New AI Policy

Thank you! <3

Honestly good to know

It was getting out of hand…
Good job team! =)

A moderator had a meltdown at fimfiction even though he could be civil upon hearing these two letters. For a PSA he’s not being objective in it.

@Background Pony #F4B6
Sir, this is a Derpibooru

@Background Pony #F4B6
Is some shitstorm happened? I’d need a link.

@Background Pony #011E
https://www.fimfiction.net/blog/1014351/psa-using-ais-to-write-and-publish-stories-in-fimfiction

@Background Pony #F4B6
Thanks!

This isn’t a thread about other sites…

@LightningBolt
It’s about the AI policy yes?

@Background Pony #F4B6
It’s about Derpibooru’s AI policy

Yes, for DERPIBOORU’S AI policy, not FiMFiction’s.

@Background Pony #F4B6
Yes… for Derpibooru, not FiMFiction.

Thread’s gone quiet but I have a curious question:

How come I can see the spoiler image for comments on images tagged by Stable Diffusion, since that tag is currently hidden on my filter? Is it because I have ai content and ai generated spoilered?

Just wondering if it’s only the case with this hidden tag. This hasn’t happened with any others for me. 🤔

@☬ ᏝᏆᏁᏨᎾᏝᏁᏰᏒᎬᎳᏕᎿᎬᏒᎱᎯᏁ ☬
Your filter seems to be working normally, at least for searches. I couldn’t find an example of a comment that matches your description - could you please give me a link to one so I can do some science?

@Ciaran
Sure :)

Evidence:

Uhm … ok, let me see if I’m describing this back correctly.

Your filter is appropriately hiding or spoilering generator:stable diffusion.

Ah. But normally when tags are hidden they don’t even show in searches for comments.

Ah, again. Double ah - You’ve got TWO tags SPOILERED on that image, and TWO tags HIDDEN.

When I make two tags SPOILERED and two HIDDEN on an image, and the tags are NOT AI related, then the image simply … huh … I still see the comment but the preview of the image is blank.

And if I make any two tags that have spoiler placeholders SPOILERED and two tags that have hidden placeholders HIDDEN, then I can find comments on that image, but the ‘spoilered’ image shows as ‘Hidden’.

By contrast, if there were any other two green tags spoilered, followed by any other two green tags hidden, none of which have any kind of placemarkers when they are spoilered or hidden, then you’d still see the comment but the image would just be blank because there’s no spoiler image for it.

So … it appears that you’re seeing the ‘Hidden’ marker because:

Now that I’ve reproduced what’s happening, I honestly am not sure what is supposed to happen.

You are searching for ‘comments’, but normally if there’s a hit and only one hidden tag on the image is hidden, then the comment doesn’t show up.

But if you search for the same ‘comments’ and there’s a complex set of spoilered and hidden tags, then the results are less deterministic.

Not sure if bug, ‘broken as implemented’, or just a weird edge case with no expected behavior except ‘try to not show image’.

It doesn’t seem to have anything to do with the images being ai *, but instead seems to be an artifact of how we handle complex filtering situations.

Maybe time to move this to the Site Bugs thread?

@Ciaran
Thank you for your analysis Ciaran :D I’ve only never seen something like that happen before :o

If you would be so kind to move it to the Bug Thread, I’d appreciate it - or I can just share it there with your thoughts.

Just wanted to give you first preference, since you really broke it down well :)

@☬ ᏝᏆᏁᏨᎾᏝᏁᏰᏒᎬᎳᏕᎿᎬᏒᎱᎯᏁ ☬
You can link to the discussion here, but I don’t have time to present this as a bug. Sorry.

@Ciaran
That’s alright :) thank you :)

@☬ ᏝᏆᏁᏨᎾᏝᏁᏰᏒᎬᎳᏕᎿᎬᏒᎱᎯᏁ ☬
Posted.

It’s very much disappointing that AI assisted is still an allowed tag, as it still continues to engage with and grant legitimacy to the market entirely driven by rampant IP theft and a complete lack of ethics. But, at least I’ll give props for addressing the absolute plague that I encountered when I last got on Derpibooru where 80+% of my front page and watch list was this total shambles.

@MidnightSurf
Is it possible you are confusing the ai assisted tag with ai generated? ai assisted images mean there has been significant amount of manual editing, or when only a minor portion of the image was edited by AI. If not, and you see AI assisted images as being more of a problem than AI generated images, what are your ethical concerns with people using AI to assist their art?

@MidnightSurf
Fair use is not IP theft just because you think it is.

@LemonDrop
We’re not starting this debate again.