinley and Cooper testifying later this week.
The administration furiously tried to block all of them from appearing before the House, threatening Hill with a lawsuit and Mckinley was forced to resign to appear before the committee.
Like every wall Trump has tried to build, this one crumbled before it was ever built.
Background Pony #7950
@byte[]
@CaptainXtra
I’m a left-wing person. My country had a sad history with nais… I know the page is turned but we must protect what we have built so far and continue, even if it have disadvantages. There are always people who will find disadvantages in every system, even the best, even for the best of the majority.
If I learned a thing, being socialist is most importantly accepting the laws. The opposite is being libertarian, the refusal to conform and feel entitled all kind of rights.
What can go wrong? loss of some pony creation on copyright grounds? Don’t violate copyrights.
Comrades told me that was not fair because the majority voted against. Who was this majority? Populist parties.
Is democracy the most important thing? That would mean Brexiters are legitimate. That would mean the asshles who voted for tr*mp are legitimate.
Democracy is not always the right choice, when something looks unfair, it is important to have someone to decide and say “halt.”
Yes even if it will be unfair for some, it’s important to accept.
@CaptainXtra
I’m a left-wing person. My country had a sad history with nais… I know the page is turned but we must protect what we have built so far and continue, even if it have disadvantages. There are always people who will find disadvantages in every system, even the best, even for the best of the majority.
If I learned a thing, being socialist is most importantly accepting the laws. The opposite is being libertarian, the refusal to conform and feel entitled all kind of rights.
What can go wrong? loss of some pony creation on copyright grounds? Don’t violate copyrights.
Comrades told me that was not fair because the majority voted against. Who was this majority? Populist parties.
Is democracy the most important thing? That would mean Brexiters are legitimate. That would mean the asshles who voted for tr*mp are legitimate.
Democracy is not always the right choice, when something looks unfair, it is important to have someone to decide and say “halt.”
Yes even if it will be unfair for some, it’s important to accept.
CaptainXtra
STOP KOSA!
@Background Pony #99EE
So in other words, are you saying that you’re alright with living in possibly undemocratic systems with questionable laws?
Because I’m sure that at least millions of people, both left and right leaning, would disagree HEAVILY with you.
Think clearly here, are you TRULY fine without democracy?
So in other words, are you saying that you’re alright with living in possibly undemocratic systems with questionable laws?
Because I’m sure that at least millions of people, both left and right leaning, would disagree HEAVILY with you.
Think clearly here, are you TRULY fine without democracy?
Background Pony #7950
@CaptainXtra
Yes.
Democracy is, let’s not forget, the rule of a majority over minorities. Democracy isn’t either not talking the right decision.
Some topics can be voted using democracy, others requires a consensus from experts who knows the right decision to take.
And on this subject and many others I trust the European Union than people who do their own “research” and come up with spreading toxic conspiracy theories.
The best way to protect democracy is in fact to ignore it, just like a child.
Taking care of your child is also knowing when to tell them “no”.
Yes.
Democracy is, let’s not forget, the rule of a majority over minorities. Democracy isn’t either not talking the right decision.
Some topics can be voted using democracy, others requires a consensus from experts who knows the right decision to take.
And on this subject and many others I trust the European Union than people who do their own “research” and come up with spreading toxic conspiracy theories.
The best way to protect democracy is in fact to ignore it, just like a child.
Taking care of your child is also knowing when to tell them “no”.
CaptainXtra
STOP KOSA!
@Background Pony #99EE
You know what?
Fine, you can feel free to continue viewing things that way but I certainly don’t agree with you.
I’m not going to change my mind anytime soon and I’m hoping that at least one other person here agrees with me. 😒
I’m done debating with you but I’m not gonna leave this thread.
You know what?
Fine, you can feel free to continue viewing things that way but I certainly don’t agree with you.
I’m not going to change my mind anytime soon and I’m hoping that at least one other person here agrees with me. 😒
I’m done debating with you but I’m not gonna leave this thread.
CaptainXtra
STOP KOSA!
@byte[]
For better or for worse.
🤨
Anyway I’m curious as to if The Smiling Pony will answer the question I asked before I went off on that debate.
For better or for worse.
🤨
Anyway I’m curious as to if The Smiling Pony will answer the question I asked before I went off on that debate.
Patachu 
@Background Pony #99EE
@Background Pony #99EE
Every single line… Neither Aaron or Commune can get on your level; sir !
@Background Pony #99EE
Every single line… Neither Aaron or Commune can get on your level; sir !
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