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saby

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@TexasUberAlles
I’m not gonna get into foot fetish stuff bc I’m not that familiar with it, but to put it somewhat simplified, the way “non-baby in diaper” and “diaper fetish” are set up, NBID is expected for all instances of diapers on non babies, and “diaper fetish” is expected for suggestive or above instances of diaper fetishism involving characters of any age.

This is about as basic a distinction as the distinction between “messy diaper” and “diaper fetish”. Just because most NBID and “messy diaper” stuff is made to appeal to diaper fetishists, doesn’t mean diaper fetishists and non diaper fetishists are monoliths when it comes to what they want to see and not want to see. _{Mistagging “diaper fetish” on non-baby characters existing in diapers just because diapers are involved and diaper fetishists are the expected audience means tossing the non-baby with the bathwater when it comes to getting filtered by those users who are fine with non fetish diapers.} I’m NOT sorry.

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TexasUberAlles

@saby
The incidence of non-fetish foot and diaper images is so low it just makes more sense to treat all of them as fetish unless they obviously aren’t; people who are into that will want to see it, and people who aren’t really, really don’t.

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JP

I miss the show so much

Does the wingless spike tag serve any purpose? It’s not a new tag, but it’s mostly used by two users these days.

It’s a useless tag; Spike spent seven and a half seasons and a movie without wings, so “wingless” is considered his default state and winged spike is the different state that requires a tag to identify it even though it was his ultimate condition at the end of the series.

So what’s the final verdict on this? It’s basically maintained by a single person.

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Background Pony #52BA

@JP
I could see it having a use to tag an image that has both a winged and a wingless Spike in it, because you couldn’t find it with “spike, -winged spike”. Then, it becomes an argument whether it should be tagged on every wingless spike because it’s factually correct, or whether it’s tag clutter (I have the same dilemma thinking about eyes open…)

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Background Pony #52BA

For anyone who’s bored, the tag deviantart needs lots of cleanup.

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Blissful690

Violet Frost Fan

@Background Pony #52BA
Why?

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Toastypk

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@Blissful690
A lot of images seem to have the deviantart tag just cause they’re from there.
The image needs to be about deviantart or feature it (or a comment thread or something) to have that tag.

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Kincyr

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there’s a few import tags that might need aliasing:

imported from ponybooru(31) -> ponybooru import(340)
imported from twibooru(40) -> twibooru import(40)

there are a few other variants and misspellings, but those tags are currently unused

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mdashlw

does spoilers for another series apply if the image isn’t a spoiler but the tags are?

to elaborate: (the owl house spoilers)

king clawthorne is tagged titan (looks like someone re-tagged it from demon), but the fact that King is a titan is a spoiler (he’s thought to be a demon in the beginning). Should all King images be tagged spoilers for another series then?

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Ciaran

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友情は魔法だ

@mdashlw
Hmmm … thinking …

I feel like that’s as much a spoiler as Twilight’s ascension to Alicornhood. Yes, it was a spoiler in the show, but he is, in fact, a titan, and tagging him as a demon really feels like it makes the tagging less informative rather than more. With something like Hootie, that’s a demon all the way beginning to end. But it’s pretty clear from the show - even before the ‘big reveal’, that King never really fit in any categorization as ‘demon’. That’s just not what he is.

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Kincyr

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IMHO, crossover characters shouldn’t need species tags (unless of course they’re ponified/eqg-ified or unnamed)

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Markiz93

Proud of being Polish

@Kincyr
No, they should all of them have species tag, no matter what.

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LightningBolt

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@Kincyr
Why would they not?

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rautamiekka

@Kincyr
And how are you supposed to find them, then ?

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Kincyr

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@rautamiekka
with the tags for their name and series of origin, of course

@LightningBolt
I figured that as an MLP-centric booru, tagging the more minor details of crossover elements shouldn’t be a priority

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LightningBolt

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@Kincyr
There’s absolutely no reason to not tag everything well regardless. I don’t tag my art less just because they’re either original characters or ponifieds.

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TexasUberAlles

@Ciaran
But it’s pretty clear from the show - even before the ‘big reveal’
I called it in literally the first episode when he got his Not!Burger King crown that he’d turn out to be the Actual King Of Demons by the end of the series, so it was never exactly a carefully hidden thing.

