New AI Policy

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That’s why I love it. The failures are more interesting than the successes.
  1. Does the intentionality behind the prompt really matter? If a “happy accident” and deliberate fishing for surrealism have the same outcome, what impact do outside circumstances have?
  2. The way your answer is worded implies the policy only applies to new ML images. Correct?
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That’s why I love it. The failures are more interesting than the successes.
I agree with that. It’s kinda meh when AI produces good images, we already have plenty of artists who may do the same and even better. But in case of AI abominations, it’s kinda special to AI. No human artists produces so many pictures in genre “nasty mutants trying to be cute and sexy”, plus each such piece is kinda unique and not related to any other. Looking at such things is just… funny. So banning it is like banning memes.
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  1. Intentionality of upload, perhaps; there’s too much that gets uploaded that’s cronenbergs with perfect DDs, and the tits or whatever are all the uploader cared about
  2. The older abominations should be fine, “learning process” and initial hilarity of the stuff. There were bouts of spam, especially during the April fools’ event, that’ll get whittled down (for example, someone dumped 150ish “this pony does not exist” images with zero curation and loads of aberrations just to farm points for NLR, and several streaks of really bad SD “x pony standing” from others that look like half-melted ice cream)
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I like that Derpi moved away from the “machine learning” terminology, because while probably more precise, it just felt pedantic when everybody else calls it AI. Prompter/generator tagging is also good.
I’m struggling with the Rule 3 changes though. As weird as AI mistakes can be, it doesn’t sit well with me that AI is held to a higher standard than other images. If you’re just trying to avoid floods of low-quality AI images, shouldn’t the upload limit mostly handle that? It just feels arbitrary, especially when AI art can look decent even if it has a subtle disqualifier. Plus, I never felt like we only kept the “best of the best” screencaps when stuff like this exists.
Also, having “-ai generated” in trending images is kinda annoying when I already have that filtered.
My personal take is that I don’t really care how Derpi handles AI art since I have it filtered, but if it starts having a clear impact on commission artists (I haven’t seen any but maybe it has?), it should be banned (generated definitely, assisted maybe case by case) to discourage would-be commissioners by denying them the ability to share their pictures here.
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Thank you - I’ve written a series of steps that I’m turning into a white paper for using alternative sites. I’ll post that … not sure where … sometime this weekend. Maybe here in this forum?
@runner2
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. But, wow, doing that on one instance seems like a lot of work when compared to just having a separate site. Hopefully people will fine the e621 version useful, and can just link to things there when necessary and appropriate.
@Jewellier
Thank you for your input. Please note that these are just my opinion and my read on the current policy. And I will defer to someone actually on the tagging side of the team if they disagree, because this loose canon is on their side of the deck.
  1. >>2947191 absolutely would just be artist:*. Personally I believe the inclusion of the ai generated image in the actual upload is incidental for tagging, but I can see that example becoming a bit of a tagging battle ground sometime in the future. That’s a good example for more discussion about when included images HAVE to be tagged. If the artist tagged this as ai assisted then it wouldn’t be incorrect, and might help avoid drama.
  2. >>3037969 Same as 1.
  3. >>3068561 I think ai assisted is right for this image. As is the presence of an artist:* tag. If the artist (you) didn’t tag it as such, then there probably will be some people finding it who do not want to see even ai generated backgrounds, resulting in needless drama, REEEs, and etc.
4. >>3117630 Shouldn’t this be ai generated? Multiple generation passes, in- and outpainting, minor edits to an AI-made image…yeah. I believe this should be ai generated.

