TexasUberAlles 
@Keith Mowz
Yeah, a new filter seems like the simplest way to get the same effect without having to recode anything.
Yeah, a new filter seems like the simplest way to get the same effect without having to recode anything.
Feature suggestions and discussion [READ THE FIRST POST]
Joey 
PM me your cute OCs
@TexasUberAlles
@Keith Mowz
There can be some advantages to having multiple watchlists. Keep in mind that watching in inclusive, while filters are exclusive.
When you’re talking just in terms of ratings, it’s pretty simple to do that with filters, as you can have filters excluding the ratings you don’t want to see. This works very well because every image is required to have a rating tag, there’s only a small number of ratings tags (seven, to be exact), and images generally have only one (occasionally two, rarely three) rating tags. So you can use filters to exclude the rating tags you don’t want to see very easily.
However, it becomes a lot more complicate when you want to see images based on things other than ratings. For example, say you want the following watch lists:
@Keith Mowz
There can be some advantages to having multiple watchlists. Keep in mind that watching in inclusive, while filters are exclusive.
When you’re talking just in terms of ratings, it’s pretty simple to do that with filters, as you can have filters excluding the ratings you don’t want to see. This works very well because every image is required to have a rating tag, there’s only a small number of ratings tags (seven, to be exact), and images generally have only one (occasionally two, rarely three) rating tags. So you can use filters to exclude the rating tags you don’t want to see very easily.
However, it becomes a lot more complicate when you want to see images based on things other than ratings. For example, say you want the following watch lists:
- Images made by your favorite artists
- Images that contain one or more of your fetishes
- Images that contain your favorite background ponies
Such sets would be more or less impossible to do with filters, as you can’t just exclude everything that doesn’t match what you want to see. You’d need something that includes what you want to see, instead of excludes what you don’t want to see.
Exedrus 
@Joey
>”…you can’t just exclude everything that doesn’t match what you want to see.”
Maybe I’m thinking a bit too literally, but couldn’t you? I mean create a complex filter:
>”…you can’t just exclude everything that doesn’t match what you want to see.”
Maybe I’m thinking a bit too literally, but couldn’t you? I mean create a complex filter:
-(myfetish1 || myfetish2 || myfetish3 || artist:someone || artist:someoneelse || fav pony 1 || fav pony 2 || … )
This would basically be a “white list” as it will filter out anything that isn’t or’d into that list. Tho its usage is a bit rough to say the least…
Wesley Foxx
The Fluffiest
@Joey
Again, I don’t see why you’d need that. Unless you’re just watching so many things you can’t keep up at all, in which case having multiple watch lists really isn’t going to help.
Would it be so you can curate a watchlist that you can share with other people? That might be something that would have some potential use to a couple people maybe, making some assumptions.
Again, I don’t see why you’d need that. Unless you’re just watching so many things you can’t keep up at all, in which case having multiple watch lists really isn’t going to help.
Would it be so you can curate a watchlist that you can share with other people? That might be something that would have some potential use to a couple people maybe, making some assumptions.
toxicitzi 
@Keith Mowz
it could help if you want to separate humor from beautiful art, from cute art, from porn, Etc.
if this isn’t a thing you would see yourself using, you shouldn’t say no one would use it and the phrase, don’t knock it till you tried it.. This solution you suggested earlier is about as complicated as it gets, imagine from my position that I would want to spoiler/hide everything in my watchlist except X, Y, Z and so on, not to mention, everytime I would add one thing in either of the Filters, I’d have to update every single one of them consistently, plus, even with going through all that effort it would still be for naught, because Filters don’t work like that. Once you hide something that you have in your watch list (which I’m not even sure if you can both hide and watch a tag at the same time), you still see it. That in essence, is the problem with your sollution, my idea is for those who want a smarter way of storing their watched images and a structure for them to avoid clutter, to completely exclude certain watched tags out of being found together with others.
and there can be many positive reasons for it. Clutter avoids unnecessary browsing through more pages, it even helps people with limited internet access, as there’s less images to load per page. Honestly, it might not seem like the most useful feature to add right now, but it might be a lot more help for some people than you think.
it could help if you want to separate humor from beautiful art, from cute art, from porn, Etc.
