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Have we ever had an Grass type Elite Four member before?
After all, we did have a Bug E4 in G4.
Also, Poison seems to be an underspecialized type.
 
We’ve never had a Poison-type legendary, of this I’m pretty sure – it’s the only type not to be represented among the legendary Pokemon.
 
Well, at least it got a boost in Gen V when it was given resistance against and effectiveness against Fairy. It definitely needed the buff.
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@fobone  
Problem is that the Ultra Beasts might not actully be legendaries at all.  
What, do you think it’s spitting hairs to have legendary and mythical?  
Honestly I think that “sublegends” thing was just made up or drawing a concision based on what little was knew at the time.
fobone

@Prof.NightJack  
For Ultra Beasts, you have a point. From an in-universe point of view since you can argue about them not being Pokemon at all.
 
But for your standard legendary and/or mythical, why go to the trouble to divide them? There’s little if any difference between them and in the end just comes off as superfluous
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The thing is that mythical are ones that, other the very rare cases, cannot be obtained during normal gameplay.  
This is a clear difference between them and legendary.  
To say a basic fact is superfluous is to show some ignorance.
fobone

@Prof.NightJack  
…Except it is, doesn’t really matter if they’re obtainable via download or gameplay.
 
Deoxys was originally a download only Pokemon before ORAS where it was obtainable in-game.
fobone

@Prof.NightJack  
I know what I said. And it is superfluous, you don’t need to create different categories for Pokemon when the ones we have already are just fine.
 
It’d be one thing if this were a fan-term but this is something GF themselves are pushing
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@fobone  
“you don’t need to create different categories for Pokemon when the ones we have already are just fine.”
 
That’s just it, we(outside of Japan) actully messed up and it was ALREADY mythical and legendary.  
The ones we “already had” actully where wrong.  
The two groups of mythical and legendary where actully there from the start, it’s not somthing GameFreak just started to push, it’s something the translations started to get right.
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Sublegendaries can participate in the ingame battle facilities like the Battle Frontier, Battle Subway, Battle Tree, etc. while legendaries are banned from those facilities.
 
For example, you can take a Pheromosa, Tapu Koko, or Suicune to the Battle Tree but you can’t take Mew, Rayquaza, or Giratina there.
 
Those same rules usually tend to apply to the official VGC tournaments as well minus some rare cases like the 2010 and 2016 tournaments.
 
As for the mythical thing, Prof.NightJack’s right. Mythical Pokemon are just a name for Legendaries that were originally obtained through events. That being said, Mythical Pokemon were on the Legendary list that I mentioned earlier (which makes sense because they are banned from the ingame battle facilities and the VGC tournaments).
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