Do you think that any of the artists that DNP will return?

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@Wiimeiser  
Don’t blame you, but I hope things get worked out.
 
@Pause  
I don’t understand the whole DNP protest, it’ll acomplish nothing. I’m sorry, but one edgy, controversial OC isn’t worth losing this site over. (And just because people are leaving isn’t necessarily going to kill this site.) I understand some are worried about other things being censored, and want to send a message, but ironically, now they’re just censoring themselves, and losing viewership. (and possibly potential commissions/money)
 
@Barhandar  
Really? This place works fine for me, so I don’t understand why none of them will work for me.
 
So if Derpi does get deleted, you can pretty much kiss my tail goodbye. …(Though, I’m not even sure anyone would miss me. lol)
Angius

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I can see the anti-censorship artists coming back should the rules be restored to how they were, and should the staff stop using things like hidden staff, shadow filters, and request throttling.
 
The pro-censorship artists? Nah, they don’t want solutions, they want to be angry. They will find another thing that has to be changed and will want to take a mile.
 
Just take a look at one of the solutions, “get out of here, make your own place to post Aryanne!”  
Well, such a place was made – either of the three existing altboorus. But then, you have Dilarus tweeting out who their hosting provider is, emails of their staff, saying that this particular hosting doesn’t like porn.
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I can see the anti-censorship artists coming back should the rules be restored to how they were, and should the staff stop using things like hidden staff, shadow filters, and request throttling.
The pro-censorship artists? Nah, they don’t want solutions, they want to be angry. They will find another thing that has to be changed and will want to take a mile.
Just take a look at one of the solutions, “get out of here, make your own place to post Aryanne!”
Well, such a place was made – either of the three existing altboorus. But then, you have Dilarus tweeting out who their hosting provider is, emails of their staff, saying that this particular hosting doesn’t like porn.
 
Basically this.
Barhandar
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I can see the anti-censorship artists coming back should the rules be restored to how they were, and should the staff stop using things like hidden staff, shadow filters, and request throttling.
The pro-censorship artists? Nah, they don’t want solutions, they want to be angry. They will find another thing that has to be changed and will want to take a mile.
Just take a look at one of the solutions, “get out of here, make your own place to post Aryanne!”
Well, such a place was made – either of the three existing altboorus. But then, you have Dilarus tweeting out who their hosting provider is, emails of their staff, saying that this particular hosting doesn’t like porn.
This.  
The, er, “anti-nazi” people don’t want to have a nazi-free booru (or they’d just create their own), they want to usurp an already existing one (for various reasons: traffic benefits, feeling of moral superiority, etc), or destroy it if usurpation fails.  
Not really different from an asshole coming into your own house and demanding you leave.
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@Wiimeiser
 
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@Barhandar
 
Sorry for the wait, I was at work.
 
Let me first preface this post with saying that I’m going to do my best to stay impartial. There has been enough pointing fingers and blaming each other during this whole shitfest. I’ll try to avoid moralizing. Obviously I have my own opinion, but I hope I’m not going to let it color what I say too much.
 
I believe that humans are, at their core, social creatures that instinctively seek some kind of order in a given community they’re part of. It gives our lizard brains a sense of stability and safety. Many of our actions and reactions are motivated by instinctual drive to defend and uphold that. A clear set of rules to follow. At the very core, I think that lack of this order was the biggest problem.
 
Derpibooru operated on a simple principle. This is an imageboard. There are users, there are several rules to follow, and there is a moderation team that is in charge of enforcing those rules. Sounds simple enough, right?
 
It’s unfortunately the moderation team’s actions that broke this little social contract - their failure to keep an unified front and enforce a clear set of rules to follow as agreed by the community.
 
One of the Luna mods, I forget which, recently said that the team was already considering and constructing means of removing Aryanne and other nazi content from the site. While I doubt any of us have any real desire to believe the moderators at this point after all that happened, I believe that this is at least partially true. There were several ways of doing this and at least a few could have worked without much fuss. For an example, starting with a site announcement that the moderation team felt they were not doing good enough work at enforcing rules and slowly cracking down on nazi content via rule 0; saying that due to some legal goobledygook they were forced to tighten the rules on posting nazi content; just saying nothing and slowly removing content, whatever. Slow and methodical process, boiling the frog slowly, however you want to call it.
 
Instead, the change was sudden, swift, and worst of all - in reaction to an event. And this was the first mistake of the moderation team.
 
I’ve no idea whether Aryanne ban in response to the drama was a panicked kneejerk, or was just seen as a good excuse. It doesn’t really matter here. What does is the fact it was abrupt and it happened in reaction to an event seen as outward influence. Lizard brain saw this as an agression against community from an outside source, and lizard brain defended.
 
