Site Rules Rewrite

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Nothing has changed just don't act like a pillock it's not hard to understand and trolls are usually called out anyway so you will know if you are doing it, basically keep following the rules like always and you'll be fine.
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@catamaran
quality control is … quality control (no poorly drawn images)

don't POST racist 'anti- racist' crap is don't post stuff that's "support 'Us' were being oppressed"
or 'don't support THEM/This its/they racist' or 'X overcoming/fighting/resisting 'racist/bigoted' group Y because they don't offer X some Privellage they call a right'

its more meant for written stuff then images, but it still works.

I think that covers it.
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been muted 2 years ago for harmless post. can you pls teach me something about trolling so i won't get in trouble the next time?
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It's basic human respect and just following the rules as stated there isn't really anything to learn, I would maybe help you understand if I saw your posts but I have no way of identifying you from the other anons nor can I PM you.
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Nothing is different from the first draft of the new rules. What the fuck is even the point of this thread.
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The only rule I'd add is that the source URL should not point directly to a PNG/JPEG/GIF/etc. file, but to the page where the image is on. Exceptions could be allowed when there are no other choices (like, if the image was posted on imgur or similar).

If the image is on DeviantArt, then the source should point to the actual image page, not the artist's DA home page (like "artistname.deviantart.com").
So is there ever going to be a response as to why this won't make it into the rules? Even as just a guideline (i.e. "when possible, please…") it would be nice to have this spelled out somewhere.
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Rule #3 has been slightly reworded to clarify what templates we're referring to. I'm not going to add in a paragraph about staff opinion though, that's too much of a tangent.

@ArrJaySketch
Previous generation content is allowed. We don't really advertise that fact much considering this is a Gen 4/MLP:FiM website, but we generally don't take down Gen 1/2/3/3.5 content either unless it is way too disassociated or violates another site rule.

@Barhandar
The report page will be updated a bit too to reflect the new rules. Part of it is, since we're merging rules that are somewhat duplicate of one another, it should hopefully be a lot more obvious which rule is applicable.

@Ferrotter
The first sub-rule you reference is talking about bulk adding/removing a specific tag/set of tags to/from a large quantity of images. Some people have a tendency to think that a specific tag should/shouldn't exist, and then go around editing the tags for a large quantity of images to reflect that opinion.

Going around and bulk correcting tags, as in adding/removing different tags to/from images, is completely fine, as that's just improving accuracy.

@Mad Black
These things are judged on a case-by-case basis. We've tried writing specific rules/guidelines on this topic, but that has proven to be a rather difficult task. We want to allow as much content as legally possible, but stuff like this we just have to go by a layman's interpretation on if it's legal or if it has to be deleted.

@Background Pony #CA41
Rule #0 basically means nothing more than "don't be an asshole". We just can't officially word it like that. As long as you're not intentionally antagonizing people, you should be fine with Rule #0.

@Shadow Star
We don't ban "poorly drawn images", especially since that is entirely speculative and opinionated. What one person may think to be poorly drawn may seem to another person to be the best image they ever saw.

Quality control does exist in the form of upvotes/downvotes. You can filter images based on score (as in hiding images with a score less than zero, or less than -25, etc). So it's kinda like a form of community based quality control. But unless an image is actually violating a site rule (spam, troll/attack art, not pony related, etc), we're not going to delete it simply because it has too many downvotes.

@Background Pony #CA41
Calling OP autistic is not really a "harmless post"… Just sayin…

@dt
That's not true! There were several things added/changed from the original draft. For example, we added this to rule #2:

If an image is not adequately tagged or sourced, please correct them as necessary. Comments complaining about inadequate tagging or sourcing will be considered spam.

Just thought that one may be of interest to you :)
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Rule #3 has been slightly reworded to clarify what templates we're referring to. I'm not going to add in a paragraph about staff opinion though, that's too much of a tangent.


It still sounds like ALL memes are banned, which I'm sure is not your intent. There's also no mention of a grandfather clause.
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→ If you see images that contain themes you do not like, you should add the appropriate tags to your filter. Do not post comments complaining about the theme of the image.

This so much. I've seen countless threads where it's just needless complaining about what people don't like in the image or needlessly whining about OCs, all really just to get a rise out of the artist or commissioner.
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@Pagan
I'll be more than happy to do so at this point. It's just frustrating to be an artist willing to accept constructive criticism only to be met with 2-3 pages of people complaining about an OC design in a commission, meaning I have no control over it. If I designed an OC and asked for opinions on it, that's one thing, but otherwise is largely unnecessary. If someone feels the need to complain about OCs in general, the tag just needs to be blacklisted :P
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Rule #0 basically means nothing more than "don't be an asshole". We just can't officially word it like that. As long as you're not intentionally antagonizing people, you should be fine with Rule #0.

I'm pretty sure that's exactly what rule 0 says right now, and the wording can be as simple as "Don't be an asshole". But I wrote it as "Be excellent to each other" because I wanted to keep the rules a positive list of dos and don'ts, not a pre-emptive telling off. A guide and a somewhat more abstract direction and hope for the site, rather than a list of prohibitions. Of course, time passes and some more hard rules were needed but I would suggest that the new rules do lose that spirit — call it optimism if you like — the site was originally founded on the basis of.
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@MorphinBrony
It's worth noting that we do not really consider "(not) doing harmful things", "expression sheets", and similar to be memes, templates, etc. Those are more like drawing prompts/challenges. But I see your point, I'll try to find a way to word that into there without doubling the length of the rule or having to create a (quickly outdated) list of dos-and-donts.

@Clover the Clever
I can understand your point. After talking about it in IRC, I think we all agree it should start off on a slightly happier note. How's this sound?

This is the most important rule. Derpibooru is centered around MLP:FiM, which promotes friendship, caring, kindness, and understanding, and we reflect those values in our community to create an accepting and enjoyable environment for everyone.
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Pretty much anything can be a fetish, so doesn't that rule prohibit nearly every edit that hasn't been okayed directly by the artist? Or is it supposed to be mostly about fetishes that appeal to few, not stuff like adding/removing/altering lingerie, tattoos, tents/bulges/cameltoes, cropping to focus on legs and shoes? TBH I've always found that rule to be too damn vague.
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Also sometimes the number of duplicates of the same pictures with minimal changes exceeds all reasonable limits. Maybe group them somehow?
And the last suggestion — PLEASE, make the tags with character's names colored in another color than green (like artist tags and OC tags).
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You seem to be in the wrong thread. This thrad is not meant to discuss site functionality or feature suggestions.


@saby
I'm just gonna repeat what I said earlier:
If you want to be sure, ask the artist yourself. Then you're always on the safe side.

About the rule. As far as I know it mostly aims for certain fetishes that got edited quite a lot and that some artists got pretty damn pissed about when they found out. (futa, diapers, scat, …)
But I can't read any artist's mind. I have no idea which one allows what. And as soon as the original artist dislikes it and reports it it's gone anyway, not matter how you interpret that rule.
And the worst thing is sometimes they react really badly and have us delete all their stuff because of a couple fetish edits.
Which brings me back to my original statement: Please, just ask them.
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This.

If you want to make an edit and the artist doesn't say okay? Don't post it here. Keep it to yourself, or post it somewhere that lets you be kind of a dick like that.
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