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UPDATE: After looking at this more and talking with others on the team, I made a mistake. This is definitely what we intend ai assisted to cover. So:
  1. >>3117630 This is ai assisted. The amount of inpainting required to get this result would take hours, and should ALSO have an artist:* tag. In this regard, this image will be treated on this site as ‘a uniquely copyrightable work of art’. It will be subject to Rule #1, can be taken down by the artist, is subject to DNPs, and can earn both the artist and the uploader badges. We understand this will not perfectly match legal statutes around the planet, but we want to respect human artists putting this much energy and time into their works. And with this image, the tools are ‘assistants’, and the artist is key.
Good examples. Please consider using the >>[ID]s format for things like this in the future. People will still be able to open your examples in new images, and the overall prose will be significantly easier to access. Especially on small screens.
@runner2
I really feel like this is getting off topic and should go to its own thread, please.
what’s the filter syntax for hiding tags with variables? I want to kill every prompter: (whoever) tag alongside every other garbage AI image.
Your filter should be working as you currently have it, but … man, that’s a lot of ORs. Philomena is significantly more capable, but you’ve got a chunk of basically “OR hell” in a very high-rise kind of code going on in your complex filter.
It might help make sure things don’t get all wibbly wobbly, and will definitely help with debugging, if you take the
|| prompter:*
and move it to an entirely new line in your complex filter, thus:
(prompter:*)
But, that only works if there’s a prompter tagged. Because we haven’t migrated all the various tagging methods people have been using during the interregnum (the actual policy doesn’t come online for a couple of days yet) for now I think the following will catch what you want to catch:
(ai content)
That will remove anything even remotely associated with AI from your results.
It can get a lot trickier, if you are trying to see things that only had AI assistance where an actual artist was involved - send me a PM if you want help plunging down that rabbit hole.
Also anything with a prompter: tag should imply ai content and ai generated.
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Good point. None of them currently do, but maybe they should.
-Craft-
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@R-tex1241
It’s also to encourage people to learn and work on more involved forms of using AI tools, such as using base sketches/photos/renders, extensive in/outpainting, and external editing, which results in the image being “something a person made with help from AI tools”, i.e. “ai assisted” + artist tag.
are you sure? because the description of the tag as written seems to imply that no amount of base sketch, in/outpainting or external editing will matter. all of those things are listed as falling under ‘ai generated’
‘Images where a significant portion, or the whole, of the image was created by an AI. This includes multiple generation passes, in- and outpainting, minor edits to an AI-made image, or img2img-like “recreations” of a basic sketch, photo, or other prior image.’
I spent 4 hours on an image this morning, took it through photoshop 9 times, had to dust off my tablet so I could use a photo reference to draw the hand (still poorly) myself, added a cutiemark by hand, redrew most of the eye and had 165 steps of inpainting mostly correcting various small errors like errant lines and ghost colors but also correcting three limbs that were mangled to the point of requiring total replacement. rules as written seem to imply that none of that matters, it’s ai generated. am I wrong?

also as a general aside regarding the upload limit being per uploader and per prompter, a number of my images have been uploaded by other people after they were posted in various places. I never uploaded them here personally because personally I never really considered them finished, a possible concern of the ‘per prompter’ limit is that I am discouraged from properly labeling those images or from letting people know they’re mine because I might get dinged if someone unknowing to me had already uploaded 1 or 2 things of mine that day. now I can’t imagine this is a problem that will come up often, but I thought I’d mention it. There’s only about a half dozen of them that I know about.
I also don’t particularly like ‘prompter’ for such images because it is literally impossible to prompt any of the images I have ever uploaded to derpi, they’re all edited, every one. editor made sense. even those ones that I didn’t upload went through some level of editing, frankly its the editing part that I enjoy in the whole process. I haven’t changed my prompt since December. Prompter makes sense for deterministic results like we see from base unedited v4, nai, midjourney, etc. Perhaps that’s just too granular for practical use though.
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I’m struggling with the Rule 3 changes though. As weird as AI mistakes can be, it doesn’t sit well with me that AI is held to a higher standard than other images.
It’s actually going to be treated the same as other images ‘in their class’.
If you’re just trying to avoid floods of low-quality AI images, shouldn’t the upload limit mostly handle that?
No, because we don’t want low-quality screencaps.
Plus, I never felt like we only kept the “best of the best” screencaps when stuff like this exists.
That’s … that’s just 250 images, going back 11 years. Some of those, like >>120084, are images from the fandom.
Sure, some of those definitely are low quality, but just taking a shotgun look through them the ones I looked at all seemed to either be from the show, or showing something of interest to the fandom. We could go through those one-by-one, but some of those are ‘wow, that actually happened’ grade images that I don’t think we would ever Rule #3.
If you would like to filter those, you can add this to your complex filter:
(picture of a screen, screencap)
Or, you’re welcome to report them and we can put them through the review process that we have. But only a couple at a time please. They really are extremely low-priority.
Also, having “-ai generated” in trending images is kinda annoying when I already have that filtered.
Hmmm. Why is that annoying?
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Pixel Perfection - I still call her Lightning Bolt
Silly Pony - Celebrated the 13th anniversary of MLP:FIM, and 40 years of MLP!
Shimmering Smile - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of Equestria Girls!
Solar Hero - Went above and beyond for the Solar Deity, drawing from the power of the sun itself to bring balance to the fight against the Lunar Insurrection (April Fools 2023).
Roseluck - Had their OC in the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.
Flower Trio - Helped others get their OC into the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.
King Sombra - Celebrated the 10th anniversary of The Crystal Empire!
A Lovely Nightmare Night - Celebrated the 12th anniversary of MLP:FIM!
Princess of Love - Extra special version for those who participated in the Canterlot Wedding 10th anniversary event by contributing art.
Tree of Harmony - Drew someone's OC for the 2022 Community Collab

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@-Craft-
Yes I’m sure.

