Video Game General 2: Definitive/Remastered Edition

@Meanlucario  
Why does no one ever notice I clearly said from a Nintendo game?

@Egil  
Because Nintendo does it as well. Look at Fire Emblem for example.

@Meanlucario
 
Or how a lot of the Shin Megami Tensei games were on Nintendo systems.

@Meanlucario
 
…To be fair, he might have been forced into that kind of situation. (I’m assuming this is about TLOU2)

@Jarkes  
He does this for multiple games that he acts in apparently, so it’s nothing new. Jim also uses this to talk about something else that another reviewer said that’s related to what’s happening with TLOU2 reviews.

@Meanlucario  
Only played one and barely.
 
 
@Jarkes  
That’s Atlus, not Nintendo.

@Egil  
FE started in the second game.

@Meanlucario
 
Still though, there are loads of situations where actors or other people involved in media (not strictly video games) basically are contractually not allowed to talk shit about what they’re supposed to be promoting until a certain point.
 
I dunno, it just feels like people are looking for an excuse to bash Troy.

@Meanlucario  
FE started in the 7 game over here in the west if you forgot.

@Jarkes  
So it ties in with what Jim says in the video about the industry making a status quo that benefits them indirectly, mostly though being selective who they respond to and who they ignore.

@igotnopicks  
That doesn’t mean FE2’s plot about killing a god any less significant or relevant.

@Meanlucario  
Like I said we westerns got 7. We never got the early Fire Emblem.
 
We didn’t know who Marth and Roy were in Smash debut too. And to be fair to Roy his game wasn’t out at all.

@Meanlucario  
Well, in Awakening, Naga claims that she isn’t a god, and that Grima isn’t, either. I assume that would be true for other divine dragons as well, despite them claiming to be gods, and humans worshiping them as such.

@Meanlucario
 
And Jim ISN’T himself being selective by focusing on Troy and not others?

@Jarkes  
He does bring up others, it’s just that Troy was what made him decide to make a video, and other reviewer’s comment to make it longer and talk about a greater issue.

@Meanlucario  
Given the overall hostility people have for the game, it wouldn’t surprise me if he and the other voice actors who worked on the game are being attacked solely for being involved, despite not really having anything to do with the story writing. In this particular case, his dismissiveness is at least somewhat understandable.

@igotnopicks  
And that matters how in this case?
 
@Silent_Witness  
Same with Echoes, but them being treated as gods is why I think they still count in this debate.

@Silent_Witness
 
Pretty much. It’s not THEIR fault people have issues with the writing (both legitimate issues and not-so-legitimate issues).

@Silent_Witness  
Apparently he also went after Jim himself for saying that the Arkham game he was in mediocre despite Jim saying that he was good in it. Also, Troy’s dismissing all critics, calling them all cowards, which kind of kills his argument since it’s no better than blaming everyone involved for the end result of TLoU2.

@Meanlucario  
I was talking about the YHVH variant that your boy Zanza is trying to be. Created everything and demands others die for him.

@Egil  
My points still stand.

@Egil  
Ah so Zanza is the closest thing we have to the Insane Clown,Kefka.

@Meanlucario  
And I still never played a single Fire Emblem for more than an hour. I also never until the original Xenoblade saw a creator-esque character with traits from God be a final boss of a Nintendo game.