if this isn’t a thing you would see yourself using, you shouldn’t say no one would use it and the phrase, don’t knock it till you tried it.. This solution you suggested earlier is about as complicated as it gets, imagine from my position that I would want to spoiler/hide everything in my watchlist except X, Y, Z and so on, not to mention, everytime I would add one thing in either of the Filters, I’d have to update every single one of them consistently, plus, even with going through all that effort it would still be for naught, because Filters don’t work like that. Once you hide something that you have in your watch list (which I’m not even sure if you can both hide and watch a tag at the same time), you still see it. That in essence, is the problem with your sollution, my idea is for those who want a smarter way of storing their watched images and a structure for them to avoid clutter, to completely exclude certain watched tags out of being found together with others.
and there can be many positive reasons for it. Clutter avoids unnecessary browsing through more pages, it even helps people with limited internet access, as there’s less images to load per page. Honestly, it might not seem like the most useful feature to add right now, but it might be a lot more help for some people than you think.
GyroTech 
The Prettiest Catbird
I think everything you’re looking for could be solved with a couple whitelist complex filters. I certainly do the same when I’m browsing favourites in certain moods.
atalarikt
EqG fan + Love Liver
A very cute EqG picture, please?
And by that, I don’t mean Flash Sentry, an EqG character, in his pony form.
Sorry if this has been suggested before, there are 75 pages here, and I’m too lazy to check out all of them. But seriously please, don’t ban me even if only for 12 hours.
And by that, I don’t mean Flash Sentry, an EqG character, in his pony form.
Sorry if this has been suggested before, there are 75 pages here, and I’m too lazy to check out all of them. But seriously please, don’t ban me even if only for 12 hours.
JP 
I miss the show so much
@atalarikt
You mean, as a featured image?
This thread isn’t for featured images, use this thread instead.
You mean, as a featured image?
This thread isn’t for featured images, use this thread instead.
toxicitzi
@GyroTech
my intent wasn’t just this, I also wanted this to help other users looking forward to such a feature and possibility, as many of them, old or new, wouldn’t even think of using filters the way you just described, or even bother with the task of filling in every single filter with a larger and more repetitive list of what to exlude out of everything else, as opposed to a smaller and more unique list of what to include in one specific place.
After all, if more people would want to make use of this for their lists, wouldn’t it make the most sense to have the more user friendly and obvious approach instead, as opposed to something more inverse towards a solution such as Filters? A Blacklist would make sense to be used as a substitute towards missing a feature like this, not as the solution.
my intent wasn’t just this, I also wanted this to help other users looking forward to such a feature and possibility, as many of them, old or new, wouldn’t even think of using filters the way you just described, or even bother with the task of filling in every single filter with a larger and more repetitive list of what to exlude out of everything else, as opposed to a smaller and more unique list of what to include in one specific place.
After all, if more people would want to make use of this for their lists, wouldn’t it make the most sense to have the more user friendly and obvious approach instead, as opposed to something more inverse towards a solution such as Filters? A Blacklist would make sense to be used as a substitute towards missing a feature like this, not as the solution.
Joey
PM me your cute OCs
@Exedrus
@GyroTech
That is quite literally a double negative - “do not not show these tags”.
Anyway, yes. Using NOT + OR operators in a filter will achieve the same effect, but it would be a lot less user-friendly, less obvious, and a lot less widely used.
Additionally, remember that you can have only one filter active at a time. So if you want to always hide certain tags (extreme fetishes, low-quality tags, artists you dislike, etc), then you’ll need to add those tags to every single “watching” filter you maintain, and edit however many filters you have every time you want to include a new tag in an exclusion filter.
From a user-friendly perspective, it’s much easier to have the two things be separate and obvious.
@GyroTech
That is quite literally a double negative - “do not not show these tags”.
Anyway, yes. Using NOT + OR operators in a filter will achieve the same effect, but it would be a lot less user-friendly, less obvious, and a lot less widely used.
Additionally, remember that you can have only one filter active at a time. So if you want to always hide certain tags (extreme fetishes, low-quality tags, artists you dislike, etc), then you’ll need to add those tags to every single “watching” filter you maintain, and edit however many filters you have every time you want to include a new tag in an exclusion filter.
