Unpopular opinion time
Aurora Glimmer
Wow! Glimmer
@soundtea
Call me when Twilight Sparkle starts up a cult and brainwashes a whole bunch of ponies after stealing their Cutie Marks. Oh, and after she starts imprisoning ponies for daring to disagree with her harebrained ideology. For the sake of argument, I’m witholding my usual comparisons of Starlight Glimmer to real-life dictators and claiming she’s some sort of mass murderer, as well as my usual accusations of her wanting to take over Equestria.
Call me when Twilight Sparkle starts up a cult and brainwashes a whole bunch of ponies after stealing their Cutie Marks. Oh, and after she starts imprisoning ponies for daring to disagree with her harebrained ideology. For the sake of argument, I’m witholding my usual comparisons of Starlight Glimmer to real-life dictators and claiming she’s some sort of mass murderer, as well as my usual accusations of her wanting to take over Equestria.
Kirb 
@Crystal Neighybánya
All these comment edit wars, lol. I feel like if this were a real-life conversation we’d all be interrupting each other and stepping over each other’s sentences.
All these comment edit wars, lol. I feel like if this were a real-life conversation we’d all be interrupting each other and stepping over each other’s sentences.
DanielTepesKraus 
will return
@Crystal Neighybánya
Starlight was easily the scariest villain associated with MLP period.
Starlight was easily the scariest villain associated with MLP period.
soundtea 
Ocellus is best buggo
@Crystal Neighybánya
Like I said, Twilight may be on the side of good, but she has shown pre-princesshood to know mind altering spells (Want it Need it), and be completely willing to brainwash villains to serve good. For all we know, Starlight is pretty much Twilight born on the wrong side of the tracks.
Like I said, Twilight may be on the side of good, but she has shown pre-princesshood to know mind altering spells (Want it Need it), and be completely willing to brainwash villains to serve good. For all we know, Starlight is pretty much Twilight born on the wrong side of the tracks.
Aurora Glimmer
Wow! Glimmer
@DanielTepesKraus
And that’s why redeeming her - instaredemption or no - would be such a waste. She’s an excellent villain.
@soundtea
Brainwashing villains is a little different than brainwashing innocent ponies, just like how killing another soldier in combat is different than a soldier opening fire on a bunch of civilians. It’s all about context and the other person’s ability to retaliate.
And that’s why redeeming her - instaredemption or no - would be such a waste. She’s an excellent villain.
@soundtea
Brainwashing villains is a little different than brainwashing innocent ponies, just like how killing another soldier in combat is different than a soldier opening fire on a bunch of civilians. It’s all about context and the other person’s ability to retaliate.
Lord WyrmSpawN 
Lingering Wyvern
@soundtea
Which is why I hope they forget to have Twilight copy and cast the spell on her.
You can say Karma all you want, but I do not want that kind of power in Twilight’s hooves.
Which is why I hope they forget to have Twilight copy and cast the spell on her.
You can say Karma all you want, but I do not want that kind of power in Twilight’s hooves.
Aurora Glimmer
Wow! Glimmer
@PonyPon
I think the best solution would be to erase the spell so nopony could ever use it again. It’s simply too dangerous and has no real positive, practical purposes. It’s like Sarin gas: it’s only got one possible use and that is to inflict suffering.
I think the best solution would be to erase the spell so nopony could ever use it again. It’s simply too dangerous and has no real positive, practical purposes. It’s like Sarin gas: it’s only got one possible use and that is to inflict suffering.
Aurora Glimmer
Wow! Glimmer
On a (somewhat) related note, I’d like to apologize for being batshit. I dunno’ why, but discussing Glimmer just brings out the worst in me.
soundtea
Ocellus is best buggo
@Crystal Neighybánya
That’s still some really sketchy shit there. If she went through with it, it would still be screwing with Discord’s mind to make him be a goody twoshoes. Giving Twilight the freedom to forcibly rewrite bad minds to make them good willy nilly is making her just as bad as Starlight.
That’s still some really sketchy shit there. If she went through with it, it would still be screwing with Discord’s mind to make him be a goody twoshoes. Giving Twilight the freedom to forcibly rewrite bad minds to make them good willy nilly is making her just as bad as Starlight.
soundtea
Ocellus is best buggo
@MrXemnas1992
Yeah, not exactly one of Twilight’s shining moments.
Kinda reminds me of what Superman did to villains in the Justice Lords universe. Heat vision lobotomy and sentence them to work in an Arkham Asylum that’s all pretty with gardens and blue skies.
Yeah, not exactly one of Twilight’s shining moments.
Kinda reminds me of what Superman did to villains in the Justice Lords universe. Heat vision lobotomy and sentence them to work in an Arkham Asylum that’s all pretty with gardens and blue skies.
Background Pony #448F
@soundtea
This is all operating under the assumption that the reformation spell would have brainwashed him in the first place. We have no idea what it would have done, so that’s a big assumption to make.
This is all operating under the assumption that the reformation spell would have brainwashed him in the first place. We have no idea what it would have done, so that’s a big assumption to make.
Trickquestion
@soundtea
I still think Twilight’s lowest moment was Crystal Empire, where she willingly and unrepentantly sees passing her test as more important than people’s lives. She only hands it off to Spike after she’s sure she’s failed anyway and afterwards, despite this stunning victory over a ruthless evil, she’s still throwing herself a pity party because she thinks she made the wrong decision.
Twilight put her own advancement and satisfaction over the well being of an entire city. Why is she our protagonist!?
I still think Twilight’s lowest moment was Crystal Empire, where she willingly and unrepentantly sees passing her test as more important than people’s lives. She only hands it off to Spike after she’s sure she’s failed anyway and afterwards, despite this stunning victory over a ruthless evil, she’s still throwing herself a pity party because she thinks she made the wrong decision.
Twilight put her own advancement and satisfaction over the well being of an entire city. Why is she our protagonist!?
441TheSecond
Escapee from Alcatraz
@Trickquestion
Honestly, The Crystal Empire as a whole was so badly written, it could have been vastly improved had you changed the final act and removed the test aspect.
Honestly, The Crystal Empire as a whole was so badly written, it could have been vastly improved had you changed the final act and removed the test aspect.
DanielTepesKraus
will return
@Background Pony #7119
It’s a bigger assumption to assume it wouldn’t. It punishing him in some way is out because they already have that in the form of resealing him in stone. There’s basically 3 plausible ways a “reforming” spell could work:
It’s a bigger assumption to assume it wouldn’t. It punishing him in some way is out because they already have that in the form of resealing him in stone. There’s basically 3 plausible ways a “reforming” spell could work:
- Limits his power in a way that he can only use it for things they want him to use it on. For example, he can’t use magic unless it’s with their approval or something.
- Restricts him in some way if he disobeys. Ever watch Inuyasha with that bead necklace thing he has? Like that, basically.
- Alters his mind in some way to make him subservient.
And the nature of it being called a “reform” spell heavily implies it works by altering his mind.
Jades
@Trickquestion
I still retain in my mind that Celestia was the worse thing to come out the Crystal Empire. It literally almost assassinated her character.
I still retain in my mind that Celestia was the worse thing to come out the Crystal Empire. It literally almost assassinated her character.
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