Don't blame me, I voted for the other guy. (Politics General)

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@Mikey  
These people need to get a fucking life. Both sides. ‘protesting’ nonsense.  
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Yes you absolutely fucking can. “not all” is not a fucking argument. There’s such a thing called trends. These people who act this way associate themselves with antifa, what does that say about antifa as a whole? That it’s fucking garbage.
 
A garbage ‘movement’ for garbage people. Seriously, fuck antifa.
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And they harass and vandalize, too. There’s something called “peaceful protesting” yet nothing Antifa does is peaceful.
 
Oh boo-hoo. Cry me a river. I’ve said it before: insurance exists for a reason. Of you want to stop what’s happening break the cycle. The Alti-right and AntiFa don’t exist within a vacume and when it comes down to it I don’t shed a tear for a few battered fashies.
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@Lord Hypno  
As if that matters, these places need to bait suckers in to meet quotas either way; teaching a fluff course that anyone can teach and only a idiot can fail is free money.
 
 
@Violet Rose in The Rain  
A laughable list from a totally not biased source…
 
What’s with the anger issues? Are you studying one if these degrees and in denial?
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@AaronMk
How about you find your own essay and re-post it, or tell us what it was about to make it easier to find in the first place, or else don’t bring it up as a way to be dismissive?
 
Here, since I’m going to be better than some.
 
I spent a good 2/3 of my break doing this 4 u.
 
Anyways, I’d like to add some additional comments: you may hear about AntiFa counter-tactics, but why do you ever hear the violent ones? Shit makes news, the cases where they come together in solidarity to protest against White nationalists don’t hit the news if nothing happens. While I’m nearing the end of my break so can’t be assed to dig it up, there was an AntiFascist/Anti White Nationalist protest after a pamphleting campaign by some white power group a year back that was met with a counter protest by locals. Nothing happened, so it only got a passing mention in the back pages; but I haven’t seen or heard of any further far-right activity.
 
Most recently there was demonstrations in Charoletsville where nothing happened. The most “violent” thing the demonstrators did was blocking reporters from going to the Heather Heyer memorial and capitalizing on community grief.
 
Otherwise, the police were the ones leveling guns at medics and shit throughout the days events according to ground sources.
 
The lack of anything news worthy happens too may boil down to how little coverage Unite the White 2 has gotten in comparison to it’s lead up where I swear it was a solid week of news chatter. But then it happened and most of what I got came from memesters on YoyTube. Despite large numbers of counter protestors and presumably many AntiFa, nothing happened except for a few hurt feelings.
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@Violet Rose in The Rain  
Oh yeah.
 
Gender studies is great. If you love learning about and preaching bullshit ideology.
 
The only thing that a gender studies degree qualifies you to do is spew feminist rhetoric on blogs like ‘the guardian’.
 
What is there to learn about gender that everyone doesn’t already know by the age of like, 8? Men and women are different. There you go, that’s your whole gender studies curriculum summed up in less than 6 words.
 
You’d be much better off pursuing a degree in Psychology. At least that way, you might actually end up helping someone; read: learning something useful.
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@Lord Hypno
As if that matters, these places need to bait suckers in to meet quotas either way; teaching a fluff course that anyone can teach and only a idiot can fail is free money.
You know, I am more than happy to return to your original point and agree that there is a conversation to be had about the modern day necessity of a college degree and whether there are some career paths shouldn’t require having one, but this is a bit uncalled for.
 
 
@kylebiddle  
What is there to learn about gender that everyone doesn’t already know by the age of like, 8?
Well, there’s thousands years of anthropological development, a variety of sociological aspects, psychological issues, cross-cultural comparisons, historical context, myths, legends, cultural shifts, religious beliefs and practices, and about a thousand other things that combine to explain why certain genders have been treated certain ways by different cultures around the worlds at various points throughout history. Oh, and what can be done moving forward to improve understanding, communication, and interaction between said genders.
 
