…not only was villain Starlight of the season 5 finale WAY more intelligent and Machiavellian then Cozy Glow or Reformed Starlight…
I mean… That’s debatable. At least Starlight had a reason for doing things, as short-sighted as it was. I not going to say you’re wrong in saying that Starlight was super evil, because that would not change the fact that Cozy is worse than her by virtue of:
- Almost killing children and thinking nothing of it
- Betraying teachers who thought she was learning their way of life for power
- Almost dooming the entire country willingly. Twice.
- Leaving aforementioned teachers to rot in prison with her pen pal.
- Not felling any remorse for the above and refusing the chance to explain herself or stop
- Teaming up with some of the biggest threats of the country instead of backing down ( probably wasn’t an option, but she didn’t even consider it).
-… And many more.
I aware of the bad thing Starlight did, yes, but they would thing pale in comparison in sheer scummy-ness.
I mean, maybe the brainwashing thing could top that, but you didn’t reffer to that, so…
… and did this not out of ideology, but out of overwhelming and cruel and completely evil SPITE.
And why did she have that spite? Because Twilight destroyed her carefully constructed village.
And why was this a big deal to her? Because of her ideology.
And why is her ideology important? Because she believe ( wrongly ) that CMs were bad and though the world was better without them.
Did she overreact due to her need for revenge? Most certainly. That is one of Starlight defining characteristics, Overreacting. However, Starlight herself was not aware of the unfairly large scale that the consequences of her actions had, after all, she dismissed how important Twilight’s friendship with the girls was to the world and though she was a nobody. There is also nothing in that episode that explicitly say that she knew what she was doing to Twilight other than hurting her heart, but only because of the friendships she was severing, not the bad futures she never saw.
…Their ideologies weren’t the only difference…
You’re right, they weren’t. Starlight was oblivious to her (moral) mistakes. Cozy wasn’t, she knew what she was doing and what it meant.
… The reason Starlight reformed was because she was given the ULTIMATE denial of her own path.
I though that it was because she realize the the mistake she made due to a lie she beheld stubbornly, as it’s never suggested that the reason she was horrified of that future was because of what she did, and not what happened to her and her path, especifically.
She could have, but that’s not what is shown and said.
…That’s not something Cozy Glow would of gone through either with her confidence intact, and you know it.
… No, I don’t, because that was never explicitly shown.
… Cozy IS really good at being evil, but as all as adults with retrospect know, kids have no filter.
Yes, most kids have no filter. However, that does not mean that the same applies to Cozy, and with few possible exceptions, nothing in the show suggests that it is.
I mean, this:
(keep in mind that she is mocking someone lack of ability in a certain area in this scene. Who and what ability doesn’t matter, just that they are insecure about it)
… Doesn’t exactly seems and sounds like someone who is
not unaware of what they’re doing entails, orwilling to undergo any type of therapy or redemption. In fact, it sounds like something Chrysalis would do if she cared who Fluttershy was. Also be aware that Cozy has
No Reason to mock her like this. But who knows, that’s just me.
A kid just intelligent enough to get a grasp and passion for sadism would be an absolute terror. But she’s isn’t some perpetual creature destined to do the same thing over and over again forever. She’s merely a kid with prodigy nasty streak. Especially as children, our minds grow, our minds learn when confronted with arguments better then oneself, our hearts change. Cozy was mentally prepared to reject all regular friendships with no special treatment. She is a bad egg, but she ain’t the devil. She can be outwitted, she can be emotionally perplexed.
Problem is, nothing in the show suggests that Cozy is like any other child her age ( and a certain scene), and this assumption is what caused the S8 Finale in the first place, and neither does she seems interested on the mere thought of stopping and thinking about what she is doing, both for herself and others.
If anything her desire for power was reflective on how naive and short sighted she was, despite being mentally more advanced for a kid her age
I mean, by that logic, other evil character im the show are naive as well.
However, even if Cozy is naive or has other has child characteristics, that doesn’t mean that she is capable of redemption by the show standards, but since that doesn’t mean anything to certain people; she was scummy, perhaps more than maybe one of her emprisoned companions, and if they were given the same sentenced- one of them also given a chance to stop what they were doing - why should her be the same? “because her being a child matters”?
Even though
… If someone far more intelligent the Cozy…
Assuming they exist
But that would still be a gamble that could be extremely risky, unlike Starlight, who already gave up before Twilight decided her “punishment”.
(a very obvious difference between sending a child to Tartarus for what she did when compared to punishing a former cult leader and time terrorist with free room and board)
A “time terrorist” who already gave up and was accepting of any type of punishment, realized why what she did was wrong and, when given the chance, improved for the better.
Cozy never gave up, selfishly though what she did was “right” because power, and never attempted to improve herself even when given the option.
… things may have been a lot different.
And that’s just it. They MAY have been different. Both for the characters in the show and the audience, there is no reason to assume that it would work out, and Cozy herself makes it hard due to who she is and how hostile she was being.
… Some adults in the comments see it as an excuse for Cozy to get to do whatever she wants, but I see the opposite…Cozy being a child is an excuse for Bronies to blame the actions of a child, a creature with very little experience or self reflection, with as much hate as possible, without accepting what children really are to ruin their fun.
That is… The most ridiculous thing I ever read you say.
On Cozy’s end however, Tartarus then petrification were two incredibly high penalties.
She got what she deserved. Just saying.
By the way, you keep talking about Starlight doing time terrorism and how horrible she is for it, but:
1- She didn’t know she was doing it, was visibly horrified whe she discovered, and started denying it before accepting that what she did was really wrong
2- She was fine with being punished for it.
3- How horrible that time terromism actually isn’t clear because the show doesn’t explicitly show what happened to them.
4- Time terromism isn’t even established as being as horrible as you say it is, it only assumptions. Maybe it is terrible in the your head, but is it just as terrible the world of the show? It is bad, mind you, but how much?
Now, all things considered, who is the less evil of the two and more reasonable to have Twilight redeeming?
I not saying that Starlight is/was a saint, obviously, she did horrible things, but at least she realized it before I was too late. Unlike a certain filly.
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