Starlight Glimmer- What is the opinion of her still?

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I think that Hasbro and the writing team are well aware that fans react divisively to new alicorns (Twilight, Flurry Heart). So giving that to Starlight would just make things worse.
 
And as much as I like Glimmy, she’s nowhere near deserving it.
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If I may be allowed to give my own two cents about Starlight Glimmer;
 
I’ve always viewed Starlight as a mixed bag, personally. She had a surprisingly really great start to her career as a villain during the season five premier, even if she was basically just a rip-off of Amon from the first season of Legend of Korra, [spoiler]minus how he dies at the end of his arc]. She was something already as dangerous as Tirek, which really managed to raise the bar pretty high for the rest of the season. Unfortunately though, she wasn’t able to keep that momentum going.
 
During the events of The Cutie Re-Mark, Starlight Glimmer’s entire character is flushed down the toilet. All of that build-up towards figuring out why she was doing all of what she was doing was made nonsensical from how childish and unbelievable her actual backstory was. It isn’t made much better during the last few minutes of part two, where she completely gives up on her entire goal at the drop of a hat, gets forgiven of all of her crimes without any real logic, and is even put into the main cast as an important character. I’m sorry to say it, but that made me feel nothing but hatred for her.
 
As mentioned before, Starlight essentially possesses the worst traits out of two other characters meant to represent a parallel Twilight, those being Sunset Shimmer and Moondancer. Sunset has a horribly rushed redemption at the last second because she decided to give up out of nowhere, while Moondancer ended up having her entire life ruined by losing a friend. But, as it was also mentioned, Sunset and Moondancer had been handled FAR better than Starlight was. Sunset had to genuinely work for the others’ trust and friendship while Moondancer had some common sense and simply gave up on making friends altogether, becoming a bitter hermit in her own home and refusing to become friends with anyone.
 
Really, Starlight is only ever used in what few episodes she has as a plot device, in the same ineffective manner as the cutie mark map from season five, for that matter.Literally, look at any of her episodes and you’ll see how meaningless it was for her to even be there. She only exists to be the mcguffin keeping episode plots together, and really, hasn’t made any steps towards improvement with what few episodes she even appears in, moving backwards as a character altogether.
 
Of course, it’s made substantially worse by how the writers-stupid as they are-can’t seem to figure out just what they’re doing with her. They’re trying to make her good, but really, it’s as if they’re trying to make a bridge between Sunset in the movie canon and the actual show’s canon, but unlike Sunset, Starlight doesn’t have any of the charisma, personality, or charm that Sunset has, nor does she have anywhere near as good development. The only thing that manages to make all of that worse has to be the fact that the other characters essentially have to become worthless so that she can look good at all. The season six finale, to me, will remain as easily the worst finale the show has had to date, with the season five finale close behind. I’d have been fine with Starlight being redeemed under two situations; one, she had a genuinely good or even remotely plausible backstory, and two, if her redemption wasn’t twice as rushed as Gildas was.
 
As it stands, I don’t mind Starlight all that much. She’s merely just a mediocre character with little potential that Josh Haber or Mike Vogul haven’t wasted yet. If the series is going to try and force Starlight to be the next main character, they’d have to seriously change up the entire formula behind her character, as well as also make season seven the last season. The longer it goes on, the worse it’s likely going to get.
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I really, really love Starlight Glimmer. I find her to be so cute and so adorable and I just want to hug her. Also, even though I didn’t like the backstory given to her in the season 5 finale, I thought the writing for her in season 6 was done masterfully, with her being portrayed as an incredibly flawed pony with a lot of issues who still wants to be good.
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The fact that they’re not outright denying Glimmercorn says a lot though.
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During the events of The Cutie Re-Mark, Starlight Glimmer’s entire character is flushed down the toilet. All of that build-up towards figuring out why she was doing all of what she was doing was made nonsensical from how childish and unbelievable her actual backstory was.
 
I’ve always been baffled by the whole “her background is unbelievable” argument. We didn’t get much information with the finale, but they really fleshed it out in Season 6 and it makes sense. She had crippling self-doubt, difficulty learning magic as a child, and her one real friend suddenly up and abandoned her. No wonder she stopped trusting anyone. Her town was an attempt to deal with her own fear that people would just leave her, by using cult tactics to make sure they wouldn’t. The whole cutie mark thing was just her own mental gymnastics to justify it.
 
