Don't blame me, I voted for the other guy. (Politics General)

@HeadlessHorselessHorseman  
Personally, I’m not completely sure. Policy is no substitute for cultural attitudes. At most, I would ignore the calls to legalize drugs and prostitution until more studies can be done on the former and until autonimous androids can be developed for the latter. Culturally, sex has to go back in pandora’s box. This doesn’t mean people should feel ashamed of sex or their own preferences. I simply mean that sex, and pleasure as a whole need to take up less of a seat of prominence within our socitey at large.

@Yoga is boring  
Okay, that makes a little more sense. Personally, I’m not a huge fan of sex being seen as a matter of commerce rather than intimacy either, but I wouldn’t necessarily be against legalizing prostitution, and I despise the “punish the buyer but not the seller” feminist approach. Same thing with drugs. I can’t say I like them, but I can’t say I support the war on them either.

@Shirani  
The problem with Human Rights is that it assumes that humans need to protect themselves from each other forever  
It dehumanizes people
 
You do realise that human rights have been ruthlessly critiqued by Nietzsche himself, Jordan Peterson’s husbando ?

@Commune  

 
How?

The west is destroying itself and for what? just because our nations histories are bad? We as the west should NOT commit suicide just because of what happened in the past. But ANTIFA wont hear of it, and neither will the far left.

@Shirani  

 
The quest to find szechuan sauce obviously.

@HeadlessHorselessHorseman  
A human right is protected by ensuring there is a punishment for those who violate it, the offenders, for which there is a punisher, so it assumes there will always be people who play the role of the punisher, but this is fallacious because, while a human right is asserted to be an innate ability and the punishment is asserted to be guaranteed for all offenses, the punisher is a role that can be filled or not, negating the assumption the punishment is guaranteed for all offenses, because the role depends upon a finite number of people rather than all people due to the role of the offender whose existence ensures not all people can be the punisher, so human rights falsely assert humans are to protect each other indefinitely.

@Fluttershy Studios  
I don’t follow. Human rights laws (and laws in general) don’t assume anything forever. If there came a time where no one violated them, they could cease to exist. “As long as necessary” is not “forever”.

For those who wonder why I have such a hateboner for Islam this is WHY! As a SIKH explains what happened to him and his family and a group of girls nearly 60 years prior. WELL before western intervention in the middle east.

@Shirani  
No wonder you drip with acid at the mere mention of Islam. Listening to that schlock isn’t good for you, you know?

@neutralgrey  
The mindset that western civilization is the ultimate evil in the world and yet this SHIT is still tolerated in other parts of the planet….Why. Why the FUCK if they are “peaceful” haven’t they had a reformation yet? Why the fuck is there still crimes against humanity that are not called out but the west blasted on loudspeakers as vile, evil, and racist?

@Shirani  
>acksutally its social issues that causing the downfall of the west  
No
 
It’s economics, pure and simple  
The rate of Surplus Value has been the highest in post WWII history, the debt is rising and rising in the US as it became a consumer economy, all of which led to the 2008 recession  
The West isn’t falling due to cultural decay or whatever bullshit that racist pigeon is talking about but rather the western hegemony over the world and their reliance on Neoliberal policies of fiancialisation
 
The reason why immigrants are taking all those jobs ? Because they are cheap. Their Labour power costs less than others and so they bring down wages and increase the demand for migrant workers

@Shirani  
Because resources that’s why. Why else would we be buddy buddy with a brutal theocracy like Saudi Arabia and look the other way when they commit crimes against humanity. Afghanistan is pretty fucked up to apparently. Yet what do these two countries have in common? They have resources our country wants. The Saudis got oil and Afghanistan has got mineral wealth, we rub shoulders with vile people for business reasons. It’s always been like that, like how the west allied itself with the Soviet Union during WW2.

@Shirani  
Also, Commune is somewhat right about the decay of the West. I can’t speak for all of the west but I’m confident enough to speak out the US. Our country isn’t falling apart because of social issues, if anything these social issues are merely the result of a bigger problem our country faces, which are our economic problems.

@neutralgrey  
Social issues are born from economic issues

@Commune  
What he said

@HeadlessHorselessHorseman  
I am referring to human rights and the system of sustaining those rights, not human rights laws, which describe specific rights and punishments; I am referring to all human rights and all their enforcement systems as their simple structures, as their template used throughout time.
 
To restart:
 
A human right is an ability that is believed to be possessed by all. The right to eat, the right to sleep, etc. The concept by itself does not assume humans are to protect each other indefinitely, but once one starts to defend those rights for all, in comes the system of punishers punishing offenders, from which there is a dichotomy that has a finite number of punishers and a finite number of offenders, but all have a human right, so a finite number of humans protect a human right possessed by all humans from another finite number of humans. Thus, the concepts of a human right and its enforcement system protect indefinitely–the template, through its forms as human rights laws, protects indefinitely.

@Yoga is boring  
Freedom of movement isn’t necessarily an universally recognized right, but it sure is gaining ground nowadays. The UN already has offices dealing with the issue.  
Sure, they’re not refugees. However, one could interpret, in a sense, that they’re “economic refugees”. Adds a new twist to the debate, IMO.

@Yoga is boring  
I really, really don’t feel like society’s just like how you described.  
There are, after all, sound justifications for legalizing drugs and taking immigrants in. And i’m afraid the “gratuitous sex culture” you describe is just a development of democracy; its pinnacle, if anything. We’ve already been sufficiently constrained from discussing such issues within society before. Heck, it was all the people who were barred and shamed by such laws before that led the drive for such issues on gratuitous sex to be normalized.  
It isn’t hedonism, it’s materialism. “Productivity” is useless if you don’t have free time to rest and vent your frustrations.  
The USA always talked about being the “land of the free”, and now they’re actually living up to their name.  
I’m afraid such “laws to reduce pleasure and increase productivity” have some sort of example: sharia law within muslim countries. And we already know that they are mostly uncapable of forbidding pleasure on the secretive level.  
I’m afraid what we’re seeing now is an inevitable part of the progress of society. Concealing sex from people gets substantially harder with the progress of technology, and not to mention that people’s perception of democracy also changes.  

 
This goes straight against what you just said about “sex culture”.

Boy, the Southern Poverty Law Center is breaking down.

@LR-Studios  
…According to its opponents.  
Does the SPLC commit mistakes? Sure, it does. But I don’t see it “breaking down” completely any time soon, as the organization still has money and popularity.

FFS, brazilian congress.  
Ex-president Lula gets reported for corruption, and you applaud. And you even delegate Sérgio Moro, the country’s most presitigous (overrated?) judge as of now, to carry the trial.  
President Temer gets reported for corruption, and you vote on archiving the accusation.

@Fluttershy Studios  
“Indefinitely” still isn’t “forever”. And why does there have to be a finite number of offenders and punishers?
 
@BadgingBadger  

 
That may be true, but I think that’s a mistake.

So, I come across the article about a three-alarm fire that happened at the Robert E Lee Elementary School in Tampa Florida.
 
Crew responded to this fire on school grounds on East Columbus Drive just east of North Florida Avenue just before 7PM, luckily no injuries were reported.
 
The fire in question is under investigation.

@LR-Studios  
>Firefighters said there is no indication this is connected to the name of the school. They said the fire is not suspicious.
 
Shit like this happens in the aftermath of a hurricane. Remember that big-ass chemical plant fire from Harvey?
 
>Of the 288 students who go to class at the magnet school, 57 percent are African American.
 
Okay, that’s actually kinda funny.