Don't blame me, I voted for the other guy. (Politics General)

@LeoNero  
Technically he didn’t start the war. And his Vice President was more warmongering than him.

@LeoNero  
The more important thing is that the republicans seems to be trying to erode trump’s base more so they can actively oppose him without risking election problems, they know he’s a screw up on a scale never before seen, and that if the base keeps leaning into people like him they won’t be just a 45% at best party anymore and may very well cause the two party system to effectively become 1, especially if they can’t manage those tax breaks for their doners, on top of him ruining their reputation at home and abroad,

@Commune  
People still think china is socialist?
 
@LeoNero  
Bush and the Republican party as a whole can eat a dick for all I care. Trump actually isn’t any different than the rest of the Republican party, just dumber and more loud mouthed.

@Cyborg_pony  

I’d trust them more than some supposedly “fair and balanced” news sources.
 
I mean, let’s be honest, no media source has even been free from the occasional controversy. The New York Times is no exception, and has on occasion been called out for some things it has published. But what also has to be taken into consideration is that it has remained a successful institution in spite of this because of its long standing reputation for quality reporting. Yale University even considers them to be among the few relatively trustworthy newspapers, going so far as to state:  

And while it’s true the paper is no longer held in as high regard by the general public as they were a number of years ago, that has far more to do with the decline in trust all U.S. media outlets have endured than anything related to their actual work. You have to bear in mind, we’re living in a time where the internet can provide divisive news instantly to our inboxes, filters can block out any uncomfortable truth a person might not want to hear, and people have (in general) moved away from fact and towards information that confirms something they already believe. I think you’d be hard pressed to find a newspaper that wasn’t struggling to find a sturdy spot to stand when surrounded by that sort of quagmire.
 

 
@Thanotos Omega  

That’s another thing I’m not looking forward to. The last bit of information I heard on that was that the Republicans were once again writing it behind closed doors both as a way of keeping people from learning details and so that they could rush it through the voting process, much as they tried to do with their healthcare repeals.
 
But hey, what could go wrong with pushing through a system that mainly rewards the wealthy, depends on highly unlikely to impossible levels of corporate growth, and is built on economic ideas that were already been demonstrated not to work several decades ago? You’d have to be some kind of crazy person to want to slow that down long enough to discuss it.

@Hypnosryan  
China’s current policies are a leftover from Maoism and the communist party picks and chooses the communist ideals it wants to follow. It doesn’t neatly fit into any previously known political model, which is why calling it strictly socialist, communist or state capitalist is a categorically distortive description.
 
Its still more resembles the old USSR than a free market, constitutional republic, except for Hong Kong, which is one of the most economically prosperous cities in China. Coincidentally.

@Turkeynomster  
No, it’s a fucking Capitalist hellhole  
It bends over for MNCs all the time
 
Also, just because the state controls stuff, doesn’t mean it is socialist
 
@Hypnosryan  
China never was Socialist as it never got rid of Commodity Production, but there is at least something to be said of that it tried to progress towards socialism under Mao  
Nowadays, the CCP bends over for Cold hard cash any day of the week

@Commune  
I honestly don’t know what to say at this point and I’ve grown tired of trying to follow the cobbled logic that socialism or communism expects the world to suddenly adopt. If it was so simple, there wouldn’t be over a hundred different schools of thought surrounding its central premise. Political theories always diverge from one another in some ways in practice, detail, people and interpretation, major or minor. I can accept that China fits the most broadest of ideologically forced definitions of capitalism, but it doesn’t have a free market, free speech and it doesn’t have human rights like some other capitalist nations. If you are going to say China is a capitalist hellhole, at least acknowledge how some capitalist nations are different from one another in other ways.

@Turkeynomster  
Indeed, Capitalist Nations vary drastically  
But they are still share the same mode of production

@Commune  
At least that point is in agreement. I won’t continue the topic any further. It’s for the best.

Quinton Tarantino admits he knew enough about Weinstein that he should have refused to work with him and is calling out other men in hollywood to also come forward and admit this failing,

@Thanotos Omega  
They were probably trying to pick fights with them anyways.
 
So it was probably in self-defense.

@Cyborg_pony  
You didn’t read the article, did you?

@MethidMan  
I tried to, but the adds made it clog up and freed, plus these articles like to use half-truths anyways so I never trust a single article on anything. So until there’s more stories, details and if possible video evidence I don’t believe anything.
 
And this is all their fault for lying and praising those who were at fault for causing violence and blamed everyone but them. If they had been more honest and covered stories with objectivism, then maybe I wouldn’t have such distrust.
 
They say a broken clock is right twice and day and all that, but let’s not forget the 22 other times it’s wrong.

@Cyborg_pony  

Well from the way the linked article describes it, no, that’s not what happened. The white supremacists instigated the encounter, and upped the ante to attempted murder when they drew a response. So if the sequence of events is correct, and I have no reason to doubt that it is, then the situation is entirely their fault.

@Thanotos Omega  
At least no one was killed.
 
But one thing I don’t get is, why do they keep calling themselves white nationalists? Who are they fooling? We all know they’re basically Neo-Nazis, just without the name.

@neutralgrey  
Because PR,

@neutralgrey  
Maybe someone figured out you can cast a much wider net with that term and crucify more people.
 
And anything that isn’t “Nazi” is going to sound less hyperbolic, so its also covering their asses on that front.

@PonyPon  
When talking about people who literally yell “Hail Hitler”, I’d hardly consider the term hyperbolic.

@Cyborg_pony  
just keep those fingers in your ears pal.

@angrybrony  
Don’t worry about him, he’s very good at it.

@Cyborg_pony  
Are you kidding me? It is so obvious that neo-nazi gunman was looking to provoke a confrontation and a excuse to kill.  
Jesus Christ, vehicular homicide and then guns and still the neo-nazi in America gets the benefit of the doubt nowadays.

@neutralgrey  

 
Is the term “Nazi” still a form of negative labeling? IS that term even still relevant?
 
Nazi culture is weird.

@Thanotos Omega
 
@PonyPon  
Eh true, but they could have picked a better name than White Nationalist
 
@HJSDGCE  
I mainly just use the term Neo-Nazi to refer to people who idolize the Nazi Party, their ideals, and key members like Hitler and his cronies.
 
But to change the topic, what do we call people who don’t idolize the Nazi Party but like the uniforms and guns used by the Germans in WW2?