It isn’t made much better during the last few minutes of part two, where she completely gives up on her entire goal at the drop of a hat, gets forgiven of all of her crimes without any real logic, and is even put into the main cast as an important character. I’m sorry to say it, but that made me feel nothing but hatred for her.
 
Really? I mean, her goal at that point was really to get back at Twilight. Once she realized that was actually going to make things worse… she still considered going through with it. She had to be talked down, and convinced to take a chance by trusting the person she’d been trying to destroy. I don’t call that “at the drop of a hat.”
 
The ending montage was a rushed resolution… but it’s a montage. She wasn’t reformed instantly, it’s meant to depict her trying to improve over time. And then we got Season 6, to actually see her try (and sometimes fail) to be better.
 
As for being forgiven… it’s Equestria. Despite what she did, forgiveness is pretty much their go-to for dealing with problems. It’s only people who refuse to reform & keep trying to hurt others that get locked away.
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During the events of The Cutie Re-Mark, Starlight Glimmer’s entire character is flushed down the toilet. All of that build-up towards figuring out why she was doing all of what she was doing was made nonsensical from how childish and unbelievable her actual backstory was.
I’ve always been baffled by the whole “her background is unbelievable” argument. We didn’t get much information with the finale, but they really fleshed it out in Season 6 and it makes sense. She had crippling self-doubt, difficulty learning magic as a child, and her one real friend suddenly up and abandoned her. No wonder she stopped trusting anyone. Her town was an attempt to deal with her own fear that people would just leave her, by using cult tactics to make sure they wouldn’t. The whole cutie mark thing was just her own mental gymnastics to justify it.
It isn’t made much better during the last few minutes of part two, where she completely gives up on her entire goal at the drop of a hat, gets forgiven of all of her crimes without any real logic, and is even put into the main cast as an important character. I’m sorry to say it, but that made me feel nothing but hatred for her.
Really? I mean, her goal at that point was really to get back at Twilight. Once she realized that was actually going to make things worse… she still considered going through with it. She had to be talked down, and convinced to take a chance by trusting the person she’d been trying to destroy. I don’t call that “at the drop of a hat.”
The ending montage was a rushed resolution… but it’s a montage. She wasn’t reformed instantly, it’s meant to depict her trying to improve over time. And then we got Season 6, to actually see her try (and sometimes fail) to be better.
As for being forgiven… it’s Equestria. Despite what she did, forgiveness is pretty much their go-to for dealing with problems. It’s only people who refuse to reform & keep trying to hurt others that get locked away.
 
THIS.
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The ending montage was a rushed resolution… but it’s a montage. She wasn’t reformed instantly, it’s meant to depict her trying to improve over time.
 
It doesn’t really change the fact that she received forgiveness and redemption much quicker than Discord, while also doing far less to earn it. (And by that I mean, well, pretty much nothing.)
 
On top of that, the montage irks me because it’s twice been used as an extremely lazy way to imply a positive relationship with Starlight and the Remane 5. And yet, there isn’t really any reason to believe she has any respect for them. That she still doesn’t see them like she sees pretty much everyone else: as tools that exist to serve her whenever she needs it.
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In the context of the season five finale being as rushed as it was, Starlight’s backstory didn’t make any sense until season six, when people were already preparing to burn Starlight at the stake. THey took way too long to come up with the actual reasoning behind her backstory, when it would’ve been far more relevant to actually include it when it was most mandatory. Instead, Josh Haber decided it would be ‘more fun’ to waste almost the entire finale on fanservice for what few fans there were of previous villains, so they wasted all the time that they had to explain her backstory.
 
Also, to the people who assume Starlight is going to become an alicorn, I’m almost entirely certain that the team of whatever writers are left WOULD NOT DARE to do that. We have enough as is with the five we have now, we don’t need another one running around, macking a practical mockery of the series lore, and it definitely shouldn’t be Starlight Glimmer either since there’s NO WAY she can be trusted with such power.
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Every time everyone has said there “dare wouldn’t be another alicorn” (after Cadance), it’s happened.
 