From a user-friendly perspective, it’s much easier to have the two things be separate and obvious.
VladimirMacHolzraum
Speaking of which, an “add to all filters” feature would be nice.
you’ll need to add those tags to every single “watching” filter you maintain, and edit however many filters you have every time you want to include a new tag in an exclusion filter.
Speaking of which, an “add to all filters” feature would be nice.
TexasUberAlles
@Joey
That is quite literally a double negative
AND “QUITE LITERALLY” IS QUITE REDUNDANT GODDAMMIT
IT IS LITERAL OR IT ISN’T THERE ARE NO VALID MODIFIERS
Also,
That is quite literally a double negative
AND “QUITE LITERALLY” IS QUITE REDUNDANT GODDAMMIT
IT IS LITERAL OR IT ISN’T THERE ARE NO VALID MODIFIERS
Also,
@VladimirMacHolzraum
an “add to all filters” feature would be nice
Wesley Foxx
The Fluffiest
@toxicitzi
Okay? Again, still, I’m not seeing any occasion for using this sort of thing. You’re not describing a watch list to me, you’re describing a filtered search. To me this seems as odd a suggestion as requesting that we have multiple notification lists, one for comments on safe images, one for comments on porn, one for comments on cute stuff, etc.
Okay? Again, still, I’m not seeing any occasion for using this sort of thing. You’re not describing a watch list to me, you’re describing a filtered search. To me this seems as odd a suggestion as requesting that we have multiple notification lists, one for comments on safe images, one for comments on porn, one for comments on cute stuff, etc.
GyroTech
The Prettiest Catbird
@VladimirMacHolzraum
Better yet how about dependent filters! I think that’d be a better solution.
Better yet how about dependent filters! I think that’d be a better solution.
toxicitzi
Let me also emphasize a Very important point here that I don’t think most of you don’t seem to understand:
1, Your idea works, yes, but it only makes sense for it to exist as the sole one as a substitute for something that You and I could use, but that is not what we’re discussing here, if we are discussing the pros and cons of a Feature for the entire site, we shouldn’t focus on unique and convoluted solutions for our own, respective, conundrums.
2, When we’re talking about optimal, smarter, as well as generally more user friendly, we’re talking here solutions that could be made useful for a much wider variety of people than just you and me, your suggestion is not one of those and I already explained why in previous posts:
What I’m still failing to understand here is why you are so opposed to this being added as a feature and honestly, I’ve yet to hear a single valid reason for it Not being made into a feature.
(and if you’re going to rebut this last point by mentioning again the already existing solution you’ve mentioned a few times now, I refer you back to my 2nd paragraph of this comment, that very important point 1 from earlier, “if we are discussing the pros and cons of a Feature for the entire site, we shouldn’t focus on unique and convoluted solutions for our own, respective, conundrums.”)
@Keith Mowz
Does your filtered search make more sense when I want to use multiple artists for my watched tags, which I already am for my daily dose of porn and pretty much not much else? what about subjective tags, what if I want to go even further with organizing something like beautiful art in grayscale alone, or extremely detailed art, or just wanting to make comprehensive lists of these things based on artist tags, as there usually are mistaggings going on quite often and making it very specific on a subjective manner, depending on what results I want to Watch?
what if for instance, I want to just have all my searches already pre-set and saved for me in the form of multiple watchlists, if I can’t be bothered with thinking what I need to search due to my life being a busy cluster fuck to the mind? what is the point of even having WATCH as an option at all, if we could all just use filtered searches and filters for that exact purpose, Why not get rid of it all together and dismiss even the idea of having any watched tags at all?
Does your filtered search make more sense when I want to use multiple artists for my watched tags, which I already am for my daily dose of porn and pretty much not much else? what about subjective tags, what if I want to go even further with organizing something like beautiful art in grayscale alone, or extremely detailed art, or just wanting to make comprehensive lists of these things based on artist tags, as there usually are mistaggings going on quite often and making it very specific on a subjective manner, depending on what results I want to Watch?
what if for instance, I want to just have all my searches already pre-set and saved for me in the form of multiple watchlists, if I can’t be bothered with thinking what I need to search due to my life being a busy cluster fuck to the mind? what is the point of even having WATCH as an option at all, if we could all just use filtered searches and filters for that exact purpose, Why not get rid of it all together and dismiss even the idea of having any watched tags at all?
