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yeah because the guy who blew up earth because America would totally not think to hit a kid. Man Peet is such a


 
moron. Oh and this two amuses me.

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anonymous asked:

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Why do you insist that Ink Rose is gay? What's the story behind that?


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Anya is weirdly opposed to shipping, especially non-canon ships. I say “weirdly” because she is the self-declared “Queen of Headcanons” and was notoriously pissed off when The Crystalling debunked a lot of those headcanons.


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Gay ships are a big sore spot for her, and she’s whined about LGBT shipping for a long time, giving all sorts of insightful rhetoric as “It’s forcing people to be gay” and “Anti-straight propaganda” and “Ugh! Shut up! Representation isn’t important!” And let’s not forget “I don’t hate gay people, I just hate all this aggressive SJW nonsense!” Also known as “Lipstick on a homophobic pig.”


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Here’s the thing: When Anya says something ridiculous and stupid in a blatant attempt to invoke anger, my inbox gets filled up with notifications about it because a lot of people want to argue against her but don’t know how to do that so they want me to make their counterpoints for them.


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On one occasion when she had chosen “Forcing people to be gay” as her bigoted soapbox of the week, I suggested that perhaps her constant feelings of being pressured to be gay were coming from within, rather than from outside.


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She fucking exploded over it and a lot of her sycophants filled my ear with unhinged rants about how evil I was and even started trying to spin lies that I was encouraging people to draw porn of her to “bully her off the internet.”


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What’s interesting is that any time Anya says something stupid, she always gets people trying to make real counterarguments and have “reasonable debates” with her, and she ignores them every time. Lizzy spent a long time trying to argue with her, but because Anya doesn’t want a real discussion about anything it’s not paid attention to.


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I made dumb jokes and that upset an idiot far more than real counterarguments. That’s why we continue saying homophobic politicians are secretly gay despite those kind of jokes being problematic: It pisses them off. It gets them right in a personal nerve and never lets go.


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So I kept doing it. When people ask me about Anya’s self-destructive antifeminism, my response is effectively “She’ll change her mind when she moves out of her daddy’s house and interacts with the real world for the first time.” When people ask me about her thinly veiled homophobia and transphobia, I say “Sounds like she’s compensating for something.”


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It’s not just Anya I do this with. Every now and then you get that one black guy who wants to be edgy by agreeing with right-wing rhetoric about Black Lives Matter and how we should totally respect a neo-nazi’s “Free speech”. And rather than sincerely argue with them when I know they won’t listen, I just say “And the Darwin Award goes to…”


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That kind of deliberately incendiary and personal rhetoric pisses them off because it is extremely accurate. Right wing women and people of color are playing a political game of Russian Roulette, and you point that out to them they get extremely defensive and start accusing you of “not trusting them to think for themselves” even though you’ve just demonstrated that you do trust them to think for themselves by holding them accountable for the drivel that comes out of their mouths.


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They’re trying to provoke people and get a reaction out of people because that’s what Right Wing politics is in 2017: “Liberal Tears” mean more than anything else. There’s a delightful irony in said provoked reaction itself provoking the very reaction out of them that they were trying to get out of you.[/bq]



 
Yet when people say you're not trans you throw a hissy fit.

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anonymous asked:

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Why do people get so skittish about ships that involve two kids? Especially LGBT ships?


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Oh boy, are you ready for some multi-threaded bullshit?


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Some people are weirdly against shipping for some reason. I don’t get it, and I don’t think I will ever get it because in reality they’re just “Stop Having Fun” guys.


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But if you’re one of those people, AND you’re dishonest enough, you can smear anyone by engaging in a simple game of willful ignorance: Simply perceive “Shipping” and “Porn” to be synonymous. Bam! Now you can make any accusation you want about anyone and get away with it.


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This is especially easy with LGBT ships because Conservatives and other associated human trash either cannot or refuse to comprehend the idea of gay romance. When they think “Gay relationship” their first thought is “Fucking.” And Conservatives are known for considering their own beliefs to be the default position to which all other ideas must prove themselves against.


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Additionally it seems that a lot of adult members of fandoms seem to forget actually BEING a kid, or even that puberty exists and sincerely believe that kids are completely oblivious to romantic feelings toward others until they turn 18 and a switch gets flipped on in their brain. This goes hand in hand with the above bigotry in that LGBT children and teenagers very frequently have their identities dismissed because they’re “too young to know.”

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Of course, REALITY doesn’t work out that way.


