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>>2383451 I see that this was changed from “semi-grimdark” to “safe” by moderators. That doesn’t make sense to me..?
 
@Rainboom Dash  
Even the description reads as “safe” IMO. Something like “explicit source” might apply (except the fanfic link is in the description, not the source, technically) but fimfiction hides explicit content by default so even that’s probably OK.
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@Rainboom Dash  
Description doesn’t count.
 
@Background Pony #4230  
Skulls of dead characters are fine (see Arimaspi in the show). As for implying deliberate murder, while cartoons generally avoid it, it’s all implications and not really what Semi-grimdark is for; Semi-grimdark is more for things you’d see on Star Wars: Clone Wars, like actual killing that, while horrifying, is pretty clean in nature (instant beheadings with no blood etc.)
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Are the crotch bulges in these images tame/understated enough to not be tagged as such, and be rated safe, as is currently the case?
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@Background Pony #4230  
The jeans are definitely drawn so form-fitting that there is no room (hehe) for explaining the bulge’s nature as being merely the crotch area of heavy fabric trousers. IMO the lack of typical folds and bunching in the jeans makes this one irregularity in the figure’s outline quite eyecatching, and hence, “suggestive”.
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@Meanlucario  
According to the description of the cameltoe tag, “questionable” is the lowest acceptable rating.
 
…which I don’t remember seeing before. It also seems at odds with the tag guidelines which puts “Prominent low-detail genital, anus, or nipple outlines in clothing” in “suggestive”.
 
Anyway, there are a few hundred mis-rated images, if true.
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In vein of cameltoe, went and fixed a number of those. Here are some I’m not entirely sure about
 
 
made it “questionable” since the thigh gap and underass make the crotch area quite the focus point, and the cameltoe itself is quite detailed, if not prominent
 
 
made it “suggestive”, the cameltoe is readily visible but quite minimal, and there is little else in the pic to add to the rating
 
 
made it “questionable”, the cameltoe is clear and on display
 
these sporty skirtless Smoulders by Mauroz  
went and removed “cameltoe” on these, on grounds of 1. what little dip in the pubic outline there is, it’s not readily visible unless you zoom in and look for it 2. on >>2186528 a staff member has changed the rating back to “safe” and the other non-sports-panties versions also retain a “safe” rating
 
 
did nothing, this stumps me, the part is just so framed by the belt that it doesn’t necessarily read as a cameltoe, if there were typical “crotch whiskers” folds drawn in on the jeans, I wouldn’t even necessarily see the cameltoe at all. Probably not “safe” though.
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@Background Pony #4230  
Oh dear it seems it’s been repopulated again with any and all cases of covered nipple, visible areola. And for that matter, so has “nipple slip”, which is supposed to be for waldrobe malfunctions (or other unintentional slips of visible nip), but seems to be widely in use for any and all cases of mostly covered breast, visible nipple.
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@Rainboom Dash  
It has a focus on the larger than usual butt, and a pubic mound. Not something I’d show to the guests at my nana’s birthday party without hesitation.
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Little small complaint about people putting tags on images that didn’t have them before. I feel like rape is an overused tag for sex images.  
For examples: an image of Rainbow Dash being forced to lick Scootaloo’s belly: https://derpibooru.org/images/1050886 I don’t think it should be rape as she’s not being forced to lick her you-know-where, so sex tags seem pointless as it’s not cunnilingus. It only tummylingus.  
Example 2: https://derpibooru.org/images/2610727 I don’t see any sort of mind control going on here. Their eyes would be all swirly or something if they were. Also, the fact that some background pony added those tags just seems like they’re trolling or something. Shipping had also been removed by staff without them looking over the context of the image.  
Example 3: https://derpibooru.org/images/2445249 I don’t think all crying during sex images have to be grimdark, as some images have characters crying tears of pleasure, not rape. I don’t think that the artist here attended for this to be rape, as she seems to be enjoying the experience. She doesn’t seem to be broken.  
Example 4: https://derpibooru.org/images/2593974 this one had both shipping and rape, but the shipping tag was removed and all that’s left is the Braejack tag, which implies shipping. It can’t be both shipping and rape at the same time. There are other images that have rape and shipping related tags, which feels weird since shipping =/= rape. This feels more dubious than rape.  
That’s all.
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Hmm, seems a lot piled up relating to cameltoe while I wasn’t checking notifications. I’ll likely be trying to get the ratings guidelines tweaked soon, so I’ll keep all this stuff in mind.
 
@Rainboom Dash  
Suggestive, yes.
 
@Background Pony #4230  
I think so, but I’ll have to check on that.  
@saby  
Generally some level of bulging for clearly-genitals-there is allowed, as with sheaths. I think these aren’t terribly eyecatching over other details, you certainly won’t notice them on a quick glance, so it’s probably on the side of Safe.
 
@Meanlucario  
Hmm, not entirely sure. Cameltoe as of late is all Questionable, but I’ll have to examine this since it’s so minor.  
@Background Pony #4230  
The tag description really needs some tweaking and is kind of messy. That said, there is also some disparity in how the guidelines say to treat genitals and how we actually do, and I’d say we really do need to move cameltoe more towards the way sheaths are treated to be consistent with the guidelines.
 
@saby  
I’ll be checking these with other staff, but it looks to me like your ratings changes are pretty close to what I’d do. The Mauroz Smolder stuff is probably the most iffy case; my gut right now is to group it in with stuff like the Sunset Shimmer above, as “tiny dip meaning Suggestive”, and I’m pretty sure it’s technically cameltoe, but that’s far from a consensus.
 
@Background Pony #4230  
Questionable.
 
@Rainboom Dash  
Looks Safe, yeah.
 
@Rainboom Dash  
The coloration seems to even imply something’s there. Definitely Suggestive.
 
@Background Pony #4230  
It’s probably fine at Questionable (I don’t think Safe is within reason for our current guidelines for obvious balls), but I’ll have to examine further in case it really should be Explicit.
 
@Background Pony #DEE4  
This thread’s for ratings, not more general tagging. It’ll be looked into eventually, of course.
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I don’t get why some of these are safe and some are suggestive https://derpibooru.org/tags/i%27m+not+at+the+beach+this+is+a+bathtub  
Is it because two have the other person saying something? Nah, that doesn’t make sense… Maybe the one that doesn’t have the other person saying something is revealing too low and implies they are nude?  
Why so I try to figure this stuff out on my own.. it’s why I’m posting here
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@Rainboom Dash  
Methinks those who are in the know what this is a reference to feel like “suggestive” is needed. But based on guidelines AFAIK, only the picture’s contents matter for the rating. One “suggestive” entry was tagged “imminent sex”, but there’s nothing above ordinary swimsuit-wearing in that one either.
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@Rainboom Dash  
I would guess it has to do with the origin of the meme: LINK
 
I don’t know if the subtext of the meme should effect the image rating at all, but that should hopefully explain the inconsistent ratings.
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@Rainboom Dash  
Looks like this is because of humans/anthros in swimsuits, as opposed to ponies. People can be a bit overly sensitive on outfits.  
I wouldn’t think it’s because of the origin of the meme, given the simpler explanation.
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@Snicky  
It is a puddle of some indescript white liquid. There is nothing in the image like a specific texture, physics, dialogue, or a shadow of an “application tool” to suggest it has to be jizz and not milk or tinted water or paint. Even the pony in the jar seems more bored than disgusted or embarrassed or titillated. There is only the meme, and a few tags recognising that meme. Tagging it above Safe is like tagging a face-only cropped screenshot showing nothing saucier than a lidded-eyes grin above Safe because you recognise the scene from a porno film.
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