Don't blame me, I voted for the other guy. (Politics General)

I’m not going to go out and find examples for you. This stuff have been all over the news in the past year or so, and social justice and feminism has been slowly poisoning academia.

Who cares about white nationalists? I don’t know. Maybe you should ask the Parkland shooting survivors, Davis’ family, or Heyers’ family if they care about the rise of white nationalism. Their family members being murdered must have had something to do with the rise of fascism in America.

Black lives matter is a domestic terrorist organization, it fits every single criteria required for that definition.

@kylebiddle

I’m not going to go out and find examples for you. This stuff have been all over the news in the past year or so, and social justice and feminism has been slowly poisoning academia.

Okay, so you’ve established yourself to be an anti-intellectual.

Enjoy your inexorable descent to the Right.

@kylebiddle

What have I said are you disputing? You can demand evidence all you want but I’m not going to be able to show you if you guys won’t even tell me what you’re even disputing.

We are disputing your claims on BLM being a terrorist org

Black lives matter is a domestic terrorist organization, it fits every single criteria required for that definition.

Wrong.

social justice being immediately “toxic”

It is.

No, it’s not.

structural racism not being a problem

Structural racism is a nonsense term.

It does make sense, it’s also called institutional racism.

I could make more elaborate rebuttals, but you don’t deserve more effort than this.

@kylebiddle

Black lives matter is a domestic terrorist organization, it fits every single criteria required for that definition.

I’ll reiterate: they do not have terror as a political intention. They do not have terrorist training. They have no command structure.

Ahem, just because you claim it’s evidence does not mean that it is evidence. You need charts, you need examples, eye witness testimonies, you know stuff to prove that what you’re saying is right. You can’t just say something and say it’s factually correct.

Also…did you seriously ask us to go find examples on YouTube?

@BadgingBadger

@kylebiddle

What have I said are you disputing? You can demand evidence all you want but I’m not going to be able to show you if you guys won’t even tell me what you’re even disputing.

We are disputing your claims on BLM being a terrorist org

Black lives matter is a domestic terrorist organization, it fits every single criteria required for that definition.

Wrong.

social justice being immediately “toxic”

It is.

No, it’s not.

structural racism not being a problem

Structural racism is a nonsense term.

It does make sense, it’s also called institutional racism.

I could make more elaborate rebuttals, but you don’t deserve more effort than this.

You linked a wikipedia article and an opinion piece from Huffpo, those are not evidence. At best the wikipedia page describes what social justice is suppose to be in theory but not what it is in practice.

And I’ve already explained why the system isn’t racist.

I am talking about social justice in practice, not what the definition says. And just because you choose to not label blm as a terrorist organization doesn’t mean it isn’t one. See the videos above if you want real evidence and not wikipedia articles and opinion pieces.

THIS is the kind of stuff i’m talking about when talking about social justice, do you now see the pitfalls of using terms like social justice and feminism without explaining what you mean by them because their definitions and practices are at odd with one another?

I mean it just goes on and on am I the only person watching videos like this? I thought everybody knew about this stuff.

You linked a wikipedia article and an opinion piece from Huffpo, those are not evidence.

THIS is the kind of stuff i’m talking about when talking about social justice, do you now see the pitfalls of using terms like social justice and feminism without explaining what you mean by them

@kylebiddle

I mean it just goes on and on am I the only person watching videos like this? I thought everybody knew about this stuff.

We do know about the occasional, whiney extremist. The problem comes when these incidents are collectively presented as a statistic, despite the fact that statistics provide different answers and arguments.

@BadgingBadger

@kylebiddle

Black lives matter is a domestic terrorist organization, it fits every single criteria required for that definition.

I’ll reiterate: they do not have terror as a political intention. They do not have terrorist training. They have no command structure.

That does not mean they are not a domestic terrorist organization. They terrorize people, they have a political reason for doing so, ergo they are terrorists.

Ahem, just because you claim it’s evidence does not mean that it is evidence. You need charts, you need examples, eye witness testimonies, you know stuff to prove that what you’re saying is right. You can’t just say something and say it’s factually correct.

Also…did you seriously ask us to go find examples on YouTube?

This stuff should be fairly obvious to anyone who pays attention to the news. Both the mainstream media, and yes, youtube.

So you want me to find one example of social justice and feminism being toxic, poisoning academia, and blm terrorism?

I can think of many, many examples. There was that time BLM terrorised a library by shouting black lives matter and harassing students, there was that airport blocking thing, them calling for the death of cops, riots, need more examples than that? All the footage is out there.

Social justice being a problem for academia is well known, the first example that comes to mind is this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y69tkCbeC5o there’s one, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1i80qaETtw8 starting to see the problem yet? Want another example? Here you go: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWnOes3wQiM. Feminism? https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/rambling-reporter/rose-mcgowan-calls-x-men-898538 there’s a shitload of things like this BLM terrorism: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ts6bk6J5C20 black lives matter riots https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3Q6eTWiyzk more social justice garbage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzA4dCT4X0I

I mean it just goes on and on am I the only person watching videos like this? I thought everybody knew about this stuff.

As for the justice system being racist, that’s just nonsense. Black people commit crimes at a higher rate than everyone else per capita and it’s not even close, so naturally they have more encounters with the police, they get combative, they run, they reach for weapon, they don’t do what their told and of course some of them die because they don’t. So, yes, if you commit crimes over and over your punishments are going to get worse and worse. This is just how our justice system works, just because blacks are in there more often doesn’t mean it’s racist, it’s just how it turned out, the result had to be SOMETHING.

And we can sit here and argue all day about what leads to crime and upbringing but at the end of the day they committed the crime so they are punished just like everyone else.

It’s the ideology that is the core problem, not just the extremists

@kylebiddle

You linked a wikipedia article and an opinion piece from Huffpo, those are not evidence.

The wikipedia article makes reference to official definitions (such as the UN human rights wing), and the HuffPo opinion piece offers a competent argument.

THIS is the kind of stuff i’m talking about when talking about social justice, do you now see the pitfalls of using terms like social justice and feminism without explaining what you mean by them

We are explaining what we mean by our terms. It is you who don’t want to listen, or just can’t.

Right now, all you’ve done is post YouTube videos where proto-redpilled fascists sit at the computer and yap about “muh politics” for thirty minutes. I’m not impressed at all.

the main issue you want to focus on is the few crazy people who scream on campuses and have no political power, not to mention being the internet’s favourite punching bag for years.

Says a lot about you.

@kylebiddle

It’s the ideology that is the core problem, not just the extremists

It’s the numbers. The statistics.
While ideology can influence some people to do or say despicable things, we must always keep the numbers in mind before making an argument about an ideology being structurally flawed. And the numbers do not corroborate with the claim that social justice is toxic.

@Violet Rose in The Rain
Right now, all you’ve done is post YouTube videos where proto-redpilled fascists sit at the computer and yap about “muh politics” for thirty minutes. I’m not impressed at all.[/quote]
The purpose of those videos is to demonstrate examples of what I’m talking about. You wanted evidence, you got it, and now you complain about it, which is exactly why I didn’t want to bother providing examples in the first place.

the main issue you want to focus on is the few crazy people who scream on campuses and have no political power, not to mention being the internet’s favourite punching bag for years.

Says a lot about you.

Like what exactly?

If your ideology is creating violent extremists, what does that say about your ideology?

@kylebiddle
When the evidence you give is circumstancial at best, expect it to be attacked.