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Can we please do something about "solo" pics with multiple characters?

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If a pic has the “solo” tag, it should never contain more than one character tag. When I search for “pinkie pie, solo” I do not want to see THIS in the results

This happens so goddamn frequently. I swear there’s an example in every single search for a major character and the solo tag. It makes it to where if you want to genuinely get a search with only pinkie pie, you actually have to search for:
pinkie pie, -ts, -fs, -ry, -rd, -aj, -sg, -tia, -luna, -etc etc etc
Fixing this retroactively would be fairly time consuming I know (but would be deeply appreciated), but you could at the very least prevent it from ever happening again with relative ease: The site already sorts character tags into their own category, so simply implement a check that if someone tries to upload something with two or more character tags and the “solo” tag, return an error.
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IMO, when a character is so barely, incidentally in a cropped picture, they shouldn’t get tagged. I would remove Pinkie Pie from the tags on that image.
In other cases, that’s what the tags solo focus and offscreen character are for - although unfortunately, there isn’t a way to connect which characters are the focus and which are offscreen.
*cough*cough*featurerequest*cough*
The site already sorts character tags into their own category, so simply implement a check that if someone tries to upload something with two or more character tags and the “solo” tag, return an error.
Unfortunately, this would fail (without further work to create an exception list) because some characters get multiple character-categorized tags applied in tandem: for example, golden harvest/carrot top, or sci-twi/twilight sparkle
It also fails in the case when other characters are depicted but not present - for example, a picture of Twilight Sparkle with a photo of the mane six displayed on the wall could get all of the character tags, but be a “solo” picture because only Twi is actually there.
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Unfortunately, this would fail (without further work to create an exception list) because some characters get multiple character-categorized tags applied in tandem: for example, golden harvest/carrot top, or sci-twi/twilight sparkle
There’s few enough of those that they can be easily added as exceptions to the check
It also fails in the case when other characters are depicted but not present - for example, a picture of Twilight Sparkle with a photo of the mane six displayed on the wall could get all of the character tags, but be a “solo” picture because only Twi is actually there.
This is exactly the kind of scenario I want it to apply to. If I search for “pinkie pie, solo” I do NOT want to get a picture that is clearly of Twilight and only Twilight but which happens to have a tiny picture of Pinkie in the corner of the image.
Plus OC tags or nameless characters or random depictions of animals that are not named.
Why would this change anything? OCs should be subject to the same rule (if I don’t want a picture of Twilight with a tiny picture of Pinkie in the corner, I definitely do not want some random-ass OC with a tiny picture of Pinkie in the corner), and random depictions of unnamed animals aren’t character tags so wouldn’t trigger the check anyway.
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Bringing this back because it just came up again in a pic that I created and uploaded myself >>3248934 (and because y’all just ignored my perfectly reasonable counterarguments)
I propose “solo focus” and the tagging practice surrounding it is utterly stupid and useless and should be abolished, to be replaced with simply “solo” and the name of the pony who is the focus, without tagging the barely-visible ponies at all. To quote my own comment:
Seriously, actually think for one second about what it would be like searching for those terms and tell me it would ever be of any use. Hell you can try it yourself: searching for sunny starscout, solo focus returns so many pics that are NOT focused on Sunny, and zipp storm, solo focus will still return this pic because there is no possible way to indicate WHO is the solo focus. But if you tagged it the way I wanted to, it would actually fucking show up when someone searches sunny starscout, solo and NOT zipp storm, solo which is actually useful.
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Alright fine. You don’t want to talk about it. I guess I’ll just continue being endlessly frustrated at this stupid inefficiency built into the tagging system. Fuckers.
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Jesus Celestia, get some anger management. Your other thread went from “grumpy” to “flaming” real quick, too.
I was taking some time fixing up other tags on the site (like when people hadn’t tagged “solo” at all) and contemplating whether it’d be better to propose a new type of tag that identifies who’s a focus (eg. “sunny starscout focus”) or who’s incidental (and what word to use for it - “background” and “offscreen” are too specific, and “minor” has cultural problems as a word).
In the end, I think it’d be more work for taggers but also easiest to navigate to find what you want if “character focus” tags start to be used. They shouldn’t imply “solo focus”*; for example, you could easily have a picture with two characters as the scene’s focus and, say, the rest of the mane 6 in the background off to the sides. That’d be “duo focus, character A focus, character B focus, mane six”.
(Or would it be better like, “focus:character name”?)
I propose “solo focus” and the tagging practice surrounding it is utterly stupid and useless and should be abolished, to be replaced with simply “solo” and the name of the pony who is the focus, without tagging the barely-visible ponies at all. To quote my own comment:
In the type of examples you showed, I agreed with omitting tags for the incidental, nearly-out-of-frame characters altogether and calling it “solo”.
In other cases, like >>2917634, you would absolutely still want to identify Sci-Twi, because she’s an important part of the situation in the scene, but the image is also undoubtedly one you wouldn’t call a picture focused on Sci-Twi. It’s a “duo focus”+”trio” composition.
Seriously, actually think for one second about what it would be like searching for those terms and tell me it would ever be of any use. Hell you can try it yourself: searching for sunny starscout, solo focus returns so many pics that are NOT focused on Sunny, and zipp storm, solo focus will still return this pic because there is no possible way to indicate WHO is the solo focus. But if you tagged it the way I wanted to, it would actually fucking show up when someone searches sunny starscout, solo and NOT zipp storm, solo which is actually useful.
At least it takes merely a second to glance at the thumbnail to recognize it’s not featuring the character one is looking for.

* I take the same issue with “male focus”/“female focus” currently implying “solo focus” because you can easily have multiples-of-same-gender the focus, and other-gender minimized.
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Your other thread went from “grumpy” to “flaming” real quick, too.
Oh gee sorry for getting a little annoyed at being ignored by staff AGAIN despite having perfectly sound logic AGAIN.
Don’t mistake my use of profanity for foaming at the mouth anger, buddy. I’m annoyed, that’s all.
I swear there’s just no point to these suggestion forums at all, they’re simply a place for us lowly users to vent our grievances and pretend like we might have a little bit of influence when we really don’t.
…Anyways. On with the illusion of control, right?
The character-specific focus tags is… wasteful. Too much effort for too little gain. But honestly, can anyone tell me there’s actually any reason to tag these barely-visible characters at all? Seriously, take the image in my OP for example: why on earth would anyone EVER need the Pinkie Pie tag to be on that image? What purpose does it serve? Because as far as I can tell, it serves absolutely zero purpose except to frustrate people like me who are searching for fluttershy, solo
I don’t think we should be tagging these characters based on one strand of hair or the corner of one hoof or some equally useless tiny section of their body being visible at all. The fact that people are tagging them in the first place is simply ridiculous.
>inb4 heap paradox as a counter-argument
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@Maonyman
Sound logic is not I want to abolish this tag becasue I don't like it. People would rage at us if we did that.
I’m not sure what you expect us to do, make people not tag little bits of characters? I mean I don’t do it, It’s shockingly hard to make people do what they should or not do what they shouldn’t.
I mean if you meant your first idea, no, again. The only real thing that can be done here is to just deal with things as they are now and make a push against tagging incidental parts.
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