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The great GamerGate discussion. (Stuff and things)

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Sadly not, video has been already taken down

https://youtu.be/yfCuQ2YNg2g

this was the link but now it will say that video has been taken down. I managed to watch 3 out of 5 hours of the story mode tough.
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Alright, spoilers incoming tough:
JADE CHAPTER
Kothal Khan (male, from what I remember he was Mayan God or something, so he’d probably be white if we talk about race) is being attacked by an army of Tarkattans (Baraka’s race, who are generaly portrayed in the series as blood thirsty warriors only; quote from MK Wiki: "They are often depicted as unintelligent, bloodthirsty brutes that serve the currently most powerful leader."; to prove that’s the "right description" of them, in this chapter we are running through a cage with skinned human corpses hanging of meat hooks. We also see tarkatan eating human flesh). They have already betrayed him in the past, fighting aginst his rule on the side of Shao Khan (Portrayed in almost every game as a White muscular male, who does nothing besides conquering and killing). During infiltration of Tarkattan’s camp (by Jade, black female and Kothan’s fiance) a fight starts and Kothal and his men are victorious. During that infiltration we had been shown a "female tarkatan" who was clearly scared of Jade. Now, that all of them are captured and Kothal wants to execute them to not allow them for "future betrayl". In that moment, we havea clear scene of that female tarkatan reaching hand to her lover/child (im not sure) in the typical way of "they could almost grab eachother hands". Then we get typical lecture from Jade about them being "women and children". When Kothal doesn’t change his mind, we (as a player) have to fight him as Jade as "it’s the right way". We beat Kothal Khan by which we allow the leader of the Tarkattan army (Shao Khan) to capture both him and Jade.
KITANA CHAPTER
As Kitana (Asian princess, Shao Khan’s adoptive daughter; note: this is the first game when Kitana has clearly "asian appearance". She is from Edenia, and to this date Kitana was portrayed as "white") we are sent on a rescue mission to save both Kothal and Jade. We manage to save Jade (and learn that Kothal is going to be executed in coloseum), then we have to "turn tarkatans to our side". Kitana ofcourse gives a speech about how we should "Fight with eachother, instead of aginst eachother" (saying that to a blood-thirsty army of warriors) and that once they free Kothal, she will make sure that Tarkatans will get to rule the netherrealm alongside him. When they get to the Coloseum, they beat up everyone that is there. We have talk from new character "Kolector" on how "Kitana rejected privelege when she turned away from Shao Khan" and Kitana is fine with that. During that, Shao Khan hugs (yes, hugs) Kothal soo tightly, that he breaks his spine (Wheelchair Fighter confirmed for Kombat Pack 2) crippling him. Kothal tells Jade that he was stupid and that she was right, and she says that his "Hardend heart can be reformed". Then Kitana beats up Shao Khan (killing him I guess, altough it was preety lame for "Mortal Kombat Kill") and goes to Kothal to check on him. He then gives his position as the ruller of Outworld to Kitana and says that she does deserve to be a "better ruler than he was".


This is as much as I remember, some things may not be spot on, but that’s the gist of it.

One thing to add:

At a certain point, young Johny Cage is seen hitting on young Sonya Blade. After his pickup line, everyone around him in the room just stare at him with "are you serious" and then someone else grabs him by the ear and takes him out of the room.

Just tought I’d add that, since it reminds me of that awful Gillete ad about "Toxic Masculinity".
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Honestly being an SJW sounds so milquetoast nowadays
Back then you had to be like some super communist(like Evola but for the far left)
Now you just have to to use some jargon that every film theorist has used and bam, you are an sjw soyboy cuck
Man, SJWs must have really lost their way

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“Ending up like feminist frequency”
Other than having to rely on paypigs, I find nothing wrong with that
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Most of SJW currently do show communist tendencies.
Tough it seems that they care more about being "Politically Correct" than for everyone to have equal distribution of goods.

Feminist Frequency is a channel with over 200 k subs and at most 5 k views per video. It’s also is one of the most universally despised channels on youtube and generally concidered to be a joke. I dont think anyone serious would want to end up like them.
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Most of SJW currently do show communist tendencies

God I wish this was fucking true lmao
At best, they are part of the DSA and have a Bernie Sanders sticker on their laptops

Also feminist frequency has some ok analysis of media which isn’t controversial to anyone even remotely familiar with film studies but because anti-SJW YouTube is filled with people who only get their education through Richard Dawkins books, they obviously get outraged at fairly standard feminist critique
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Sony to censor regulate content for ’the children’

A bigger excuse has never been said.

