Policy update regarding AI content

Ciaran
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@truekry
If you can show us ‘started with this’ -> ‘a few steps in your process’ -> ‘before final post processing’ that can be really helpful.
I did every time someone reports me because he doesn’t like AI, etc…
Please drop the snarkiness. People don’t have to “doesn’t like AI” to report janky images with ai artifacts - a lot of those reports come from people making AI themselves.
GullveigAI

@Ciaran
You do realise that it was I who asked these similar question. Like I said i read these post. I read https://derpibooru.org/forums/meta/topics/policy-update-regarding-ai-content
i read https://derpibooru.org/pages/aiquality . But I do not understand where you draw the line. This is why I’m asking. Like I said the last link only goes into detail about the quality of these new rules but not when does inpainting things become “large number” of inpainting. And I do not need help with creating images. I meant from my uploaded images I do not know if these count or not.
And even if I knew. I can’t poof 90% of my upload as I’m not saving my txt2img and img2img folder if they are not longer needed. I can tell you what I did, but the older the image the less I know.
I think we are talking past each other. Like, I ask five specific question but only got a single general answer that does explain anything to me personally.
Like I said earlier I also haven’t understood the tag ai assisted before so I just omitted it in the tags. But now you need the new AI composition tag and I genuinely do not understand it in the edge cases. Like I understand the obvious part of that. (via using AI to finalise sketches (not stick figures).
This is why I asked if you could do another FAQ what counts as AI composition.
Ciaran
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edge cases
This thread is for answering questions about the policy change, and helping the community in general rather than providing detailed personal guidance.
Edge cases are things that fall outside the normal or expected or ‘general’ case and are not appropriate to go into in this thread. If you want to discuss specific edge cases then please upload an example, or use an existing image on the site, and come to our Support queue on Discord which will be a much better forum for an in-depth discussion of your edge cases.
what counts as AI composition
If the description on the tag, and the examples we’ve provided of what is not ai composition are not helpful, then if you reconsider your decision to leave the site and never upload any more images here, please submit a preview of your image on our Support or AI forums on our Discord server to make sure you’re tagging it properly, and so that we can talk to you on a personal level about your questions.
GullveigAI

then if you reconsider your decision to leave the site and never upload any more images here
I already did. 4 days ago. I was using these last days to remove every like and upvote I made. This is not a form of protest or to make a statement of the likes. I already made up my mind. I was just asking to understand if any of my already uploaded imaged would count. This is also the reason i do not want to be on the tantabus.ai. I really do not know why you have to be so hostile toward me.
Ciaran
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@GullveigAI
If you would like, we can do that for you with a click of a button. Just report yourself for a reason of ‘other’ and say you’d like wipe.
I really do not know why you have to be so hostile toward me.
I do not feel that I have been hostile toward you. Instead, I feel like I’m being as patient with your questions as I can be, while keeping this thread on topic and focusing on helping the community in general as much as I am able with my answers. Given you feel my answers are hostile to you I’ll stop helping you and someone else on staff can if they want.
ChangelingsGangBangedMyMom

Pony/Changeling Hyrbrid
First of all, a big thank you to the Derpi staff for taking the time and trouble to create a separate site for MLP Ai Generated images, instead of just dropping the total ban hammer. If Ai stuff is creating that much of an extra workload for them here, then this is probably the best and fairest workaround.
Honestly, let’s face it: G4 is done. And G5 is isn’t drawing the same wide audience. Chances are Hasbro won’t continue it for much longer. Which means we probably won’t ever see a G6 either.
This also means the amount and quality of MLP art will slowly but steadily decline. Higher level / professional artists will move onto other more popular and profitable subjects, and we’ll see less and less of good traditional / digital MLP art as time goes on. Which means uploads to Derpi will probably slowly wind down in quality. We’ll eventually see a lot less high quality images, and instead see a lot more screenshots/screenshot edits, basic drawings, copies, and only the occasional solid commission work or animation.
Ai is currently probably, what? 20-25% of the current uploads. Right or wrong, love it or hate it, a lot of the fandom will continue to move to generating their own MLP images in the future.
It will be interesting to see, a year from now, which site is generating more traffic.
Anyway, for all you, Ai prompters, or traditional / digital artists, whatever the medium, cheers to you for keeping Pony alive, on either site!
The Frowning Pony

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Folks, please. I know this is something a lot are pretty passionate about, but please…