  • Twilight  
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  • Twilight’s human clone
     
    And Starlight Glimmer will make seven. Or six, depending on whether you view Equestria Girls as canon.
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Don’t see why Starlight Glimmer would become an alicorn before the mane six or any of the other ponies who are far more prepared for the role. Plus I don’t see how that would be a satisfying conclusion to her character arc. I mean, I don’t know what she’ll be like in S7, but still.
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The ending montage was a rushed resolution… but it’s a montage. She wasn’t reformed instantly, it’s meant to depict her trying to improve over time.
It doesn’t really change the fact that she received forgiveness and redemption much quicker than Discord, while also doing far less to earn it. (And by that I mean, well, pretty much nothing.)
 
Discord had to prove he would keep his world altering power in check. This is a guy who can alter reality with a snap of his fingers.
 
Starlight is strong, but not “we have to turn her to stone for everyone’s safety” strong. I’d say that’s justification enough for the difference in their redemption.
 
Discord was effectively forgiven by the end of his redemption episode, after repeatedly showing he was still up to no good, until he finally saw that he had a chance for a better life & vowed to change. Kinda like Starlight.
 
And he still screws up in later episodes.
 
On top of that, the montage irks me because it’s twice been used as an extremely lazy way to imply a positive relationship with Starlight and the Remane 5. And yet, there isn’t really any reason to believe she has any respect for them. That she still doesn’t see them like she sees pretty much everyone else: as tools that exist to serve her whenever she needs it.
 
I’ll grant you, the montage can be a lazy way out for a story, and I didn’t like ending the season with it. It really didn’t work.
 
And I’d agree Starlight does have a problem with how she treats other ponies. But she’s also getting better. She’s starting to learn she can’t just magic her way into friendship; magic has been a crutch for her social issues up to now, it’s not surprising she leaned on it through her lessons.
 
She’s got serious cognitive dissonance, in that she actually does care about other ponies… but she can justify controlling them as a way to maintain friendship. She’s still that filly scared of her friends leaving her. So she does mental gymnastics to justify making Big Mac talk, or putting a mind control whammy on ponies so she can shortcut being a good friend.
 
The girl has problems, no doubt. But people seem to have this need for her to be punished that baffles me.
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In the context of the season five finale being as rushed as it was, Starlight’s backstory didn’t make any sense until season six, when people were already preparing to burn Starlight at the stake. THey took way too long to come up with the actual reasoning behind her backstory, when it would’ve been far more relevant to actually include it when it was most mandatory. Instead, Josh Haber decided it would be ‘more fun’ to waste almost the entire finale on fanservice for what few fans there were of previous villains, so they wasted all the time that they had to explain her backstory.
 
I’ll disagree that it “didn’t make any sense until season six.” Even right after the S5 finale, I could see where she was coming from: her childhood friend disappeared, and that obviously messed her perception of friendship up. People cried that it was silly, but children can fixate on small things that turn into big psychological problems. Having your only friend up and leave you without warning is something I can see messing up a kid.
 
That said, I’d agree that the montage was wasted time. It was kinda cute, but I’d rather have had more time learning about Starlight.
 
Also, to the people who assume Starlight is going to become an alicorn, I’m almost entirely certain that the team of whatever writers are left WOULD NOT DARE to do that. We have enough as is with the five we have now, we don’t need another one running around, macking a practical mockery of the series lore, and it definitely shouldn’t be Starlight Glimmer either since there’s NO WAY she can be trusted with such power.
 
I agree, we don’t need more alicorns. And Starlight certainly isn’t ready for it yet. Maybe one day she will be, but right now she’s still got a lot to learn & heal from.
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if hasbro wants a alicorn glimmer toy to sell the writers might not have a chose wither or not she gets those wings
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If they do wind up doing this, I sure hope that they at least do a better job justifying it than they did with Twilight. Or at least link it to leadership skills or something rather than personal growth, because that will never not be a load of crap.
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I don’t think that’s worth worrying too much about, given fans’ tendency to be overly hostile to just about anything. If they’re somehow able to justify Starlight becoming an alicorn princess while the rest of Twilight’s friends continue not to, then any fan hostility will just be silly.
 
 
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I agree with that.
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