MLP G5 Discussion and Speculation Thread

The ponies in the audience during Pipp and Zipp’s concert pretty accurately capture how I imagine the audience watching The Nutcracker must feel.

There definitely IS a connection with Twilight Sparkle. I am now watching the last episode of S9, and many of the decorations in the concert hall are very similar to those in the throne room in the Canterlot royal palace. Twilight uses the eight-pointed star as her magical symbol, so it’s not out of place.

At 00.00.14 one sees a glass window showing a mysterious tree under the moon, the sun - and something unidentified? Maybe the Wishing Tree?

It is very possible that the lone unicorn in front of the Wishing Tree in the first page of the book (38.40) is Flurry Heart, although her fur is somewhat whiter, and she may have been the one who confronted Opaline in the next page. As the book may have been made in the first generation after Equestria’s collapse, it is possible that the authors knew very little about them, including that they are alicorns.

Some of the magic that the Bridlewood unicorns use is very reminiscent of what these crystal ponies did, and since it is possible that there was Flurry and Opaline in the book, there is a possible connection with the Crystal Empire. Maybe Flurry was with the Mane 6 to stop Opaline, and we don’t know what kind of cutie mark she has, but if this is based on ice… a sibling conflict?

There were three central unicorns in front of the Wishing Tree in the cover. And if there is a connection between the Crystal Empire and Bridlewood, it could be Cadence, Flurry - and Opaline in those twenty years between the last two episodes of S9.

In the side showing the ice against the fire, it is possible to see the shadow of a tree and a moat bridge as the one unicorn with the same fur color that Opaline is standing on - possibly where the dark castle is located. It could be where Flurry confronted Opaline before the Mane 6 came in and defeated her, taking her magic in the process. Then they put Opaline in chains under house arrest, which we still see signs of on her.

The last page of the book then suggests that this happened many centuries before, as there was a happy ending to the tales. Zipp assumed that the conflict led to the loss of magic. But I think it was the conflict that led to the creation of the Unity Crystals.

@Ring Team
I can’t help but notice that your part about chrysalis has nothing to do with continuity

I want to see Onyx do the T.U.E.S.day chant.

Once again, we’re given hints that Equestria’s collapse happened just a few generations before Sunny’s birth. The aforementioned book was not that old, and the octagonal star and other decorations in the concert hall reveal that Twilight must have ruled for so long, that her symbols have become a permanent part of the background of the Pegasi Empire. Zipp probably reacted to the bag with Twilight’s cutie mark because she could not understand how this symbol could be known to the earth ponies. And as we see, this is a constant reminder in her subconscious.

Again we end up in 100-150 years. This is no coincidence, the IDW, TYT, MYM - all have produced the same; a very long time between the end of G4 and the beginning of G5, that Twilight had ruled for many centuries, that Equestria’s collapse is due to an attack - and that was when Opaline was under house arrest, banished from Equestria that she wasn’t even allowed to see in.

The book in C3 possibly supports Discord’s account of what had happened. Opaline has a connection with the Crystal Empire, whether she is Sombra’s descendant or Cadence’s second daughter is hard to say, but she obviously had a special significance to Twilight (and the Mane 6).

But now… I definitely believe that Twilight Sparkle is the Wishing Star that the ponies of the first generation after the collapse of Equestria looked up to, and wished her back.

At the very least, the content of the book suggests that the Winter Wishday is not the equivalent of Christmas in our world, but something else.

Did Izzy lose the Charades game on purpose?

@Background Pony #9F47
Obviously. It would be her to do such thing, to make someone else feel happy while also giving them an ornament she made.

@northern haste
I’ve always assumed a moon means a month if we go by real life astronomy

The nice thing about that is that it leaves the door open to bring back Hearth’s Warming.

Notice how in Winter Wishday, Argyle is referred to in past tense.

…He’s dead, isn’t he?

@Background Pony #9F47
Yeah.

@Background Pony #9F47
I’m pretty sure the staff confirmed that shortly after the movie was released.

@DoctorWTF
I guess they just want to make it extra clear.

It had been pondered over why the Winter Wishday in MYM and TYT was not shown in December, but at a time when winter begins in earnest, but the book and the case with the unicorn spell have explained this to us. In Europe and North America, winter started in mid-November. In the G4 we know that the pegasi and the unicorns manipulate the local climate to have seasonal weather. And there were special days when the seasons start and end.

So the Hearth’s Warming has not been replaced by the Winter Wishday, maybe we will find out in TYT. But the way the day was celebrated, with such ferocious zeal by the ponies, suggests that this day of celebration that marked the founding of Equestria may mean that it has become less important in the G5. The hypothesis that the popular and wise ruler who had been given the same importance as Celestia in G4, Twilight Sparkle, may have become the Wishing Star that the ponies remembered in the beginning, makes the Wishday very special - religiously, even.

An equestrian moon can be half a year, five to seven human months, depending on the moon’s movements in the sky. Notice the “Winter” Wishday, maybe it’s a Summer Wishday? If this comes with TYT or MYM in the next year, we may have an answer to how long a moon is in the planet Equus/Pony Earth.

@Background Pony #9F47
It’s been pretty obvious for a while

I wonder why they made Haven’s crown jewel purple instead of blue. They could have still implied that it was something like a stone carving, or glass made to look like the jewel. It would have been obvious anyway that it wasn’t the jewel anymore

Idea. Perhaps the Gift Givers of the Grove, these mysterious reindeer, exist in the G5 and are celebrated by the ponies and non-ponies in the time period where the Hearth’s Warming takes place.

It is obvious that the Hearth’s Warming took place in the darkest time of the year - in our world the Christmas is only the last of a series of celebration traditions - and then it means that the non-ponies also celebrate (unfortunately we did not get names for this - the authors in S8 messed up). With the return of magic, the reindeer can go out and revive the tradition, and the Mane 5 will be very surprised by this. The gift-giving tradition may have carried over to the Winter Wishday, so the ponies are just celebrating, not exchanging gifts, and this may confuse the reindeer.

It would be a great way to introduce non-ponies into the G5, but I think the train has passed. Instead, we will probably find the first non-trio tribes ponies in C4, the sea ponies. The map has shown us Grandma Figgy’s cottage, which we got to in C3. And this map shows us two things that we have not yet arrived at; a forest in the north-east about which we still know little, and a silhouette of a sea pony in the sea outside Maretime Bay.

The sea pony in the map warns us that we will see sea ponies in C4, (it could be in TYT…) and that there is possibly a pony civilization out there that the Mane 5 have yet to come into contact with. Possibly the Mane 5 will come down to the bottom of the sea.

I don’t think we’ve seen all the tricks in the Marestream. There is more on the way.

And we now know that the Mane 5 will become the New Mane 6 in Season 2 (possibly after C4), so Misty’s place as Fluttershy’s successor is guaranteed. It will happen after Opaline is defeated for the first time. The contents of the book in C3 and the finding of Opaline’s cutie mark in the G5 movie means that if Misty is Opaline’s adopted daughter, she is related to Twilight if the hypothesis of Opaline being Flurry Heart’s sister should be correct. We now know that Opaline’s fate is that she will be defeated and reformed in the future, but I’m guessing that will happen in S3.

Izzy x Onyx.

Could it work?

@Background Pony #9F47
Who said it couldn’t?

New episode was… cute I suppose…

Maybe they should have built an igloo for her.

We got a Posey focused episode, nice

@icicle wicicle 1517
Oh no did she not catch a break again?

@Cosmas-the-Explorer
Yes x)