Difference between AI Generated and AI Assisted

These tags are exclusive to each other. AI Generated images have been created by an AI / Machine Learning Algorithm and have no editing, or only minor editing, such as fixing small errors like removing extra nostrils.
AI Assisted images use AI as a part of the creative process combined with significant human artistic input. This can mean things like using AI models to apply colours to hand-drawn lineart, using AI generated imagery for background elements, or adding AI voices to a human-created animation. AI Assisted also applies to images that originate as AI Generated, but have been extensively edited by a human by means such as heavy inpainting, manually painting over, tracing the artist’s own lineart, and/or combining elements from different AI generated images; essentially, where hours of manual work have been put into creating the image, rather than just hitting “generate” until the AI creates something “good enough”.
The wording on the tag can be amended. The intention is that someone inpainting a busted hand or outpainting to get a different background a couple times doesn’t suddenly “bump it up”. Similar with a base sketch; I’ve seen (and used myself) stick figure drawings as a base sketch to set up a basic pose; obviously a full-on drawing as a sketch would be different.
As for other people uploading, it can happen, and if it’s not seen as intentional fine. What we don’t want is people in a discord channel going “let’s flood the site with AI, fuck those cretins!” and working out some dumb puerile loophole.
Not that or the prompter: tag would even apply to your case, given, afaict, the majority of the stuff you’ve made is ai assisted and should have an artist tag, anyway.

It would be swell if everyone on both sides of this whole thing weren’t constantly fondling their daggers’ hilts and assuming the most nefarious intentions.
-Craft-
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@The Smiling Pony
I’m sorry, I’ve been told that I have a habit of wording things in more confrontational tones then I intend, there are no daggers today I’m simply trying to figure out something I’m obviously struggling with.
I understand the fear of an organized attack. It’s just, well, from my point of view if there was a ‘loophole’ for that I just don’t think anyone would freeze up and say ‘oh no, they have us on a technicality!’ I would just expect actionable steps to be taken in that unique circumstances, I personally wouldn’t understand someone who was angry if the staff behaved mildly extra-judicously in a circumstance where the site was literally under organized attack.
perhaps it is my biased perspective but the prevailing opinion I’ve seen amongst the ai pony discord is that spammers who dump same-ish content are a bad thing because they make us look bad, most people there would prefer if users acted with restraint, the upload limit is the part that’s probably the most well received of all the changes for that reason. Hell, I like the per person limit for that reason, I’m just spitballing a minor concern, as I said its only happened a half dozen times.
as for your comments re the prompter tag, thank you that is flattering but to be 100% honest I’m not entirely sure what your relationship with the staff is, you seem ‘staff adjacent’, but that’s not a can of worms I’d want to open while being unsure.
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@R-tex1241
Thank you - that is a great example. I’ve changed it to an onsite link so people can follow the preview to the actual image (also people’s filters will work).
I think the best way to answer your question is to spend some time with staff and figure out how we would recommend tagging that image assuming the existing proposal goes live.
That will take some time though - we’re not all here at the same time, so I’ll propose the question to the team, and then over the course of the next day we should have something like a ‘final result’ of tags.
Hopefully that will be a better way to answer your question, and the details of that process might help us find any loose nuts and bolts in the proposal.
Ada
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The only thing I disagree with is keeping them out of trending entirely. It was already hard enough to get any such image trending, needing like 5x the score of non such images to compete. I feel like trending should be just exactly that, what people of the fandom are viewing / upvoting. If a image looks pretty I will like it and want a site that is supposed to be dedicated to the fandom above all else to show me more like it, no matter what tool was used or who made it instead of taking some sort of stance on what they consider are acceptable tools to be used to generate said content. Hell, in the inevitable future of AGI I wont care if a human was involved in the process at all if it looks nice / adds content the slowly dying fandom otherwise lacks.
Also, to further unendear myself I feel like the poor quality rule should be applied no matter what tools you use to make the artwork, but that makes me not a nice person.
Ciaran
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Crystal Roseluck - Had their OC in the 2023 Derpibooru Collab.
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Tree of Harmony - Drew someone's OC for the 2022 Community Collab

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@R-tex1241
Right now, after just a little discussion on the team, I believe the answer is:
ai generated, prompter:*
We’re talking about whether the editor tag is appropriate, given that we can’t see what the actual edit was other than the addition of the original screencap from the show. Can you please PM me what you feel was the portion of the work that went into the editor tag? That might help us figure it out :)
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