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@ЅℰℒᎯℙℋℐℰℒ
If you ask me, we had enough “good guy corrupted by magical forces of negative influence” in G4 as is.
Especially since Twilight already has 10 different foils and rivals that are “Twilight, but [negative attribute]”.
Related note, I think the “Twilight turns evil and grumpy in G5 time” idea is really cliche and dumb.
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I just rewatched Rainbow Roadtrip… well, skimmed it… and, well, there’s really not much wrong with it except a lack of things right with it? And even that’s probably subjective…
(It kind of feels like a pony RPG adventure written for a party who prefer freeform RP.)
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@Dragonpone
Not to mention it’ll be based on the concept of everything going to waste. Which is not something people really feel like wanting. Nowadays everything is so “meta” and “dire” it feels more like they just had to lower other people and characters down rather than making something actually up to the task.
@Latecomer
I admit I’d take Rainbow Roadtrip’s low but solid stakes and fun factor over the dramatic yet often rather lackluster high scales villain plot we had around later on.
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I admit I’d take Rainbow Roadtrip’s low but solid stakes and fun factor over the dramatic yet often rather lackluster high scales villain plot we had around later on.
Not everything has to be high stakes to be enjoyable.
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@Megalobronia
I completely agree. However, I’ve never cared for Rainbow Roadtrip or understood why some heap praise on it. The plot just rehashes elements from The Crystal Empire and The Cutie Map to create a needlessly drawn out and bloated story with paper-thin characters and a bland new part of the world that offers nothing new to the series. My favorite part of the special is how it opens up with a scene with Spike. And then…Spike never appears again for the rest of the special. Problems with the writing definitely get glossed over because of the love for the animation. I really don’t get how anyone can act like it was trying to tell a great, aspiring story when the entire reason it was made was to promote new wings for a Twilight Sparkle toy while saving Hasbro money by not letting scrapped material from the theatrical G4 movie go to waste. I get enjoying the special, obviously…but it’s not intended to be anything exceptional.
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I don’t know if Disney in particular is what comes to mind, but there has been quite a lot of “Former protagonist becomes bitter/disillusioned/pathetic in age” among legacy sequels.
That’s not what I want for Twilight.
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One interesting thing to note is that it’s among the first things Boulder Media worked on for MLP (I can’t remember whether it was the first thing, or if the EqG Summertime Shorts came first)
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Ignorance is bliss. Because some think it was because of that that problems happened and who has to do it? Her faithful student. Also everyone has different degrees of resistance to jadedness. Don’t like to call a person out but if you’re reading this, I am sorry that you can no longer see even the small positive side of this fandom and I don’t blame you. But back on topic, how do we really know that Twilight’s descent into jadedness has never or ever happened? Have you tried asking her?
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@Dragonpone
I’m really tired of that.
Plus people always treat run-on-the-mill cynicism as “not naive anymore”. That’s a rather tunnel-vision way to admit someone is unwilling to see the full picture, would rather use cynicism as something to marry as opposed to a tool that would merely keep yourself on your toes.
Is actually prone to be childishly naive in a way when it doesn’t help to look out for practical, actually functional solutions, and cynicism is seen less like a tool and more like the new god for some people.
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Wisdom doesn’t require overwhelming dourness. She has said she accepted how painful many things have been, so she’s not blind, she just tries to still do the best from time to time.
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Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think that’s the general consensus of the special, it’s good but nothing truly exceptional besides the close emulation of the movie’s style.
@Twi Clown
Honestly me too. I get that as we get older we become wiser and better understanding of the world and its many many faults, but it shouldn’t be the be all end all for any optimism. It really doesn’t lead to an enjoyable story if everything about it is disillusionment without any sort of reality, basis or even comedy to fall back on.
river mines

people have this problem that sad and dark stories are automatically realistic
As a fan of heroes, the greatest example of all is the idea of evil Superman, especially the boys.
A lot of people say that Homelander is the real Superman and Clark Kent is not realistic.
but I consider the opposite the reasons are beyond what has to do with a my little pony topic but it really boils down to one question: what is more realistic?
a guy being a genetic experiment from an evil company, raised from a young age in a laboratory to become a psychopath.
or a guy who was adopted by nice parents and trying to help people through volunteer work?
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@river mines
Were this not a pony thread I could go for paragraphs about how people who don’t read Superman misrepresent him, or how flat a lot of the “Superman, but Evil” deconstructions can become.
In any case, I don’t find a cynical character inherently more interesting or more realistic than an optimistic one. I do tend to like my escapist fiction to have a little optimism in it, especially the ones with the technicolor talking horses.
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Not to mention, if there’s nothing to look up to…what exactly can we strive for? Ultimately if everything is gonna be that cyclic in the worst possible way then might as well never bother.
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She wasn’t cynical for the sake of cynicism though. Even back then the idea is that she wants actual solutions and mindful ideas over “saccharine pastiche”. When friendship and compassion proved to be worth it alongside the emotional enrichment it brings, her behavior moved on accordingly to what works, not according what is “sugar and candy” or “skulls and nihilism”.
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@river mines
When most of the time it isn’t but that’s a topic unrelated to this thread
@Twi Clown
It would thinking about it go against the ideals and principles of what the show stands for, which is friendship being magic
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I agree with you on the latter term; I always thought “everycreature” sounded stupid even when Season 8 was first announced(It also didn’t help when I later found out that some of the season’s staff were on the…let’s say, “politically aggressive” side of life.).
Not to mention it also seems a bit redundant since previous seasons used the phrase “everybody”.
In fact, I can’t think of a single episode from Seasons 8 or 9 where the suffix “-body” was used. Can you?
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Sure makes me appreciate I never had to deal with “everydwarf” or “anyelf.”
Also makes me wonder if “everypony” was deliberately created way back then to smooth out the unification process between the racist three tribes.
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