Let me also emphasize a Very important point here that I don’t think most of you don’t seem to understand:
1, Your idea works, yes, but it only makes sense for it to exist as the sole one as a substitute for something that You and I could use, but that is not what we’re discussing here, if we are discussing the pros and cons of a Feature for the entire site, we shouldn’t focus on unique and convoluted solutions for our own, respective, conundrums.
2, When we’re talking about optimal, smarter, as well as generally more user friendly, we’re talking here solutions that could be made useful for a much wider variety of people than just you and me, your suggestion is not one of those and I already explained why in previous posts:
- Using Filters are a non-obvious solution and the potential to be further spread with multiple users is severely diminished by the non-obvious approach and nature it has.
- Filtered searches just Won’t Work, as tags consist of an almost innumerable amount of things, both subjective and objective, all of which can be infinitely more useful with smarter watchlists.
- all tags (except the ones being followed) must be spread in all Filtered groups and all new tags added to any filter need to also be spread into every single group, all the time you add any number of new tags to even a Single one of these lists and that is assuming you even managed to organize such a group of filters.
- this solution doesn’t prevent an abysmally immense clutter in your main watch list in the slightest, as everything stored and by default, defined from the tags you are Watching, are all stored in One universal list.
- can get extremely difficult to organize, even next to impossible if you have a big list of tags, as the backwards approach to it as a solution can also get extremely confusing just by how inversely proportionate it is to what you’re actually trying to achieve, let alone with a long list of tags when trying to manage it, as all are absolutely required to be added in every single filtered search you want them to be excluded out of.
- it is incredibly tedious for any number of users outside the dedicated, to get through with something like this.
I could really go on with further examples of how filters are a Poor substitute in the absence of whitelists, but the thing I want to stipulate here is this, Programming Paradigms. The reason it functions exactly like them is because of this, Watched Tags are similar to that of Variables that you define at the start of your programming files, the reason programming paradigms exist is to make life easier for managing and organizing the code later on.
This should be all the reason necessary to have whitelists as a feature, not to mention, even adding it isn’t that hard since the Exact functionality of such a feature already exists in Filters!
@toxicitzi
@SuperSupermario24
something more along the lines of this, just replace the words “Spoiler” and “Hide” with just “Watch”.and with it, something like this next to filters, to make it easier to access the watch list you want to swap to.
What I’m still failing to understand here is why you are so opposed to this being added as a feature and honestly, I’ve yet to hear a single valid reason for it Not being made into a feature.
(and if you’re going to rebut this last point by mentioning again the already existing solution you’ve mentioned a few times now, I refer you back to my 2nd paragraph of this comment, that very important point 1 from earlier, “if we are discussing the pros and cons of a Feature for the entire site, we shouldn’t focus on unique and convoluted solutions for our own, respective, conundrums.”)
TexasUberAlles
@toxicitzi
I still think the whole concept is of dubious widespread utility– as in, I’m not sure there are a lot of people who’d actually use it– but if there’s some way on the coding end of things to simply and easily adapt the Filter architecture to essentially do the same thing in the other direction to maintain multiple distinct Watchlists, it would be a nice feature to have for those who would use it.
I still think it would be easier on the poor bastards who code this place if everyone who wanted a feature like this just made a separate account to maintain a separate watchlist, though; I’m pretty sure some users already do that to keep their mom-friendly and NSFW filter lists faaaar away from each other.
I still think the whole concept is of dubious widespread utility– as in, I’m not sure there are a lot of people who’d actually use it– but if there’s some way on the coding end of things to simply and easily adapt the Filter architecture to essentially do the same thing in the other direction to maintain multiple distinct Watchlists, it would be a nice feature to have for those who would use it.