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I got my first crush when I was 8, not 18. And most people turn out the same way. In many cases even if they do remember this, they will dismiss it as “not knowing anything” because they don’t accept the concept of feelings changing over time and so because they’re not still in love with that person they think it must not have been real.


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Gay and Trans kids discover their identities as early as age 5, but often won’t know what they are depending on whether or not they live in a progressive or regressive household. And if their parents dismiss their identities (or worse, try to “correct” them) it will take even longer. Personally with the benefit of hindsight I can recognize a lot of quirks about Little Lily that would have been a big neon sign reading “TRANS GIRL” if I’d only known what that was at the time.


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If you ignore this reality and also ignore the reality that relationships are not 100% sexual (as conservatives like to do) then it’s pretty easy to look at, for example, Sweetie Belle/Apple Bloom and scream “OMG THEY’RE KIDS YOU SICK FUCK!” and completely ignore that what’s actually going on is two girls are holding hands and a bunch of people are going “Aw, that’s so cute.”


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TL;DR - Willfull Ignorance plus Hating Fun to the power of Dishonesty divided by the square root of Spite


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INB4 someone inspect-edits this post and cries “LILY’S ENCOURAGING SICK FUCKERY!”[/bq]



 
Oh up yours Peet months ago you accused someone of being a pedo just because they tried to defend drawings and in


 
those same rants you used your Stockholm fanfic as a reason why you don't support pedos which doesn't excuse the


 
fact that it has pedo themes in it. Here is the link to what I was talking about.
 
https://the-e4b.tumblr.com/post/163310977645/if-not-entirely-visible-httpstash0smhoaof7nn
 
Here is other link for those who can't see the screencap all that good.
 
https://sta.sh/0smhoaof7nn
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Jas

"@platinummanaxl":/generals/the-downfall-of-bhaalspawn-contains-possible-sjw-discussions-324/post/3429225#post_3429225

yeah because the guy who blew up earth because America would totally not think to hit a kid. Man Peet is such a

moron. Oh and this two amuses me.

[bq]anonymous asked:
Why do you insist that Ink Rose is gay? What's the story behind that?

Anya is weirdly opposed to shipping, especially non-canon ships. I say “weirdly” because she is the self-declared “Queen of Headcanons” and was notoriously pissed off when The Crystalling debunked a lot of those headcanons.

Gay ships are a big sore spot for her, and she’s whined about LGBT shipping for a long time, giving all sorts of insightful rhetoric as “It’s forcing people to be gay” and “Anti-straight propaganda” and “Ugh! Shut up! Representation isn’t important!” And let’s not forget “I don’t hate gay people, I just hate all this aggressive SJW nonsense!” Also known as “Lipstick on a homophobic pig.”

Here’s the thing: When Anya says something ridiculous and stupid in a blatant attempt to invoke anger, my inbox gets filled up with notifications about it because a lot of people want to argue against her but don’t know how to do that so they want me to make their counterpoints for them.

On one occasion when she had chosen “Forcing people to be gay” as her bigoted soapbox of the week, I suggested that perhaps her constant feelings of being pressured to be gay were coming from within, rather than from outside.

She fucking exploded over it and a lot of her sycophants filled my ear with unhinged rants about how evil I was and even started trying to spin lies that I was encouraging people to draw porn of her to “bully her off the internet.”

What’s interesting is that any time Anya says something stupid, she always gets people trying to make real counterarguments and have “reasonable debates” with her, and she ignores them every time. Lizzy spent a long time trying to argue with her, but because Anya doesn’t want a real discussion about anything it’s not paid attention to.

I made dumb jokes and that upset an idiot far more than real counterarguments. That’s why we continue saying homophobic politicians are secretly gay despite those kind of jokes being problematic: It pisses them off. It gets them right in a personal nerve and never lets go.

So I kept doing it. When people ask me about Anya’s self-destructive antifeminism, my response is effectively “She’ll change her mind when she moves out of her daddy’s house and interacts with the real world for the first time.” When people ask me about her thinly veiled homophobia and transphobia, I say “Sounds like she’s compensating for something.”

It’s not just Anya I do this with. Every now and then you get that one black guy who wants to be edgy by agreeing with right-wing rhetoric about Black Lives Matter and how we should totally respect a neo-nazi’s “Free speech”. And rather than sincerely argue with them when I know they won’t listen, I just say “And the Darwin Award goes to…”

That kind of deliberately incendiary and personal rhetoric pisses them off because it is extremely accurate. Right wing women and people of color are playing a political game of Russian Roulette, and you point that out to them they get extremely defensive and start accusing you of “not trusting them to think for themselves” even though you’ve just demonstrated that you do trust them to think for themselves by holding them accountable for the drivel that comes out of their mouths.

