I think it’s worth noting that basically every country on the planet is an ethnostate except for a small handful of nations. Of the nations with european heritage who are multi-racial, these changes to being multi-racial happened extremely recently in history. For the US, it started with the changes to the 1965 immigration act.
Ethnostates are the norm. We expect to find Japanese people in Japan, Chinese people, in China, Nigerians in Nigeria, and so on.
The word Nation is related to the word Natal. Natal means birth. Nations are collections of people who are distantly related.
Close genetic relations are one of the only ways for large groups of individual creatures in the animal kingdom to be able to live co-operatively with each other. It’s the only way that Bee hives can co-operate, for example. They’re all siblings. Humans still only have instincts that program us for living in tribes of around 110 people and making war on other competing tribes. Anything that diverges from this pattern is something we have to work to teach and maintain.
I think that when evaluating ideas, it is useful to try to see what the merits might be. When checking for merits (how closely aligned the idea is with Truth, the way the world works), it is useful to look at how things have worked for uncountable years throughout history. Shallow, nice-sounding ideals might make you feel good, but you need to try to connect it with the truth at some point. Understand what’s being risked if you do so. Utopian ideology has killed an unbelievable amount of people over the last century. It has also destroyed many systems that were working quite well. It destroyed them because they weren’t working as well as a hypothetical perfect ideal would work.
If you’re going to conflate the idea of ethnonationalism with neo-nazis, then realize that most of the planet (notably, the places OUTSIDE where you’re probably posting this from) would count as non-white neo-nazis. This is a silly idea. With all due respect, if you’re going to make that conflation, I don’t think you’re intelligent enough to be worth listening to.
Before you start frothing at the mouth with having your cognitive dissonance highlighted, I’ll state clearly that I am not any flavour of national Socialist. If I’m reading the site ruling I posted on the 13th correctly, that means that it would be an offence to try to categorize me like that. Trying to move the conversation to this instead of discussing the ideas that were brought up is disingenuous. You’re doing that because on some level you know you can’t address these ideas. Therefore you’re trying to use verbal trickery to put someone on the defensive and change the subject.
Constantly re-framing the discussion to get people to stop talking about the ideas and spend the whole conversation saying “No! I’m not one of (insert maligned group here)!” is losing it’s effectiveness as people are catching on. People don’t care about your deflections anymore. Anyone who chooses to stick to the point and ignore the worthless allegations being thrown around as a smokescreen is scary, since the closest thing to a counter-argument people have against them has stopped being useful.
I’ve gone out of my way to search for conversations and debates with wrongthinkers over the years. It’s been very educational, and I’ve learned a think or two about how they generally go. I’ve also managed to un-learn some of the stupid pre-conceptions about certain keywords that I never actually realized I had.
I highly recommend it. It’s extremely educational, in that it helps how you think and evaluate information rather than just telling you what to think.