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@neutralgrey  
“History eraser”.  
Seriously, though, even if a statue is regarded as controversial by the majority of the public, it shouldn’t be destroyed. IMO, it should be given to a museum – i’m sure those townsfolk who disliked the statue’s message would agree with that.
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@BadgingBadger  
That’s where I disagree. It’s a statue. At most it can tell you what a person looked like, but other than that it won’t tell you much. Documents are more important.
 
Now I’m not saying I’m in favor of tearing these statues down, I just don’t care. These statues are on public land, and if the people want these statues to be taken down who am I to disagree? Now it’s a different story if the statue is on private land. Then it’s the owner’s decision and not the people’s
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Still, the pastor’s last quote makes sense to me:  
There’s no way plausible that we would even think that they would erect a Malcolm X statue in Mount Greenwood, Lincoln Park, or any of that. Not that say Malcolm X was a bad guy; they just would not go for it. Native Americans would not even think about putting up a Custer statue, because of the atrocities that he plagued upon Native Americans. And for them to say to us ‘just accept it’ is actually insulting.
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@neutralgrey  
Still, i don’t think it should be destroyed.  
Especially when it’s an impulsor of public interest in a certain figure or event. One passerby could look at the statue and ask himself, “who is that guy?”. Or “what did he do?”.  
Still, i believe a museum is just as good a place for a statue as a park. Maybe better, as placing a statue in a public place can imply certain glory and hubris, which can flare up controversy. A civil war museum, on the other hand, warns people of its implications and context before showing them the statues.
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So it looks like at least three people have been arrested for toppling the statue in Durham, NC. Good - hopefully they don’t get off with just a slap on the wrist.
 
This was particularly egregious since the statue was not a memorial to a slave owner or Confederate general, but simply a war memorial. My parents say there’s actually an old saying in NC that North Carolina was the one state in Confederacy that had the least number of slaves and the most number of soldiers.
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@zerowinger66  
That’s kinda like bragging that your state has the fewest war rapes but the most people willing to round up the women for others, being to dumb or lacking the connections to get a promotion doesn’t make them less traitors, that said destroying the statue was dumb it could have hurt someone,
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Everyone yesterday: “What nonsense for Trump to suggest that removing Confederate statues would lead to people wanting to remove statues of George Washington!”
A Chicago pastor has asked the Emanuel administration to remove the names of two presidents who owned slaves from parks on the South Side, saying the city should not honor slave owners in black communities.
A bronze statue of George Washington on horseback stands at the corner of 51st and King Drive, at the northwest entrance to Washington Park.
Bishop James Dukes, pastor of Liberation Christian Center, said he wants the statue gone, and he wants George Washington’s name removed from the park.
“When I see that, I see a person who fought for the liberties, and I see people that fought for the justice and freedom of white America, because at that moment, we were still chattel slavery, and was three-fifths of humans,” he said. “Some people out here ask me, say ‘Well, you know, he taught his slaves to read.’ That’s almost sad; the equivalent of someone who kidnaps you, that you gave them something to eat.”
Dukes said, even though Washington was the nation’s first president and led the American army in the Revolutionary War, he’s no hero to the black community.
“There’s no way plausible that we would even think that they would erect a Malcolm X statue in Mount Greenwood, Lincoln Park, or any of that. Not that say Malcolm X was a bad guy; they just would not go for it,” he said. “Native Americans would not even think about putting up a Custer statue, because of the atrocities that he plagued upon Native Americans. And for them to say to us ‘just accept it’ is actually insulting.”
 
Let’s see if anything comes of this. If it goes through, then the Law of Merited Impossibility will have struck.
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Remember boys and girls, as the MSM is telling us AntiFA and its allies are noble Americans working to defend our country from Fascism and right the wrongs of racism, and not a bunch of violent, out of control ignorant hooligans and thugs that either get a hard-on from destroying things or are so ideologically tunnel-visioned that they can’t tell friend from foe.
 
Protesters Desecrate Atlanta Peace Statue
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@zerowinger66  
Oh.  
But even then, the mainstream media isn’t uniform. Some conservatives are present, like Telegraph and Fox. And sometimes the mainstream media can get a good point through, as they have more resources for research than the alternative media and can send reliable reporters abroad.  
Still, i believe a balance should be issued between the mainstream and the “lesser” media. If we just abolish the MSM and replace it with the alternatives, we’ll just be creating another mainstream, this time right-leaning. But, if we abolish alternative newspapers, we may risk falling to only one viewpoint.  
Sorry if i went a bit off-board there.
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@BadgingBadger  
…Where did I ever indicate that I thought we should abolish the Mainstream Media news outlets? What does reading the Guardian or not have to do with anything I said?
 
The whole point of that part of the post was a criticism of the majority of mainstream outlet’s apparent partisan groupthink with regards to them treating AntiFa and their allies as some kind of peaceful or just counterprotest group - which is apparently what they think it is since they’ve been autistically screeching about Trump saying “both sides” had bad people in them at Charlottesville.
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