male's face is visible tag? (NSFW)

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what’s the tag for when the man’s face is visible in a picture of intercourse involving a male and his dick?
 
most people like it to be off-screen, because if they only allow themselves to enjoy hot, throbbing, man cock, but not his face, then they’re totally not gay. however, I like it when his face is visible, so you can see who’s fucking you. there doesn’t seem to be a tag to filter those out from the ones where a man is basically an auto-thrusting dildo.
 
should it be a tag for when both of their faces are visible? it almost never happens that the male’s face can be seen, but the female’s is off-screen.
 
it’s not “offscreen character” because the man’s torso and shlong are generally on-screen, and it’s not “disembodied penis” because it’s got a body attached to it, just the head is conveniently out of the frame. what would you call it though? “manface?” “guy face is visible?” “full guy?” I can’t think of a good name for the tag, where the male’s face is visible in some porn.
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Fully-visible Partner, perhaps? Though that sound as if it may apply to both genders, you could probably differentiate well enough using the straight, gay, or lesbian tags well enough.
 
 
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Your post is like the anti-thesis of what I enjoy, and why I advocate so much against badly tagging those images to be the norm.
 
As to answer your actual question, no, no no no, that’s a terrible idea. There are several tags for the searching of faceless males already, you don’t need to hide the visible ones, ie, the ones I wish to see.  
Offscreen Character plus straight, Solo Focus plus Straight, Disembodied Penis plus Straight, hell even the underused Faceless Male plus Straight. Seeing a torso isn’t gonna ruin your day when I gotta go through every day on here seeing dozens of things I don’t care for sexually at all. Ain’t it nice to be catered to all the time?
 
What are you honestly seeing that’s causing you go into gay panic? And can you show me?
 
Edit: OH OH, I got better idea, we implement this and one for females too, whether it makes sense or not, because you know, gotta be fair, huh? I doubt you’d want things to be unfair. :^]
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Your post is like the anti-thesis of what I enjoy, and why I advocate so much against badly tagging those images to be the norm.
ok, no, wait, no.  
you’re a wonderful person, even if you don’t like seeing guy faces. I totally respect that. the reason you want me to tag the guy faces is not because you like guy faces, but because you can filter them out. you should always tag stuff that’s the exception to the norm, even if you hate the pictures being tagged, because it’s easier on everyone that way.
 
that’s the reason I’m not suggesting “faceless male.” because there are so many faceless male pictures, you’ll wear out your fingers typing the tag for all of them. it’s the same reason we don’t have a pony tag on derpibooru, but we do have a human tag.
 
@Napsack  
fully-visible partner sounds promising, though I’m not sure how well it would apply to threesomes or orgies. plus it’s the face/head I care about, not whether the hairs on the tip of her tail got clipped outside the frame. visible faces maybe?
 
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@redweasel  
Again, you’re missing the point entirely (not to mention you don’t even use a filter so I don’t see why this will affect you at all) and you are grossly mistaken if you think this is a common occurrence. Oh, and I forgot about POV too, tho that often contains the DREADED MALE TORSO that you hate so much.
 
Honestly why are you even trying.
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OK slow the fuck down everyone.
 
What’s weird and should be tagged is porn images where a character’s face isn’t shown. Not where a character’s face isn’t.
 
We’re not going to have a “character’s face isn’t intentionally out of frame to avoid killing your boner because you’re afraid of gay thoughts” tag.
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@redweasel  
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Tell you what, how about re-purposing that visible faces tag and turning into offscreen faces/out-of-frame faces, then. Is that good?
 
If not, then maybe something along the lines of partners in-frame? Maybe make it a bit more specific to include what parts of the partners are in frame, though I wouldn’t know how to do that without making the tag a mess.
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I’m gonna vote that we don’t make a tag for this either way. I have no idea which one (face or no face) is more common, but either way you’re going to have to tag a very large percentage of images, and there’s so much ambiguity (is there a different tag for multiple characters offscreen? do we separate it by sex? what if it’s partially offscreen?) that you’ll end up creating half a dozen new tags to cover all the edge cases. If there’s a lot of demand for being able to filter images this way then I guess it’s worth it, but I’m guessing there’s really not.
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Also, do judgments about people’s sexual identity really need to come into play? If you’re drawing oral sex the recipient’s face isn’t going to be in the picture because it wouldn’t fit, not because of some sort of mental backflips that straight men supposedly have to do to look at straight porn.
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Fuzzbutt
@LightningBolt  
oh, uh, actually I do use a filter, but I just disabled it to look at what pictures this tag would apply to. I could also just search for -tag I don't like if I don’t want to add it to my filter.
 
and… I like male torsos? I also like male faces, at least some of them.
 
@The Smiling Pony
 
I think I know what I’m doing wrong here. I thought I was searching for explicit males, but actually I was searching for explicit human males. so actually there are very few “faceless male” pictures here, and I just blanked on the actual query I was using. if you search for explicit human males it’s pretty obvious that posters and/or artists here like male faces just fine, but not human male faces. it’s not the sea of faceless males that I thought it was, sorry. my bad.
 
but uh… we already have a “character’s face isn’t intentionally out of frame to avoid killing your boner because you’re afraid of gay thoughts” tag. it’s called faceless male. I was proposing to tag the opposite of that, since my search query was showing a lot of untagged faceless males. because I was being dumb.
 
@Napsack  
well I like the tag offscreen faces better than faceless male but I have to admit most of the offscreen faces are male. maybe an alias of the latter to the former?
 
@expatriate.  
it doesn’t really matter if there’s a lot of demand, since you don’t have to do any work to tag anything. if someone wants to go tagging offscreen faces, even if there aren’t people clamoring for it, it’s still no skin off your back. of course if people are clamoring for the tag’s removal it’s an issue, but this place is community tagged, so people in the community can tag what they want, without any effort required of the admins, or the other users.
 
also, tags don’t have to have a rigorous, unambiguous meaning. someone can tag offscreen faces if part of the face is there, and someone can remove that tag if they want. and if it turns into a tag war, admins step in and take a poll. (tags that admins set a description for do have an unambiguous meaning, though.)
 
@expatriate.  
go check out oral, straight and then oral, lesbian and oral, gay there is a definite bias against seeing the guy’s face, on the part of straight people. I wouldn’t go so far to say they’re afraid of catching the gay, unless I was doing so in a teasing manner, but the bias is there.
redweasel
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Fuzzbutt
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the reason why is that every time a tag has ambiguous meaning, a huge tag war erupts with people fighting to tag and un-tag the images with a fervid urgency.
 
except when people don’t care. then it’s not a problem at all if a tag is ambiguous. if it ever becomes a problem, you make it un-ambiguous. otherwise, it’s better than nothing.
 
unless you’re seriously saying that having no way to filter out offscreen faces at all is better than an occasional tagging of offscreen faces when a jawline is visible on screen.
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@redweasel  
No, as in, “we don’t need that tag”. You can archive what you want with a combination of other tags, as was pointed out before.
 
The conversation went south very quickly, and now there is not much room for real debate on it, I’m just saying it’s best to drop it and move on. Nothing against you mate.
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