At this point, there was no chance of getting out of this unscathed. Someone was going to get upset. Someone was going to get angry. Damage control was the name of the game. Unfortunately, the mod team failed at that.
 
I think the worst part of this whole disaster was the moderators’ inability to pick a decision and stick to it. Ban nazi content. Do not ban nazi content. Whichever would have been picked, it would be better than what happened. There obviously would have been upset people, people that would have felt hurt, people who would have left. Unavoidable at this point. However it would have been done - community vote, moderation team agreement, hell, even going quia ita dicitur i.
 
This is the new set of rules, and this is how it’s going to be. Accept or leave. Damage done.
 
Instead, the rules kept changing. Rapidly. The mods failed to form an unified front. It became increasingly obvious that they are infighting, and it looked increasingly nasty. Lizard brain went, no leader, no rules, community failing.
 
So began the mad scramble to assume control and restore order. Worldviews clashed. Every faction tried to enforce their idea of order over everyone, by any means considered justifiable. Total chaos.
 
And here we are.
 
There were a lot of problems. Lack of transparency. Going back on others’ decisions. Personal bias. Unfortunately, dear mod team, you have utterly failed at your most important job - giving the community here a sense of stability. You couldn’t decide what to do and you were unable to keep order in the community that depended on it.
 
I don’t really blame you for it. Moderating is hard and thankless work. You’re human, you make mistakes. This isn’t your job, you’re - to my knowledge - all volunteers just trying your best.
 
But there’s no arguing mistakes were made. Trust was broken, and that was really the worst thing about it.
 
Now, of course, there’s a lot of details and nuance missing in this little analysis. That’s unfortunately the result of me trying to keep it impartial and not delving into morality of decisions made (not to mention being half braindead after work, lol).
 
But it’s hopefully a slightly different view on all that happened in the past few weeks. Food for thought.
Barhandar
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@dimVitrarius  
That’s pretty accurate. One note, though, is that it did not start with Aryanne/nazis. It started with BLM and automatic bans (which were apparently a surprise to many mods as well) for utilizing site functions to express displeasure with badly done BLM propaganda. Ban on “nazis” and implication that BLM banning is no longer a temporary measure were just a  
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and have gotten people to realize that it’ll only get worse. You could say it’s lizard brain realizing the leader has become corrupt and is “aggression against community from outside source” by themselves.
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@Aponty  
Obviously people don’t speak for you here, or anybody in particular for that matter. This Thread is just for people to tell thier OPINION on if people are gonna return whitch is exactly what Angius was doing.
Barhandar
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@Wiimeiser  
>They won’t be on any of the other boorus either, since those all allow nazis.  
>”they” implies xppp1n  
>I think xppp1n didn’t DNP because of “brownie nutsees”, they DNPed because of headstaff being fascists themselves and enforcing their ideology on the site, everyone opposing them be damned
MFMK

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I held off on my DNP request because I wanted to allow some more time for staff to muster a clear response
 
After reading up on posts today, I submitted a DNP and doubt I will be back - I see no way this won’t continue sliding as the fringes shrink and more works are deemed undesirable
 
Hopefully I am wrong, as it saddens me greatly to DNP MFMK and stop posting my more recent anonymous works.
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@MFMK  
If you haven’t kept up on the Drama, a new site has been founded that removes the censorship.  
https://ponybooru.org/  
It’s like Derpibooru but you can post anything you want as long as it’s legal in the USA and pony-related.  
Maybe move over there if you want. They are still building up thier site.
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@MFMK  
Holy slippery slope, Batman. Why do you DNP yourself in advance and not AFTER you’ve been “deemed undesirable”?
 
I really want to know the logic behind this kind of thinking. Because I do not understand it.
 
And even if, one day, you somehow actually are “deemed undesirable”, then why not simply stop logging in on Derpi? Just walk away, no one knows who you are. Your images will be then removed without you having to do anything.
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@MFMK
 
Have fun waiting for that request to be processed, you’re sat in a VERY big queue now… (11 days and counting since I put in my own)
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@JP  
It is indeed a slippery slope argument, I’d dare say that does not invalidate it
 
I know some people will be deemed undesirable, and that’s enough for me. It sits so badly with me, that I DNP as a form of protest.
 
The fact that artists leave en-masse and will (likely) not return sets a precedent of what happens when a site starts moving down this track, reducing the likelyhood of other sites doing the same. Likely, Derpibooru has burned too much good will to get people back.
 
 
@Background Pony #99D0  
The length of the queue is good, it’s an underscore of the message being sent. In the unlikely event that things turn around soon, it will be easier to cut the process and restore normality.
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@MFMK  
I’ve spent 15 minutes trying to formulate a reply, but I can’t. Typing something, then erasing it because it doesn’t work. Again and again.
 
I honestly don’t know how to reply to that. Your logic is so backwards and asinine. I just can’t.
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