Because I expect someone to post another comment on the matter given the most recent comments, please note that there is a stark difference between comments like:
Yay, I like this!
Boo, this is a bad idea!
and
Good, aibros should just be banned forever!
Twitter luddites are just scared and greedy!
The former two are not an issue; the latter two are, and get deleted from the thread. Attempts at discussing why that is or why only “my side’s!” comments are being affected (which they aren’t) will also get deleted.
Polyacov_Yury

Question. (Not advocating for SlopGens’ rights, just curious)
If the comic’s panels were fully AI generated, but the speech bubbles’ contents (or bubbles themself plus their contents) were filled in by a human - is that still allowed?
If I am reading the text of the post correctly - no. If I’ve read between the lines correctly - should be.
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Échale vampiro
Sorry if this was already answered, but what about music covers made with AI, for example mine 3160831, AI was used to make the music cover but I edited (even if badly) the video with EQG clips.
Analytical Mind

The Critical Author
Can any moderators, admins, or whoever in charge or know tell me how I could delete my own AI images?
I already uploaded and expanded those on Tantabus and want to erase the one over here?
This might come off as a bit off topic, but the reason I uploaded those images in the first place because it’s easy to link up to my story.
So if there was a site purely made for those kind of images (AI)? Then sure, no problem, I don’t see why some people might be angry about this new policy.
The Frowning Pony

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@DTavs.Exe
We’re not really looking at uses in audio, and even for AI audio on an AI image (of which there are only a handful examples at the moment) we’d consider if the lyrics/dialogue are original.
Your example won’t be affected.
@Polyacov_Yury
If someone’s just slapping two basic ai gens next to each other and adding some text bubbles, then no. If the images are properly flawless and don’t have continuity errors (eg. different shirt types between panels) and there’s enough reason to believe the panels aren’t effectively just random images pasted together, then we’ll go considering on a case by case basis.
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Is there a separate thread for the migration script so debugging and help requests for that don’t get buried here? If not, should I make one?
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@GullveigAI
I think I understand what you mean, GullveigAI. Please correct me if I’m wrong. I’ll try to explain below:
@Ciaran
Typical examples of ai composition are well described, but boundaries are somewhat blurry. I think by “edge cases” GullveigAI meant not atypical cases, but boundary cases and I think images that are near the boundary might actually be somewhat common. Let me explain:
From policies, tag descriptions, etc. it’s pretty clear that ai composition requires:
  • No obvious errors/artifacts.
  • There must be some editing done, raw generator output doesn’t count even if flawless.
  • Minor editing like only removing ghost signatures doesn’t count.
  • Art where someone imagined a scene in their head, recreated it by pasting image bits and pieces together, and then ran img2img on it counts as ai composition.
However more serious AI people seem to have a workflow like generating images, picking the best one and editing it to remove artifacts and align it with their artistic vision. At this point a question arises: “I did some editing, is this enough to qualify for ai composition?” It would be good to have a guide with examples for that, just like there’s a guide for quality. If someone generates a background, edits it by pasting a tree from another generated image and then pastes a generated character on top, does it count? It’s this type of questions that people have. I know that it’s not possible to unambiguously define a razor-thin boundary, but a guide would at least lessen the fog of war somewhat.
The Frowning Pony

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I worked on that for about 10 minutes all in all. I would not count that as being enough for ai composition, as the changes are fairly trivial. Something that’s, say 2-3 times more steps put in, adds a character, details, or background, outpaint to give context, etc… then that’s where we get to ai composition territory.

Objectively it really isn’t any more possible for us to determine if someone got really lucky with a good gen and just needed to do some minor cleanup or if they put in hours of work in, not any more than we can tell if someone copy-pasted some 14 year old furry art and traced over it or found some pixiv artist’s deleted stash and slapped their own signature on it.
Most cases will be pretty quick to see just because of the quality guidelines; for the rest, we’re trusting that people will try to be honest with others and with themselves about how much they value their own work and effort. People should want to put “some of themselves” into what they create, learn from the process, feel some pride. And just not lie to others, or themselves.
For the ones that don’t care about all that, well, that’s unfortunate. It’d weigh on me, I’m sure it’d weigh on most people.

Edit: Something like this is essentially what we see as an example ai composition image; the type of changes are similar overall, but they’re comfortably more in-depth and deviate from the initial “inspiration”.
Ipickamooondog

Banning AI is not political. It is their choice to not support AI or the “artists” who goof around in it as opposed to actual artists who posses real talent. AI has lowered the bar in so many creative fields it’s pathetic. You think you can create a beautiful, unique piece of art using AI? So can ANY other dung chucker in the world.
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