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Barhandar
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"@Background Pony #C37A":/forums/meta/topics/the-anti-censorship-dnp-pledge?post_id=4840146#post_4840146
[bq]If you go after people's positions is that really better than the Twitter mobs?[/bq]Yes, again as described in the thread: the woke mobs go after people's positions for _unrelated, often long-past or perceived and vapid, transgressions_, this is about the staff's _actions AS staff_.
Comparing that is a bit dishonest, even - I feel it's similar to a fired _actually incompetent_ worker claiming they've got fired for being [insert protected group here] as opposed to _being incompetent_.
[bq]And another thing, we don't know the full context. People make mistakes.[/bq]"People" come clean, attempt fixing the consequences of the mistake, try to not repeat it again and apologize, yes, in that order, an apology is actually the least important part.
The head-staff have enforced this change silently and against other staff's opposition (I think I've mentioned my opinion on that - it's only done when you *KNOW* you are in the wrong but want to do something anyway hoping people won't notice), maintained radio silence since, got hid from the staff list (in two phases, even) while explicitly confirming they are going to remain in their positions, just as silently reverted the change to rule 5 (condensed as "don't portray nazism non-negatively") but kept the change to rule 0 and _very_ likely the unspoken-but-enforced BLM ruling.

I mean, people make mistakes. And the head-staff have made a _lot_ of mistakes in these past days, handling this in a way that is wrong and undermines their position. And having the full context cannot _excuse_ them at all, only _explain_ why they have done this. But yes, we genuinely do not know the full context and it is explicitly one of the issues people here, including myself, raise.

"@Background Pony #C37A":/forums/meta/topics/the-anti-censorship-dnp-pledge?post_id=4840156#post_4840156
First, see above. Second, the intent is no different from belief and hence I will disregard it (also obligatory "good intentions pave the road to Hell", or if you want to go russian for this "bear's help"*, that is, misguided or misapplied good intentions result in _bad actions_).

^*The bear, harboring no malice to his villager friend, wanted to kill a fly that was pestering said sleeping villager friend. The fly landed on the friend's forehead, and the bear thusly caved his skull in along with killing the fly.^
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Edited by Barhandar
Barhandar
Perfect Pony Plot Provider - Uploader of 10+ images with 350 upvotes or more (Questionable/Explicit)
Friendship, Art, and Magic (2020) - Took part in the 2020 Community Collab
The Magic of Friendship Grows - For helping others attend the 2020 Community Collab
Dream Come True! - Participated in the MLP 9th Anniversary Event
Toola Roola - For helping others attend the 2019 Community Collab
Wallet After Summer Sale -
Friendship, Art, and Magic (2019) - Celebrated Derpibooru's seventh year anniversary with friends
A Tale For The Ages - Celebrated MLP's 35th Anniversary and FiM's 8th Anniversary
Friendship, Art, and Magic (2018) - Celebrated Derpibooru's six year anniversary with friends.
Helpful Owl - Drew someone's OC for the 2018 Community Collab

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"@Background Pony #C37A":/forums/meta/topics/the-anti-censorship-dnp-pledge?post_id=4840146#post_4840146
[bq]If you go after people's positions is that really better than the Twitter mobs?[/bq]Yes, again as described in the thread: the woke mobs go after people's positions for _unrelated, often long-past or perceived and vapid, transgressions_, this is about the staff's _actions AS staff_.
Comparing that is a bit dishonest, even - I feel it's similar to a fired _actually incompetent_ worker claiming they've got fired for being [insert protected group here] as opposed to _being incompetent_.
[bq]And another thing, we don't know the full context. People make mistakes.[/bq]"People" come clean, attempt fixing the consequences of the mistake, try to not repeat it again and apologize, yes, in that order, an apology is actually the least important part.
The head-staff have enforced this change silently and against other staff's opposition (I think I've mentioned my opinion on that - it's only done when you *KNOW* you are in the wrong but want to do something anyway hoping people won't notice), maintained radio silence since, got hid from the staff list (in two phases, even) while explicitly confirming they are going to remain in their positions, just as silently reverted the change to rule 5 (condensed as "don't portray nazism non-negatively") but kept the change to rule 0 and _very_ likely the unspoken-but-enforced BLM ruling.