 
@kylebiddle  
Men and women are different. There you go, that’s your whole gender studies curriculum summed up in less than 6 words.
Well why stop there? “People haven’t always gotten along.” There we go, that’s history wrapped up. “Some tiny living things joined up to be one big living thing.” Ok, that takes care of biology. Boy, leaving out the massive amounts of information you need to be competent on a topic really helps you speed through stuff, doesn’t it?
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@Dustcan  
I don’t think somebody who has clear mind will agree they do violence just occasionally. Antifa has got fancy slogan to attract some ppl, but this oganization is based on violent doctrine which the same promble nazi used to have in last century and people won’t unsee its ulterior motives in not very long period.
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@AaronMk
Oh yeah, that post. “Accidents happen” and “they’re insured” aren’t acceptable excuses to me unless stand-your-ground is an acceptable excuse to you.
 
I feel like you read only the beginning, concluded that was all, and stopped. Really at the end of the day: in a big crowd situation of intense moods anything can and will happen and within AntiFa itself there are people who go about to keep things from escalating too far. But add thousands to it and if there’s too little and of the situation changes beyond anyone’s control just through simple crowd dynamics then that itself can’t stop it.
 
At the end stand-your-ground is a false equivelance situation since it’s taking any of the particular unique properties into account between single actors and a mass of them in competition.
 
It would be closer to compare it to a soccer or sports riot, which everyone seems to care less about. Which whether in celebration or anger can still result in smashed windows and torched garbage cans.
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@Violet Rose in The Rain  
Ah yes, I forgot my real employment is “fansite mod” and that this isn’t just something I do in my spare time.
 
Now this is the part where you accuse me of virtue signalling or being a “brain-dead regressive.”
When have I ever used those terms and why would I in the first place?
 
As for sources, no, I guess not really. Anecdotal from my time in two different unis, knowing people that took similar courses, and people still in academia (learning or teaching), but nothing printed by anyone of note. But I’ll trust my anecdotes and experiences over a university claiming the courses they offer (and get paid by per head) are totally useful and awesome; I’ve gone through the system(s), I’ve experienced the bullshit. And no, it’s not just gender studies or humanities or the like, plenty of “STEM” degrees are sold to students as being amazing and useful and guaranteed jobs, and they’re actually useless or actual demand is absurdly low with almost all graduates making no use of their degree at all.
 
You do seem p.upset about all this, though.
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@Dustcan
I don’t think somebody who has clear mind will agree they do violence just occasionally. Antifa has got fancy slogan to attract some ppl, but this oganization is based on violent doctrine which the same promble nazi used to have in last century and people won’t unsee its ulterior motives in not very long period.
 
Please tell us more about those “ulterior motives” and how they compare to purging society from its “undesirables” and establishing a fascist ethnostate, which are the outright motives of those they fight.
 
@DeathCloud  
Nazis slaughtered millions and plunged Europe into the bloodiest war in human history.
Unlike whoever antifa targets
 
Who wouldn’t be averse to do the same all over again if they believed they had a better chance to get away with it than their role models, would they?
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The only reason they have to pull that bullshit is because of people who think a university education only has value as a job training program. A lot of the stuff I learned in my classes has no practical bearing on a programming career, but it’s still fascinating material in its own right that spurred a lifelong interest in the mathematical and historical foundations of computer science as a field. There’s a part of me that wants to geek out on this very site about the lambda calculus and combinatory logic, the way people geek out about Star Wars or anime.
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only has value as a job training program
I mean, that seems pretty understandable in the US at least, given the absurd costs and the absurd societal pressure on getting the best job as fast as possible or languish on minumum wage forevermore.
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I can’t believe there are people who think Trump is a great businessman. It’s probably because of the Apprentice.
 
People who watch reality TV are stupid.
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He’s rich, so he must be good at money right?
 
…well until you see how he got his wealth (Daddy’s money who he practically swindled out of his siblings) and how his businesses usually go.
 
Well he’s president, so he must have done something right?
 
…until you realize who his opponent was.
 
Well Fox News sings his praises, so he must be someone praiseworthy right?
 
…until you realize just the kind of people Fox News thinks are praiseworthy.
 
The list goes on. On the surface Trump is in a position that carries the expectation of success. Then you peel back the veil and realize the reality of the system.
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