They’re trying to provoke people and get a reaction out of people because that’s what Right Wing politics is in 2017: “Liberal Tears” mean more than anything else. There’s a delightful irony in said provoked reaction itself provoking the very reaction out of them that they were trying to get out of you.[/bq]

Yet when people say you're not trans you throw a hissy fit.

[bq]anonymous asked:
Why do people get so skittish about ships that involve two kids? Especially LGBT ships?

Oh boy, are you ready for some multi-threaded bullshit?

Some people are weirdly against shipping for some reason. I don’t get it, and I don’t think I will ever get it because in reality they’re just “Stop Having Fun” guys.

But if you’re one of those people, AND you’re dishonest enough, you can smear anyone by engaging in a simple game of willful ignorance: Simply perceive “Shipping” and “Porn” to be synonymous. Bam! Now you can make any accusation you want about anyone and get away with it.

This is especially easy with LGBT ships because Conservatives and other associated human trash either cannot or refuse to comprehend the idea of gay romance. When they think “Gay relationship” their first thought is “Fucking.” And Conservatives are known for considering their own beliefs to be the default position to which all other ideas must prove themselves against.

Additionally it seems that a lot of adult members of fandoms seem to forget actually BEING a kid, or even that puberty exists and sincerely believe that kids are completely oblivious to romantic feelings toward others until they turn 18 and a switch gets flipped on in their brain. This goes hand in hand with the above bigotry in that LGBT children and teenagers very frequently have their identities dismissed because they’re “too young to know.”
Of course, REALITY doesn’t work out that way.

I got my first crush when I was 8, not 18. And most people turn out the same way. In many cases even if they do remember this, they will dismiss it as “not knowing anything” because they don’t accept the concept of feelings changing over time and so because they’re not still in love with that person they think it must not have been real.

Gay and Trans kids discover their identities as early as age 5, but often won’t know what they are depending on whether or not they live in a progressive or regressive household. And if their parents dismiss their identities (or worse, try to “correct” them) it will take even longer. Personally with the benefit of hindsight I can recognize a lot of quirks about Little Lily that would have been a big neon sign reading “TRANS GIRL” if I’d only known what that was at the time.

If you ignore this reality and also ignore the reality that relationships are not 100% sexual (as conservatives like to do) then it’s pretty easy to look at, for example, Sweetie Belle/Apple Bloom and scream “OMG THEY’RE KIDS YOU SICK FUCK!” and completely ignore that what’s actually going on is two girls are holding hands and a bunch of people are going “Aw, that’s so cute.”

TL;DR - Willfull Ignorance plus Hating Fun to the power of Dishonesty divided by the square root of Spite

INB4 someone inspect-edits this post and cries “LILY’S ENCOURAGING SICK FUCKERY!”[/bq]

Oh up yours Peet months ago you accused someone of being a pedo just because they tried to defend drawings and in

those same rants you used your Stockholm fanfic as a reason why you don't support pedos which doesn't excuse the

fact that it has pedo themes in it.
No reason given
Edited by Jas
Jas

"@platinummanaxl":/generals/the-downfall-of-bhaalspawn-contains-possible-sjw-discussions-324/post/3429225#post_3429225

yeah because the guy who blew up earth because America would totally not think to hit a kid. Man Peet is such a

moron. Oh and this two amuses me.

[bq]anonymous asked:
Why do you insist that Ink Rose is gay? What's the story behind that?

Anya is weirdly opposed to shipping, especially non-canon ships. I say “weirdly” because she is the self-declared “Queen of Headcanons” and was notoriously pissed off when The Crystalling debunked a lot of those headcanons.

Gay ships are a big sore spot for her, and she’s whined about LGBT shipping for a long time, giving all sorts of insightful rhetoric as “It’s forcing people to be gay” and “Anti-straight propaganda” and “Ugh! Shut up! Representation isn’t important!” And let’s not forget “I don’t hate gay people, I just hate all this aggressive SJW nonsense!” Also known as “Lipstick on a homophobic pig.”

Here’s the thing: When Anya says something ridiculous and stupid in a blatant attempt to invoke anger, my inbox gets filled up with notifications about it because a lot of people want to argue against her but don’t know how to do that so they want me to make their counterpoints for them.