@Kincyr
An image that includes a Standard Cat gets the cat tag, and any anthro from another series gets anthro; there’s no reason to stop including useful tags just to keep the small horses in a separate corral.

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Ciaran

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友情は魔法だ

@TexasUberAlles
Right? I mean, I wanna be … sensitive? … to people for whom it was a massive reveal. I’m glad they got to enjoy that and I wouldn’t want to spoiler their chances to get that.

But we need to tag a thing a thing.

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Kincyr

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@LightningBolt
okay, tagging things well I can understand.
I guess I was a little blinded by thinking of characters with their species in their names. Woody Woodpecker, Finn the Human, Sonic the Hedgehog… things could get a bit redundant, but then again, those species tags already get a lot of use, even without counting images containing those characters, so no reason not to include them

I’d just like to know at what point does a specific become unnecessary to tag.

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LightningBolt

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@Kincyr
At what point does what become unnecessary to tag?

I mean we had the unspoken rule on this site for years to _not- tag ‘obvious’ things like “no need to tag RD as pegasus or female, everyone knows that hahahaha” and so here I am every day adding female to images people will add 500 tags to but not the most basic barebones things.

I would much rather worry about things being missing versus tagged ‘too much’. Who cares if 50% of hedgehog images are of Sonic, I can just get rid of Sonic from my search if it bugs me. I’d rather it be there than not.

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Kincyr

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@LightningBolt
by “a specific”, I meant anything that’s overly specific to the other franchise. to bring up a post from last year as a possible example:

@Lil’ Pegasus

What’s the point of SpongeBob episode tags? (e.g. “just one bite”, “the two faces of squidward”, etc.) It would make sense on a SpongeBob-themed booru, but this is an MLP-themed booru, so I don’t get the point of it.

the first response of which pointed out that tags for most other series’ episode names get removed (though I’ve also seen episode titles for the Simpsons and Ed Edd n Eddy floating around)
I’m honestly a little surprised that despite the Spongebob title tags (btw, texas currently covers both the episode and the actual state), nobody’s bothered to tag any image containing a character shouting “That’s a penis” with How I Met Your Mother (the meme origin) and Aldrin Justice (the specific episode)

I mean we had the unspoken rule on this site for years to _not- tag ‘obvious’ things like “no need to tag RD as pegasus or female, everyone knows that hahahaha” and so here I am every day adding female to images people will add 500 tags to but not the most basic barebones things.

I’m going to go out on a limb and guess that Rule 63 is the only reason that character tags don’t have implications for gender tags

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LightningBolt

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@Kincyr
Episodes of other franchises are probably a bridge too far, at least not with them being generically named and not clarified if it’s a really big thing. Meme names are more than enough per.

I don’t think that even sans rule 63 would character names ever genders or species/races.

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Wildcard71

@Kincyr
That might be a reason why non-MLP episode titles get to be removed from tags.

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Background Pony #52BA

A tag “spoiler in the tags” exists…barely. (One use, ever.)

Tagging that at the same time as adding “spoilers for another series” might do the job?

Kincyr: to bring up a post from last year as a possible example:

Lil’ Pegasus: What’s the point of SpongeBob episode tags? (e.g. “just one bite”, “the two faces of squidward”, etc.) It would make sense on a SpongeBob-themed booru, but this is an MLP-themed booru, so I don’t get the point of it.

This was my take on the same question when brought up (by you) more recently:

Background Pony #52BA: My impression was that the various Spongebob references/memes didn’t have unique meme names to tag them with, so people were instead specifying what episode the reference is from.

I’m going to go out on a limb and guess that Rule 63 is the only reason that character tags don’t have implications for gender tags

Besides r63, futa etc. etc.

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Kincyr

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@Background Pony #52BA

A tag “spoiler in the tags” exists…barely. (One use, ever.)

Tagging that at the same time as adding “spoilers for another series” might do the job?

I don’t know, that might only work if anyone has spoiler in the tags spoilered, otherwise they might encounter the spoiler in the tags before reaching spoiler in the tags in the taglist. seems as effective as a content warning that lists every specific slur used in a work instead of a general content warning that there are slurs within.

on the other hand, there are non-MLP works that have tags with the spoiler: prefix, and spoiler:the owl house (which is feasibly more likely to be used in custom filters) is currently applied to 120 images

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