The great GamerGate discussion. (Stuff and things)

Cyborg_pony
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@Selaphiel  
NAh, they never actually like having positions of power.
 
That’s why they want and create those “Trust and safety” councils. Where they’re effectively in charge, but don’t have to worry about any ramifications of the actions they want.
 
That’s why Anita wanted to be a “consultant” on Anthem, and look how that turned out
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@AWGear  
Because companies have more money and resources than individual employees  
Do you think lawsuits are based on facts ? No ! The side with more money is going to win one way or another  
But please go ahead and lick the boots of a company which literally admits they do crunch time  
I’m fairly sure crunch is legal, but if you think that means it is moral, then you gamergaters are really stupid  
They are barely any unions in the video game industry and so companies can get away with piss poor treatment of employees  
But I’m just going to be honest, you don’t care about the treatment of employees ? Do you ? You just want tits in ya vidya
 
@Ainz Ooal Gown  
Why is it that China is communist when it suits your narrative but when someone brings up the massive economic progress it has made over the years(it’s the world’s biggest economy currently) suddenly “well it’s not actually communist” shows up ?  
What even is communism to you people ? Because it’s just as meaningless as when you say Orwellian as, having known people in China, it really isn’t even close  
Also this is “Hitler eats sugar” fallacy  
Banning sexually explicit imagery is something a lot of countries have done, but if a company does it, it’s communism ?  
I know you idiots believe in cultural Marxism(after Jordan Peterson got destroyed by Zizek makes it quite hilarious), but you realise that, what SONY is doing is not even close to any political affiliation
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@Commune  
Suprisingly for you, lawsuits are based on who is right and who is wrong. There are gouverment organizations which are ment to protect the workers, and they do a damn fine good job of it. Every company does crunch time. If CDPR does some things that are concidered as inhumane treating of thier workers, they would have been sued. Yet they weren’t. You can blame them for anything. Making boring games. Miliking someone elses idea. Not dealing well with people owning the franchise trademark, but you cannot blame them for something that comes from anonymous source, that noone has decided to take to court.
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There are gouverment organizations which are ment to protect the workers, and they do a damn fine good job of it
 
every company does crunch time
 
Ngl that sounds contradictory  
“Lawsuits are based on who’s right and who’s wrong”  
OJ Simpson, Scientology and every police station in America called  
Also, lawsuits cost money  
And it’s a real likelihood that many can’t afford to do that, especially against a multi million dollar company which can buy entire law firms without losing much of their profits
 
If an anonymous source is corroborated by actual statements by people working there, like maybe take them seriously ?
 
Crunch time is an abhorrent practice and as I linked in a previous article, CPDR admitted they do it, but “”””reluctantly””””  
Again, the video game industry is barely unionized and video game companies take advantage of this  
Also CPDR did take note of the anonymous claims and wrote an letter that basically states that they do use crunch time but it’s good for the soul
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@Commune  
Again. Every company uses crunch time.  
Also, you must remember that you are talking about POLISH courts, POLISH company, and people working in POLAND. Granted we don’t have the fastest justice system, but not everything that applies to US justice system applies here.  
Also, if it was true, it would be here all over the media. They’d run to the ground ANY COMPANY which would be proven to have mistreated thier workers. Doesn’t matter if it’s gaming related or not.
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@AWGear  
“They’d run over any company proven to have mistreat their workers”  
Apple Stock is pretty high currently  
And yes, every company uses crunch time  
That’s the problem  
Crunch is a abusive, useless form of work which simply makes workers on video games risk their lives for balls on a horse  
The fact it is normalized because “everybody does it” shows how bad it is and guess what, CDPR is guilty of their malpractices as well
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@Commune  
Any polish company proven to have mistreat thier workers has been destroyed in public view sooner or later.  
Because they cannot avoid doing it. If everybody else is cheating, you can’t win by playing fair. You have to cheat to stay in the market.
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@AWGear  
Considering fucking teachers have to strike to earn a living wage against the government  
I’m just going to say the polish government probably cares less about video games employees  
And so you admit that CDPR uses crunch time, a policy which has destructive effects towards its workers, but it’s ok because “they won’t be able to make money otherwise !!!”(which is something I really doubt)  
CDPR is a company with millions upon millions of dollars in the bank, expecting them to not work their employees to death should be a standard with no excuses for doing otherwise  
Fuck, even if it was an indie studio knee deep in debt there is still no excuse for using crunch time
AWGear
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The Devil's Advocate
@Commune  
What teachers do not tell is that they are working HALF of the time that normal workers do (18 h per week instead of 40h) and the fact that they also have 2 month vacation every year. For the ammout of work they do, 2000 - 4000 zł (500-1000$) is a preety good paycheck. Not to mentoin the fact that they can take ONE YEAR OFF in thier carrer where they dont have to work and are paid normal salary.  
Why so angry about CDPR doing what other studios do? What makes them worse than EA or Ubisoft?
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@DeathCloud  
Which is really strange, considering how communism revolves around abolishing private ownership.  
I mean, I’m not saying commies are literally too stupid to understand their own ideology, but…
DeathCloud

Agent of Shadows
@Exhumed Legume  
It’s not issue of undertanding but issue of pretending to foxus of bigger problems while actually ignoring them and focusing on redherrings. Or simply being full of shit hypocrites.
Cyborg_pony
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@DeathCloud @Exhumed Legume  
Probably also has something to do with those companies pandering to them a little- just like with Marvel comics, but they don’t actually buy the product so their gesture is only for brownie points.
 
Anyone want to take a bet that EA mentions “He-for-She” again this year?
AWGear
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The Devil's Advocate
Great. There is now a line in MK11 for Shao Khan (Main bad guy of the series, Hitler squared) that goes along the lines of:  
“Let us make Outworld Great Again”  
Get Bent Netherrealm, you Goebbelses of the Gaming World  
:c
AWGear
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@PonyPon  
I think it will still reach hedlines on wendsday. That and “Pro-slavery nazis who were against anti slavery message in Mortal Kombat 11” in reference to Jax’s ending and community backlash aginst it
AWGear
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The Devil's Advocate
Great. There is now a line in MK11 for Shao Khan (Main bad guy of the series, Hitler squared) that goes along the lines of:
“Let us make Outworld Great Again”
Get Bent Netherrealm, you Goebbelses of the Gaming World
:c
 
:P
Cyborg_pony
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@AWGear  
The picture really drives it home though.
 
Seeing how much they claim to hate the guy, they sure love to shoe-horn him into everything.
 
Also think about it; Shao Kahn is now Trump. And in the last game made everyone including a god of lightning his bitch.
 
Did not think they through.
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