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"@[==@Pony\_Prints\<3==]":(/forums/meta/topics/the-anti-censorship-dnp-pledge?post_id=4840094#post_4840094
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Name and shame _*is not an answer_*. Enacting petty revenge and seeking the feeling of vindication and justice-doing is not the point and _*undermines the point_*. They're also what motivates quite a few of extremists in USA today, including the rioters. Please do not become exactly like followers of the ideologies I oppose.
That
is, I completely disagree with your post and the _ridiculously_ counterproductive and useless idea of getting rid of certain beliefs (which is exactly what _censorship_ is trying to achieve, FYI), _branding_ people who hold it (as people below have said: that's no different from the jew badges and pink triangles), and preventing them from holding public power positions. This is how you get _blindsided_, because authoritarianism can disguise itself, and your post describes watching out for just one possible disguise - while also being authoritarian as fuck itself.

This is why I call only for the resignation for people who have _pushed the rule changes through_, and not the rest of mod staff; additionally, staff holding genuinely diverse beliefs keeps the site(s) healthy as long as they _do not try to enforce said beliefs on others_. Being pro-censorship *doesn't* make you unfit for staff role. _Trying to enforce censorship *does*_. Just like being a _literal_ nazi, or a communist, or a BLMer, or even a member of D

 
AESH (though extremists like those will have a lot of difficulty keeping themselves from not enforcing their extremist beliefs and so would be under quite a lot of scrutiny).


Also
, you kinda don't have power or support to make ultimatums, and "stating" something is meaningless because people can _*lie_*, or just wait long enough that supporters of certain thought (like "no censorship") leave or are otherwise too few in numbers.
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"@[==Pony_Prints<3==]":/forums/meta/topics/the-anti-censorship-dnp-pledge?post_id=4840094#post_4840094
Name and shame _is not an answer_. Enacting petty revenge and seeking the feeling of vindication and justice-doing is not the point and _undermines the point_. They're also what motivates quite a few of extremists in USA today, including the rioters. Please do not become exactly like followers of the ideologies I oppose.
That is, I completely disagree with your post and the _ridiculously_ counterproductive and useless idea of getting rid of certain beliefs (which is exactly what _censorship_ is trying to achieve, FYI), _branding_ people who hold it (as people below have said: that's no different from the jew badges and pink triangles), and preventing them from holding public power positions. This is how you get _blindsided_, because authoritarianism can disguise itself, and your post describes watching out for just one possible disguise - while also being authoritarian as fuck itself.

This is why I call only for the resignation for people who have _pushed the rule changes through_, and not the rest of mod staff; additionally, staff holding genuinely diverse beliefs keeps the site(s) healthy as long as they _do not try to enforce said beliefs on others_. Being pro-censorship *doesn't* make you unfit for staff role. _Trying to enforce censorship *does*_. Just like being a _literal_ nazi, or a communist, or a BLMer, or even a member of D
AESH (though extremists like those will have a lot of difficulty keeping themselves from not enforcing their extremist beliefs and so would be under quite a lot of scrutiny).


Also
, you kinda don't have power or support to make ultimatums, and "stating" something is meaningless because people can _lie_, or just wait long enough that supporters of certain thought (like "no censorship") leave or are otherwise too few in numbers.
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Edited by Barhandar
Barhandar
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Wallet After Summer Sale -
Friendship, Art, and Magic (2019) - Celebrated Derpibooru's seventh year anniversary with friends
A Tale For The Ages - Celebrated MLP's 35th Anniversary and FiM's 8th Anniversary
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"@[==Pony_Prints<3==]":/forums/meta/topics/the-anti-censorship-dnp-pledge?post_id=4840094#post_4840094
Name and shame _is not an answer_. Enacting petty revenge and seeking the feeling of vindication and justice-doing is not the point and _undermines the point_. They're also what motivates quite a few of extremists in USA today, including the rioters. Please do not become exactly like followers of the ideologies I oppose.

Also, you kinda don't have power or support to make ultimatums, and "stating" something is meaningless because people can _lie_, or just wait long enough that supporters of certain thought (like "no censorship") leave or are otherwise too few in numbers.
No reason given
Edited by Barhandar
Barhandar
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Toola Roola - For helping others attend the 2019 Community Collab
Wallet After Summer Sale -
Friendship, Art, and Magic (2019) - Celebrated Derpibooru's seventh year anniversary with friends
A Tale For The Ages - Celebrated MLP's 35th Anniversary and FiM's 8th Anniversary
Friendship, Art, and Magic (2018) - Celebrated Derpibooru's six year anniversary with friends.
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"@[==Pony_Prints<3==]":/forums/meta/topics/the-anti-censorship-dnp-pledge?post_id=4840094#post_4840094
Name and shame _is not an answer_. Enacting petty revenge and seeking the feeling of being vindicatedion and justice-doing is not the point and _undermines the point_. They're also what motivates quite a few of extremists in USA today, including the rioters. Please do not become exactly like followers of the ideologies I oppose.

Also, you kinda don't have power or support to make ultimatums.
No reason given
Edited by Barhandar
Barhandar
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Dream Come True! - Participated in the MLP 9th Anniversary Event
Toola Roola - For helping others attend the 2019 Community Collab
Wallet After Summer Sale -
Friendship, Art, and Magic (2019) - Celebrated Derpibooru's seventh year anniversary with friends
A Tale For The Ages - Celebrated MLP's 35th Anniversary and FiM's 8th Anniversary
Friendship, Art, and Magic (2018) - Celebrated Derpibooru's six year anniversary with friends.
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"@[==Pony_Prints<3==]":/forums/meta/topics/the-anti-censorship-dnp-pledge?post_id=4840094#post_4840094
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