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In fact, literally anything on this site that was processed in photoshop, saved as a jpeg, or had some sort of automated interpolation performed should be tagged as at least “AI assisted” if we are going to use “AI assisted” as a tag.

Images where AI was used, but there there is a significant amount of manual editing (through extensive in/outpainting and/or use of external programs), such that the AI image only served as a base (ie. “photobash” with AI).

This tag does not apply to an artist using AI to upscale their own images, add interpolation frames to their animation, or adding out of focus / procedural as background filler.

Also used for images where a minor portion of the image was edited by AI, such as detailing part of an image (like a lace pattern), adding a background or background element (where these are clear but not the focus of the image), finishing (coloring, shading, or detailing) a fine sketch / lineart (i.e where the base image was made by an artist, is more detailed than a crude stick figure drawing, and its attributes notable retained), or adding AI-made voices to videos.

Photography “hurt” artists too by removing a profitable segment of their industry

people will simply do what they want when it comes to art and no one should stand in the way of that (after all, who are you to say what is correct in a totally subjective field).

Fundamentally, the staff seems to be unhappy with the fact that people are democratically agreeing that AI art is good and on par with human art to get into trending to begin with

Often times great art goes unnoticed while mediocre stuff that draws what the majority wants end up getting on trending (mostly NSFW stuff for instance)

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Often times great art goes unnoticed while mediocre stuff that draws what the majority wants end up getting on trending (mostly NSFW stuff for instance)

This issue will only be made bigger with AI art in the mix. Otherwise, small but really talented artists have to compete with both popular established artists and AI art in terms of getting seen.

Most of the reasonably popular stuff on this site is NSFW, and AI art is no different. If anything, I’d say at this point in time, there’s at least more style variation in popular human made art than there is in popular AI art. See for yourself.

why would anyone in their right mind use traditional art tools still, digital art is objectively superior in pretty much every way

• Because they’re learning or figuring out if they’re even interested in art, and getting started with a set of artist pencils is a lot cheaper than getting a drawing tablet.
• Because traditional art immediately results in a physical and unique piece that cannot be perfectly copied, and can be displayed as is without printing (which itself can be a headache if you want accurate colours)
• Traditional art is easier to sell as experience in terms of freelance work at events.

but the reason it can still be appreciated is due to the time investment.

this is why it is the industry standard when time/money are a concern (say in video games, movies, etc)

Also AI art and normal human art can coexist and will do so.

Huh. If it’s only “the smallest slight bit maybe MLP related” being uploaded, I’m understanding the issue more. In that case, maybe there can be loosened exemptions for specific uploaders similar to how general users got to edit tags? […]
However, I realize this could end up with favoritism problems and still leaving a new potential workload issue. Pretty much spitballing here.

There’s no one to praise for a good AI image. No personal connection. And there’s no one to follow and/or commission if there’s an image I like and want to see more of. What’s the point of art that isn’t tied to anyone? It can only ever exist in isolation and there may not be another image in the same style, whereas skilled artists can be consistent with art styles.

Either way AI is more ingrained in media already than you may think.

For things like movies AI based denoising has been in use for years too (see like Nvidia’s OptiX)

finds a place in the content pipeline as it is a powerful tool for artists to use.

I do not really care if art came from a human or not as long as it looks good.

I don’t even think it’s accurate to say no human is involved anyways in current AI art because there is still a human guiding the artistic process when using AI.

by that point with AGI being a thing art is going to be the least of people’s worries (as it’ll just be a complete existential nightmare given humanity will fully lose its purpose if AI is on par with pretty much every capability of the human mind).

Idk about you but a lot of artists especially when being paid to produce art find the act of actually drawing a bunch of lines to form an image as a boring monotonous task.

yeah I am well aware that for most people programming is like I said also just considered a means to an end and most just do not enjoy actually writing code.

(things like Photoshop are for most a black box of functionality that convert specific inputs into art)

I do not know why people have such a problem with a box but from what I’ve read it seems to be a few different reasons depending on the person.

Some people’s arguments sound like they are unhappy that the box is made by humans (as in it is “artificial” or “soulless”, so some sort of appeal to nature-esque argument), even though it is still expressing the artistic desire of the one it is translating for

Others though seem like they oppose the idea of the box existing purely because it allows for creation of visual media that deviates from the traditional norm, and this to me sounds purely like a refusal to accept change when surely a black box like this would be an immensely powerful tool in communication for those who either lack the skills to communicate such things themselves (due to lack of the mechanical/brain skills required for the current tools we use to produce various types of art) or for those who simply do not want to spend the time/money on doing so (a fair point, not everyone wants to spend all their life learning these skills, nor ideally would want to spend a ton of money to express such things if possible).

I had a look into the Unity AI thing you mentioned earlier, and came across this YT comment that describes my thoughts perfectly:

Well yes that’s the point but you’re not understanding its effect. What is currently good will become mediocre, but AI will allow for new greatness that is currently unachievable. This is just how things progress.

Not true, you can control every detail in an AI-generated image, it is just up to you to put that effort in. Furthermore nothing is stopping you from editing an AI-generated image.

Photoshop is just as much a black box just with a different granularity of control. Photoshop turns arbitrary muscle movements into rendered images, this is essentially magic from your perspective as you likely have 0 clue how Photoshop actually does that.

I do not why artists think they are entitled to serve the role of the box or why I must actually use the traditional methods to do such a task when the box exists.

If anything you could just say such a box depending on its quality of output lowers the entry bar for creating acceptable visualizations of thoughts by allowing for people to communicate their desires in a more traditional language

This is something I already said before your recent ban