This comment summed it up best:
So let me get this straight:

-A costly, inefficient "regulatory board" solely designed to inconvenience your developers.
-Inconsistent, unevenly applied rules that strive for an undefined, non-existent, newspeak fallacy of "well-balanced content".
-Rampant xenophobia while simultaneously taking the moral high-ground.
-Unbridled hypocrisy of claiming to care about "the sound growth and development of young people" while prominently featuring increasingly violent games such as Mortal Kombat 11, TLOU2, and Days Gone.
-Rambling about not wanting to "demean women", while butchering the hard work & artistic vision of the women working on any title they deem "problematic".
-Making themselves self-appointed arbiters of what is appropriate for their customers, as opposed to leaving the choice in the hands of the adult customers themselves (or in the case of child players, their parent’s hands).
-Showing outright disrespect for not only the fans who literally pay their salaries, but also the creators who make the games that drew fans to their consoles in the first place.
-Somehow being so incredibly self-righteous & self-unaware that they fail to see that any of this is a terrible idea.

I bet there’s some very happy people at Nintendo HQ right about now.


You know; there’s only one other group that tends to be censorious. So much so, they ban any information to come in or out of what they govern.

What were they again?
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And now Nintendo is working with Tencent, which might fester into the type of stuff on the Switch.

Tencent wants people to have an ID to play games

not to mention that "point system" hogwash that all the SocJus want to implement. They replace an ethereal god for the government, but think they won’t be guilty of sin. :v

Hopefully the president tells them no, and no one on the N.A. branch decides to bend the knee like cowards.

This could also mean that their oppressive regime is weakening and China could be axe’d like the USSR, but if companies are going to bow to what they want and change the product to fit their morality then it’s not going to do much. Ubisoft changed change Rainbow Six Siege to appeal to their master over there and it pissed a bunch of people off.

I don’t think there’s saving Sony. After putting it’s head office in SanFran, PCs5 is going to see the kind of hypocrisy and double standards from companies acting like they know what’s best in stead of the costumers deciding.
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In days like this, when PC culture is taking over gaming industry and with every day more developers are joining on the "GoWokeGoBroke" train, we have to support those developers who publicly are speaking aginst it and do not want to appeal to SJWs (like CD Project RED).
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Using r/jimsterling as a "respectable" source for gaming related news is like saying that Mc Donalds is a respectable source for healthy lifestile related info.

The information about CDPR was made public on a site which allows for anonymous reviews. It’s especially a sketchy site to base your info on since much bigger companies like Ubisoft and EA have much higher recomendations, even if they release more games per year, which in turn would also mean more work for developers.

If those were reviews of veryfied employers, who would provide (at least) thier name, then it could be concidered a "trustworthy" site. Most of the reviews there had the same pros and cons, which leads to belive that they were all made up (as everyone remotly interested in criminology knows, if testimonies match up almost perfectly, they are most likely made up).
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Why would employees risk their employment and a lawsuit ? Crunch is one of the most common and despicable things in video games industries but leave to gamergaters to dismiss it because testimonies corroborate each other lmao
Outraged over like one person who called cuphead racist but not caring when video game employees are being abused
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Then what proof do we have that those are real CDPR employees? Since there is no name written down, it could have been bloody anyone. How could they be sued for saying the truth? If they have proof of what’s going on at the studio, and they only publish the truth, nobody can sue them. It’s illegal to spread misinformation about someone, not facts. And if thier work is so terrible, then what they are risking it? Hell, most of those people are EX-EMPLOYEES. They have nothing to lose, yet they’ll still do it anonymously, which takes all thier credibility away.
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The only people who agree with these kind of actions are those terrified of their worldview being wrong, so stifling of creativity and artistic choice.

There’s still the double standard of extreme violence and sexual content rampant, yet they don’t seem too afraid of kids see that. Shouldn’t they censor all that, or is it they know they won’t get away with just censoring Japanese games?

You know honestly, when you think about it, their worldview is very conservative. To do these censorious actions, especially in very prudish manners.

For the children

Didn’t someone use that very excuse Not too long about in gaming history?
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Developers started to censore games not because they care about the minds of children, but because they did not wanted to piss off leftist media.

Leftist media can create enough of shit-storm to ruin any company. Developers don’t do those changes out of care for the young ones, but out of fear.
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In most cases they just pander to not catch their ire.

Neal Druckman uses it as a shield to hide from his fetishization.

Making the woman ugly and less feminine like Netherealm so they can get away with the brutalization.

Look at DoA, they were only outrage over the women looked as such, blaming it on unrealistic physics, but if you know human anatomy, breasts jiggle.

In sony’s eyes:

Cartoon style women voiced all by adults = BAD
Mo-cap that used have used actual people = GOOD

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