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"Twilight Time". "Twilight Time" is how. Amusingly, Twilight admits she has no idea why the CMC would do what she was accusing them of, which makes you wonder just how she didn't realize something was up.

@AC97
See, but Twilight was right about Cadance!Chrysalis. That was the point: she knew Cadance well enough to make such an accusation and be right. Here, she's making a truly baseless accusation against those she has no place accusing.
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She wasn't making the accusation because she thought it wasn't the real Cadance though. She went from thinking she was a jerk to evil, which was a bit of a leap, with the proof (or lack thereof) she had on hand hoof.

Just because you happened to be right doesn't mean you did nothing wrong.
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Still, she should practice what she preaches. She'd have an easier time teaching people about friendship if she showed them how much better things work when friends hear each other out, trust one another, have faith in one another, and don't throw baseless accusations at them :P

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I'm not bad-mouthing the episode itself or the writing or anything. Just calling out bad behavior. It's in-character for Twilight to jump to conclusions, treat friends badly, and then not even apologize, but it's still wrong :P
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That’s even more passive aggressive. Applejack has spent Apple Bloom’s formative years beating her over the head with honesty, of course these three know that. She still doesn’t apologize or offer anything to make up for it, all she does is admit she was wrong, and only in implications.
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I've heard of that show before, it used to air in Germany a few years back. Though I never saw it, it's something I only remember from the TV guides.
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I guess, in the way a murderer "relieves someone of the stresses of life without their consent" ;D

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Yeah, that came off as a really smug and callous way of trying to save face rather than an apology. It's not about that the CMC knew honesty already, it's about that Twilight wronged them with an unfair accusation. Twilight doesn't even admit that she did anything wrong, let alone express any actual regret. "I'm sorry girls, I was wrong" is all she had to say :P
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She doesn't even give them what they wanted originally either. They wanted to be students at her truly much cooler school, so she… made it impossible for them to enroll by declaring them graduates? Yeah that makes sense.
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It was kind of an odd resolution. Not anything that ruins the episode or anything, but you'd think "When you wrong your friends, own up and apologize" would have been the resolution they'd have wanted to use in an episode that takes place in a friendship school in a series based entirely around friendship :P
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Discord's best episode ever was "Breakup Breakdown". It managed to both keep his self-centered jerk personality while actually having him be a good person for once. Him saving Big Mac's relationship is what finally sold me on his reformation… until "A Matter of Principals" proved it was just a fluke.
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Consistency gives him indigestion. And seriously, we saw all the way back in Three's a Crowd that he acts differently around his friends. Which probably does mean he's well short of good… but Neutral with some strong ties to more moral individuals is a lot better than the alternatives.
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huh. missed a good "twilight is a shitty headmaster" debate. i will say though, that if twilight had honor and respect and truly wanted to teach her students about friendship, she'd have stood herself and the cmc in front of the class and said "earlier today i was angry and i unfairly accused these three of something they didn't do. and it was wrong of me. friends shouldn't do that to each other. girls, i was wrong and i'm sorry."

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that worked in the episode's favor because it made it pure catharsis for one simple fact. really think about the plot step by step. it's about a dangerous unsympathetic selfish antagonist targeting a protagonist and her friends as payback for taking something he wanted. they are "dueling" one-on-one because the antagonist removed the protagonist's allies from the equation. the protagonist must juggle dueling the antagonist with trying to clean up the antagonist's messes. the antagonist is too powerful for the protagonist to stop. the antagonist ultimately cows the protagonist into giving him a reward he didn't earn or deserve because it's the only way to make him stop. the antagonist never once suffers and karmic repercussions, punishment, or negative consequences for his actions, or even really seems to care about how much damage he caused or how badly he harmed or endangered the lives of others. nobody in-universe has any real objection to any of this. where have we seen that plot before?
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Chaotic Neutral bordering on Good is better than him being Chaotic Evil, ready to wreak havoc again, having learned from his mistakes.

(I'd personally trust say, Starlight to help me with almost any given problem more than Discord, not because I think the latter can't help… but because I seriously doubt he'd just straight-up help under most circumstances, since at the best of times, he's usually a Trickster Mentor, meaning he's not going to "coddle you.")
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Discord was as clever in Matter of principal as Starlight in The Cutie remark. The only difference is about witnesses who saw the major destruction. But yeah, main lesson is giving amnesty and some of kind of prize if you can't defeat your foe with magic or angry stares.
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