The great GamerGate discussion. (Stuff and things)

The Frowning Pony

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Oh no, a robot doesn’t have a gender, what is the world coming to?!
 
Also bans for being a dick on official forums has always been a thing; at least they have the foresight to know some people will be dicks about this intentionally.
The Frowning Pony

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@Penguin Lagann  
Dude come on, people are treating this sort of stuff like it’s the long knives banging on people’s doors. Every damn time. It’d be comical if it hadn’t been going on for four years.
 
Robots being genderless, and being treated as such, has been a thing for decades. The studio is just smart enough to know people will absolutely be asses about it just to be edgy or ~logical~ or just plain want to shit on others and make clear they should keep it off their official forums.
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@The Frowning Pony  
I don’t think calling a robot “he” is any way “being a dick”. Honestly, it shouldn’t even be an issue at all.
 
It’s a robot. A fictional one at that. If people get offended by that, I don’t ever want to meet these people.
The Frowning Pony

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@Scrabbleman  
There’s a difference between people that’ll do it without thinking about it, which will just happen, and people that will make it a point to do it. Surely you know that some people will make it a point to use “he” just to “own the libs”, right? People will make it a little ~battleground of ideas~. On a forum about a game.
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@The Frowning Pony  
Does it matter?
 
Give me a goddamn good reason why it matters. Because I really don’t care if people want to “own the libs” or some other asinine bullshit. Let people be stupid on their own terms. It’s not my responsibility to give a shit.
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@The Frowning Pony  
It’s my responsibility to call people out when they start doing stupid shit. This is one of them.
 
There’s a next-level retarded for those who get offended about a robot’s gender. A next-level retarded for those who use it to go apeshit. My job is to bring them into the light and slap them.
The Frowning Pony

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@Scrabbleman  
Jesus Christ.
 
Nobody cares about the robot’s gender. What people do care about is that they’ll use the “discussion” about the robot’s gender or lack thereof to mock real people.
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Looking For My Doctor
@PonyPon  
Excuse me for asking, I haven’t been following the conversation here, but I am having trouble parsing your sentence.
 
Care about what? Which rules? If you mean “I’d be fine if it weren’t so against the rules not to care”, then that doesn’t make any sense, because it’s not against the rules to not care. So … I don’t know what you mean.
 
Can you please expand on what you are saying?
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According to the aforementioned moderator, the rules imposed by the devs on the forum also cover racist, sexist, homophobic and transphobic behavior. This should not surprise anyone, as this is common practice on many other Internet websites. However, the greatest commotion was caused by the misinterpreted information about bans for users who referred to FL4K as “he.” While the intentional use of an inappropriate pronoun will actually lead to the blocking of the account, random instances will not result in a ban at all.
 
Literally in the article linked. The bolded part was bolded in the article too. Basically saying those that go out of their way to make a big deal about it by repeatedly throwing a shitfit about a robot not being a guy are the ones who would face a ban.
 
People should probably read more than headlines before they get upset.
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Even the Brutal Doom Dev is pissed at 3DRealms
 
When a modder is telling you, you fucked up. You FUCKED UP!
 
People are tired of Dev’s catering to those that don’t buy the product, so they will do everything to not support that practice.
 
Dev’s need to lean to not do this, and as consumers, this is our only power. Supporting terrible practices that censor the game for virtue signaling helps and solves nothing.
The Frowning Pony

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When a modder is telling you, you fucked up. You FUCKED UP!
 
???
 
Why would the opinion of the maker of a free mod for a game carry special weight in relation to a completely different game? Serious question, because I’m struggling to then see how a modder for Skyrim would have “privileged status” when opining over things concerning the next Need for Speed game…
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Lingering Wyvern
@Derpy Whooves  
The uh, robot BL3 thing.
 
On one hand, it makes sense, because it’s a damn robot, incapable of natural reproduction.
 
On the other hand, i hardly think deciding to call it a he or she in passing should be deemed punishable.
 
Just responding to the general topic of the thread right now.
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Looking For My Doctor
@PonyPon  
Oh, ok - thank you :)
 
I find that people only care if I’m a male or a female when they want to have sex with me, or dominate me somehow in business or something like that. So I assume it’s the same thing - it’s important to some people to know whether they can have sex with the robot or not, and not knowing screws with their interactions.
 
If the robot has no sex, then that breaks the social rules, and people have to treat it in ways that are independent of “penis or pussy” rules.
 
And that seems to really piss some people off. So I’m guessing it’s something like that for some portion of the outrage.
 
I mean, same thing happened with Holly from Red Dwarf when the computer had a sex change.
 
full
 
People lost their shit.
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Looking For My Doctor
@Derpy Whooves
… On the other hand, i hardly think deciding to call it a he or she in passing should be deemed punishable. …
 
Huh. Thanks to Selaphiel’s handy links, just calling the robot “he” in passing as you suggest won’t be a problem.
 
On the other hand, “deliberately misgendering” people on the forums will get you a time out. As will any racist, sexist, homophobic, or transphobic rants.
 
This just seems to be a part of the company trying to keep up with UK’s “protected characteristics” stuff.
 
So, calling it a “he” accidentally isn’t a problem, and a lot of reporters writing about the new character have done exactly that without any repercussions. But don’t be a dink about it.
 
Sounds pretty much like the stuff we’ve got in place for comments on images and forums.
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Looking For My Doctor
@Selaphiel  
Well, it’s a fictional character, and I think that the company’s attempt to extend any kind of protections for real people to fictional characters is a horrific mistake and doomed to produce stupid results.
 
I mean, those fictional characters are fictionally dying. Extending any rights to them just makes the whole “this is a game” stupid.
 
But it seems the only way that anyone would ever actually run afoul of that rule is if they were a complete jerk and intentionally went off on some sort of stupid rant about it.
 
At which point they seem like as much of a special snowflake as everyone else in the room.
 
I mean - who cares if there’s a robot who is a “them” not a “he”. How fragile do you have to be to think that’s something that has to be fought against?
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