General Tag Discussion

@Background Pony #0299  
A lot of that subjective tagging is coming from one individual who will not be doing any tagging on the site for the foreseeable future. Please fix them as you see best.

@saby  
Oh, yeah I think your idea makes more sense than mine.

@Wildcard71  
Implications aren’t retroactive like aliases are. The implication seems to be recent and it’s been manually fixed in the one place it’s showed up so far, so search results are not indicative.

@Brokedownandmadeone  
Size? Maybe if it were hyper. Shape? Not even close. Those are distinct and rounded breasts.
 
If teats covers this, then the tag is not serving its purpose at all.

@Pulse Wave  
The implication shouldn’t even be there, because “best pone” is subjective qualifier that was clearly intended to be not entirely serious in first additions (also use a gallery instead) while “pone” is for images that explicitly spell “pone” out in them, as per description.  
@Damaged  
Those are absolutely not breasts and definitely potentially-badly-drawn (namely, they’d be more distended at that size) teats.

@Damaged  
“teats” covers cases like this. Nothing’s stopping us from establishing a tag with more stringent realism qualifier, such as “reasonable horse udder”.

Is there a way I can rename tags? .-. I wanna change of one of my tags of my fanfic but I don’t know if dat’s possible…

@Takengrin Endmmar: Taken God King of Fear  
Totally. If there isn’t a thread for the subcategory of thing you’re talking about (like a fan-made series or an OC) just report yourself with a reason of “Other” and let us know what the old tag is and what you’d like it changed to.
 
We have a couple of tools for doing what you’re asking, but which way is faster/easer will depend on what kind of tag it is an how many images have that tag.
 
You could also say what you want here, and maybe someone on staff will see it and do it if they are free.

@Derpy Whooves  
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Something I’ve seen come up only rarely before is images/comics that are clearly non-con tagged up as BDSM. Now, I can see the “BDSM scene gone wrong” still being tagged such, but something like the following is really on the nose as the artist goes to great pains to show this as being against her will and lacks either RACK or SSC completely.
 
 
 
 

 
If the BDSM tag is intended for actual rape/non-con situations, could we maybe have it renamed to something else?

Lately I’ve noticed some people have tagged pics of fetishes they don’t like with tags like eww or ewww!! (the latter of which, itself, is redundant and should probably be aliased, merged, deleted, or whatever.)
 
Shouldn’t those tags, instead, be used for stuff like pics of a character looking grossed out or something?
 
I’ve also seen people do the same kind of stuff with tags like gross or disgusting.
 
I dunno, isn’t tagging stuff like this kind of against the spirit of rule 4?

@pixel  
Probably. If I see someone doing that, I usually check the person who added the tags to see if they’re adding them a lot—if they are, I’ll report the user for #2. If not, I’ll usually just remove the tag.
 
Note: Only when the tag is obviously subjectively added. If the image has a character saying “eww”, then it’s valid.

@pixel  
Acting out on content you should be filtering is against the rules as is. Users doing that can be reported.

@pixel  
Very against rule #4 yes. Tags are not for opinions, especially not negative ones.

@Damaged  

 
Okay, I’m familiar with “Safe, Sane, and Consensual” but what does “RACK” stand for?

@radpanic  
Risk Aware Consensual Kink. It allows for a greater range of things to happen, but only if everyone agrees on them in advance and knows all the possible risks. Things like breath-play or knife-play would be considered RACK.

@Damaged
 
Makes sense. Thanks.
 
And I agree with your larger point that the “BDSM” tag ought to match how the real-life BDSM community uses it, not how people outside misinterpret it. Maybe add some tag description to discourage future misuse?

@Damaged  
“bdsm” on the site is a general descriptor of the BDDSSM set of activities, not the community in question and its rules. I think it does not need additional implications of consent as there are already separate tags to denote presence/absence of it, and images actually aligned with the SSC/RACK should be tagged SSC/RACK/“bdsm community” instead.

@Barhandar  
Then the tag should either be renamed more in line with what it is meant to convey, or have a description added to the effect “BDSM doesn’t refer to BDSM, but rather the various acts it portrays.” or such.

I think you’re all overthinking it.

@LightningBolt  
Okay, so what I’m getting at is that there are already tags that cover the physical acts.
 
bondage  
discipline  
domination  
submission  
sadism  
masochism
 
What I’m trying to get at is if bdsm doesn’t mean actual BDSM, it needs to be clarified that it doesn’t.
 
You know what, it’s probably not worth it. I slapped grimdark on these specific ones to denote the non-con aspect. Have a great day/night.

So we’ve got tags for show accurate for art in the FIM style and movie accurate for that style. Would it make sense to have a similar tag for Pony Life?

@Litrojia  
Wouldn’t that also be “show accurate”? We’ll have the same thing when G5 comes out, and making unique “show accurate” tags for each generation might become troublesome.

@Derpy Whooves  
Oh the gnashing of teeth that will be had if Pony Life style “show accurate” gets mixed in with G4 “show accurate”. Since style is separate from content (i.e. G4 accurate doesn’t necessarily feature G4 characters/settings etc.), and MLP:FiM isn’t the only “show” to be accurate for, I’d suggest renaming current “show accurate” to “G4 accurate”, and adopting a series of tags to differentiate with “G3 accurate”, “pony life accurate” etc.

@saby  
We survived the drama of having EQG images tagged “Show Accurate” (although it does still periodically trigger a few fans,) and we also have “(g1 OR g2 OR g3),show accurate” (although, to be fair, no one seems to care about those).
 
And assuming that G5 reuses some of the character names we’re almost certainly going to have to figure out how to differentiate G4 from G5, at which point separating G4 Rarity and G5 Rarity should be as easy as (or no more difficult than) telling the difference between EQG Rarity from Pony Life Rarity is today, so knowing which ‘show’ the ‘show accurate’ tag is referring to should theoretically be as easy as telling the difference between EQG Show Accurate and G4 Show Accurate is in searches and filters today.
 
So I’m just wondering, looking back on this 5 years from now, would we really feel that creating a unique tag for “Pony Life Show Accurate” to differentiate it from “G4 Show Accurate” was really the best solution, or if it would have just created additional layers of generation specific tags that we have to remember how to sort out from each other?