Don't blame me, I voted for the other guy. (Politics General)

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@fobone
I’m just saying I don’t think it’s fair to fire someone over something you don’t know. And like, why speak up now after years?
@Mike
Seriously. Why care if they are powerful men? if it happened nail them to the wall immediately after it happened. Don’t wait years after the fact.
There’s a lot of reasons why they are starting to come to light, most notably because for maybe the first time, people are starting to believe them. I mean you don’t have to take my word for it. Go and look up the statistics for how frequently rape cases get a conviction. It’s ridiculously small, even in cases where they have tons of physical evidence. And when you add in the ordeal these people face having to relive one of the worst moments of their lives, and the common tendency to treat the victims like they somehow did something wrong, or caused it, or wanted it, you begin to see why there’s such a problem. There’s a reason that most experts think a substantial number of rapes go unreported, after all, and all these notable cases have gone unreported because up until very recently these women knew that speaking out would probably only destroy their lives, and not the piece of garbage that assaulted them.
 
Besides, no amount of money is worth the kind of negativity accusations like this bring upon the victims. There are far easier ways to earn a living in this world that don’t get you accused of being a slut by political pundits or your family sent death threats.
 
 
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It’s really sad when people who judge based on word then evidence. I almost feel it’ll regress back to putting more and more rocks on people’s chest until they “confess”.
Well I feel that when multiple women who have never met before reveal what happened to them and all have the same story, and there’s physical evidence involved, and it’s so prevalent that it’s become common knowledge that people are aware of, they’re probably not lying.
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When is Commune’s ban over?
 
I wonder what his thoughts on the whole NN thing is.
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He and cyborg both got into another fight over Roy Moore.
 
Both of their comments got deleted because they violated rule 0, and Commune got a week ban.
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Women now can assault people while crying harassment and get the victim arrested.
 
They can’t. That is not how justice works.  
That practically all the “victims of the #MeToo movement” have not yet been legally arrested is proof of this.  
A lot of people decided wife beating should be punishable, what makes this different? It’s pretty much worse, they ruin lives. Even when found not guilty society just think “He got away with it” Look what happened to the guy mattress girl accused.
 
If a sexual harassment accusation blows up as false, then it is the accuser’s reputation that is ruined, not the accused’s. The guilt that should be directed towards the alleged rapist is transferred to the opportunistic accuser. I fail to see the “he got away” mentality, either, considering all the reluctance people have shown when referring to the #MeToo activists. People who hold opinions similar to you are very common in this day, and that’s maybe why the most articles i have seen of Mattress Girl when making a google search are ones critical towards her: your point about her is moot.  
I also fail to see how getting beaten up, raped, and traumatized is not worse than having a few bad decisions put in your reputation historic. You’re comparing it to wife beating, which is a much more serious problem, keep in mind.
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@BadgingBadger  
No their reputation is still trashed even when they are declared innocent. It doesn’t matter that they were declared innocent because that false allegation will follow them for the rest of their lives because they are men.
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So, industrial metal juggernaut Ministry released a music video for their song ‘Antifa’ and it’s causing all sorts of butthurt
 
The song itself is honestly pretty mediocre and feels like it’s trying too hard, but I gave the video a like anyway because I appreciate the amount of salt it’s generating.
 
They’re upcoming album “AmeriKKKant” was likey made for the sole purpose of trolling the alt-right. Hell, there’s even a track on there called “tv5/4Chan”, couldn’t make this shit up. Trolling the trolls, good on you Al Jourgensen.
 
Sepultura, Skyclad, and Arch Enemy did left leaning metal better though.
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@Shirani  
Exactly. Even if the alleged harasser is proven innocent, his or her reputation is completely ruined. Instead of thinking “I guess he’s not a rapist.”, people would instead think “He hasn’t be proven yet.”.
 
This is a toxic culture of ours, to assume the answers without any evidence, only to ignore said evidence once it is shown. I don’t know how society grew up to be this but honestly, it has got to stop.
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@Hypnosryan  
That honestly looks like something a high-school teenager put up during his emo phase.
 
Though, the plan is really obvious. They’re trying to get attention for some reason. They managed to get attention, alright. But whatever that reason is, it will affect how the entire attempt is seen.
 
If their reason was to troll, they kinda suck at it. If their reason was to rebel, it did something I guess. If their reason was trying to appeal to one side as a way to sell more, they tried.
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@HJSDGCE  
Ministry’s older stuff is much, much better than this, they’ve been around since the early 80’s and peeked in the late 80’s and early 90’s. They actually have some albums/songs that are really good.
 
I agree with you on it being too try-hard and juvenile, I think they should have made a song with a left leaning political message that was actually good rather than this low effort troll attempt.
 
Metal is a pretty diverse genre regarding politics, a lot of both right leaning and left leaning bands. There are some bands who’s politics I disagree with but I still listen to them because I like the sound they have.
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Well Fox has finally taken a position on NN. Surprise surprise, they support the Free Market argument and framed the dislike over the removal as a Left propaganda issue.
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