I still think it would be easier on the poor bastards who code this place if everyone who wanted a feature like this just made a separate account to maintain a separate watchlist, though; I’m pretty sure some users already do that to keep their mom-friendly and NSFW filter lists faaaar away from each other.
toxicitzi
@TexasUberAlles
unless we actually give it a try, can you say that for sure? there is a clear difference between evidence from having that feature, when people will know about it after seeing something new there pop up on their webpage screen. For me, the only bit of evidence clear in that watched tags could become a far more used thing than filters is just the fact that we actually use the “Watch tag” option, it just wouldn’t be too hard to imagine that people would also think much faster and easier ways to manage and sort the tags that they watch.
as for the poor bastards who code this, I do agree that we shouldn’t bother them with coding useless junk in, but if it’s all the same, I’ll talk to them about working on this myself. It may take a longer time for me to get it up since I don’t know the language that well, the one that was used on the site (and I have a strong suspicion it’s probably html, although it could be something else too), but if I can get it up myself and have it added in, that’s fine by me, I’ll find a way on my own.
I know I’m making a big case about this, but the better side of me thinks this wouldn’t be such a bad feature to implement and yes, it could be a lot more helpful to me than managing this with filters, I admit it.. >.>
it’s just common for my brain now to reject a more convoluted and needlessly complex solution, especially when one such thing isn’t necessary. I would much rather if I could avoid “watchlists” of filters, which consist of several times repeated tags exclusions. That all sounds like a very bad deal in the long run.
unless we actually give it a try, can you say that for sure? there is a clear difference between evidence from having that feature, when people will know about it after seeing something new there pop up on their webpage screen. For me, the only bit of evidence clear in that watched tags could become a far more used thing than filters is just the fact that we actually use the “Watch tag” option, it just wouldn’t be too hard to imagine that people would also think much faster and easier ways to manage and sort the tags that they watch.
as for the poor bastards who code this, I do agree that we shouldn’t bother them with coding useless junk in, but if it’s all the same, I’ll talk to them about working on this myself. It may take a longer time for me to get it up since I don’t know the language that well, the one that was used on the site (and I have a strong suspicion it’s probably html, although it could be something else too), but if I can get it up myself and have it added in, that’s fine by me, I’ll find a way on my own.
I know I’m making a big case about this, but the better side of me thinks this wouldn’t be such a bad feature to implement and yes, it could be a lot more helpful to me than managing this with filters, I admit it.. >.>
it’s just common for my brain now to reject a more convoluted and needlessly complex solution, especially when one such thing isn’t necessary. I would much rather if I could avoid “watchlists” of filters, which consist of several times repeated tags exclusions. That all sounds like a very bad deal in the long run.
The Smiling Pony 
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@TexasUberAlles
You could make the same argument for filters, and I’m rather certain plenty of people run different filters.
You could make the same argument for filters, and I’m rather certain plenty of people run different filters.
TexasUberAlles
@The Smiling Pony
I kinda did make that argument for filters; I also said it would be a good thing to have for people who wanted it if it wouldn’t make too much extra effort for the coders.
I kinda did make that argument for filters; I also said it would be a good thing to have for people who wanted it if it wouldn’t make too much extra effort for the coders.
GyroTech
The Prettiest Catbird
@Exedrus
Exactly! That way you could modify one filter for your general no, and then have more specific filters that include that.
Though, it might actually make more sense to just be able to turn on multiple filters from the standpoint of things like preventing recursive filters.
Exactly! That way you could modify one filter for your general no, and then have more specific filters that include that.
Though, it might actually make more sense to just be able to turn on multiple filters from the standpoint of things like preventing recursive filters.
Wesley Foxx
The Fluffiest
That was a whole lots of words I skipped over because I can’t really argue that no, we should not add this feature. I am perfectly fine with the idea of this feature being included if other people would use it.
I still have not been convinced in any way what the point of that is because I don’t see the point of watching a tag some of the time. The whole reason I watch a tag is because I never want to miss seeing images from it.
I would also further suggest a feature that I could see people using for that purpose and would use myself, the ability to save commonly used searches.
I still have not been convinced in any way what the point of that is because I don’t see the point of watching a tag some of the time. The whole reason I watch a tag is because I never want to miss seeing images from it.
I would also further suggest a feature that I could see people using for that purpose and would use myself, the ability to save commonly used searches.
OrionFOTL
I would also further suggest a feature that I could see people using for that purpose and would use myself, the ability to save commonly used searches.
A browser bookmark (optionally in a folder) does that nicely.
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