I mean, people make mistakes. And the head-staff have made a _lot_ of mistakes in these past days, handling this in a way that is wrong and undermines their position. And having the full context cannot _excuse_ them at all, only _explain_ why they have done this. But yes, we genuinely do not know the full context and it is explicitly one of the issues people here, including myself, raise.
"@Background Pony #C37A":/forums/meta/topics/the-anti-censorship-dnp-pledge?post_id=4840156#post_4840156
First, see above. Second, the intent is no different from belief and hence I will disregard it (also obligatory "good intentions pave the road to Hell", or if you want to go russian for this "bear's help"*, that is, misguided or misapplied good intentions result in _bad actions_).

^*The bear, harboring no malice to his villager friend, wanted to kill a fly that was pestering said sleeping villager friend. The fly landed on the friend's forehead, and the bear thusly caved his skull in along with killing the fly.^
No reason given
Edited by Barhandar
Barhandar
Perfect Pony Plot Provider - Uploader of 10+ images with 350 upvotes or more (Questionable/Explicit)
Friendship, Art, and Magic (2020) - Took part in the 2020 Community Collab
The Magic of Friendship Grows - For helping others attend the 2020 Community Collab
Dream Come True! - Participated in the MLP 9th Anniversary Event
Toola Roola - For helping others attend the 2019 Community Collab
Wallet After Summer Sale -
Friendship, Art, and Magic (2019) - Celebrated Derpibooru's seventh year anniversary with friends
A Tale For The Ages - Celebrated MLP's 35th Anniversary and FiM's 8th Anniversary
Friendship, Art, and Magic (2018) - Celebrated Derpibooru's six year anniversary with friends.
Helpful Owl - Drew someone's OC for the 2018 Community Collab

(twi|pony)booru.org
"@Background Pony #C37A":/forums/meta/topics/the-anti-censorship-dnp-pledge?post_id=4840146#post_4840146
[bq]If you go after people's positions is that really better than the Twitter mobs?[/bq]Yes, again as described in the thread: the woke mobs go after people's positions for _unrelated, often long-past or perceived and vapid, transgressions_, this is about the staff's _actions AS staff_.
Comparing that is a bit dishonest, even - I feel it's similar to a fired _actually incompetent_ worker claiming they've got fired for being [insert protected group here] as opposed to _being incompetent_.
[bq]And another thing, we don't know the full context. People make mistakes.[/bq]"People" come clean, attempt fixing the consequences of the mistake, try to not repeat it again and apologize, yes, in that order, an apology is actually the least important part.
The head-staff have enforced this change silently and against other staff's opposition (I think I've mentioned my opinion on that - it's only done when you *KNOW* you are in the wrong but want to do something anyway hoping people won't notice), maintained radio silence since, got hid from the staff list while explicitly confirming they are going to remain in their positions, just as silently reverted the change to rule 5 (condensed as "don't portray nazism non-negatively") but kept the change to rule 0 and _very_ likely the unspoken-but-enforced BLM ruling.

I mean, people make mistakes. And the head-staff have made a _lot_ of mistakes in these past days, handling this in a way that is wrong and undermines their position. And having the full context cannot _excuse_ them at all, only _explain_ why they have done this. But yes, we genuinely do not know the full context and it is explicitly one of the issues people here, including myself, raise.
"@Background Pony #C37A":/forums/meta/topics/the-anti-censorship-dnp-pledge?post_id=4840156#post_4840156
First, see above. Second, the intent is no different from belief and hence I will disregard it (also obligatory "good intentions pave the road to Hell", or if you want to go russian for this "bear's help"*, that is, misguided or misapplied good intentions result in _bad actions_).

^*The bear, harboring no malice to his villager friend, wanted to kill a fly that was pestering said sleeping villager friend. The fly landed on the friend's forehead, and the bear thusly caved his skull in along with killing the fly.^
No reason given
Edited by Barhandar