On one occasion when she had chosen “Forcing people to be gay” as her bigoted soapbox of the week, I suggested that perhaps her constant feelings of being pressured to be gay were coming from within, rather than from outside.

She fucking exploded over it and a lot of her sycophants filled my ear with unhinged rants about how evil I was and even started trying to spin lies that I was encouraging people to draw porn of her to “bully her off the internet.”

What’s interesting is that any time Anya says something stupid, she always gets people trying to make real counterarguments and have “reasonable debates” with her, and she ignores them every time. Lizzy spent a long time trying to argue with her, but because Anya doesn’t want a real discussion about anything it’s not paid attention to.

I made dumb jokes and that upset an idiot far more than real counterarguments. That’s why we continue saying homophobic politicians are secretly gay despite those kind of jokes being problematic: It pisses them off. It gets them right in a personal nerve and never lets go.

So I kept doing it. When people ask me about Anya’s self-destructive antifeminism, my response is effectively “She’ll change her mind when she moves out of her daddy’s house and interacts with the real world for the first time.” When people ask me about her thinly veiled homophobia and transphobia, I say “Sounds like she’s compensating for something.”

It’s not just Anya I do this with. Every now and then you get that one black guy who wants to be edgy by agreeing with right-wing rhetoric about Black Lives Matter and how we should totally respect a neo-nazi’s “Free speech”. And rather than sincerely argue with them when I know they won’t listen, I just say “And the Darwin Award goes to…”

That kind of deliberately incendiary and personal rhetoric pisses them off because it is extremely accurate. Right wing women and people of color are playing a political game of Russian Roulette, and you point that out to them they get extremely defensive and start accusing you of “not trusting them to think for themselves” even though you’ve just demonstrated that you do trust them to think for themselves by holding them accountable for the drivel that comes out of their mouths.

They’re trying to provoke people and get a reaction out of people because that’s what Right Wing politics is in 2017: “Liberal Tears” mean more than anything else. There’s a delightful irony in said provoked reaction itself provoking the very reaction out of them that they were trying to get out of you.[/bq]

Yet when people say your not trans you throw a hissy fit.

[bq]anonymous asked:
Why do people get so skittish about ships that involve two kids? Especially LGBT ships?

Oh boy, are you ready for some multi-threaded bullshit?

Some people are weirdly against shipping for some reason. I don’t get it, and I don’t think I will ever get it because in reality they’re just “Stop Having Fun” guys.

But if you’re one of those people, AND you’re dishonest enough, you can smear anyone by engaging in a simple game of willful ignorance: Simply perceive “Shipping” and “Porn” to be synonymous. Bam! Now you can make any accusation you want about anyone and get away with it.

This is especially easy with LGBT ships because Conservatives and other associated human trash either cannot or refuse to comprehend the idea of gay romance. When they think “Gay relationship” their first thought is “Fucking.” And Conservatives are known for considering their own beliefs to be the default position to which all other ideas must prove themselves against.

Additionally it seems that a lot of adult members of fandoms seem to forget actually BEING a kid, or even that puberty exists and sincerely believe that kids are completely oblivious to romantic feelings toward others until they turn 18 and a switch gets flipped on in their brain. This goes hand in hand with the above bigotry in that LGBT children and teenagers very frequently have their identities dismissed because they’re “too young to know.”
Of course, REALITY doesn’t work out that way.

I got my first crush when I was 8, not 18. And most people turn out the same way. In many cases even if they do remember this, they will dismiss it as “not knowing anything” because they don’t accept the concept of feelings changing over time and so because they’re not still in love with that person they think it must not have been real.

Gay and Trans kids discover their identities as early as age 5, but often won’t know what they are depending on whether or not they live in a progressive or regressive household. And if their parents dismiss their identities (or worse, try to “correct” them) it will take even longer. Personally with the benefit of hindsight I can recognize a lot of quirks about Little Lily that would have been a big neon sign reading “TRANS GIRL” if I’d only known what that was at the time.

If you ignore this reality and also ignore the reality that relationships are not 100% sexual (as conservatives like to do) then it’s pretty easy to look at, for example, Sweetie Belle/Apple Bloom and scream “OMG THEY’RE KIDS YOU SICK FUCK!” and completely ignore that what’s actually going on is two girls are holding hands and a bunch of people are going “Aw, that’s so cute.”

TL;DR - Willfull Ignorance plus Hating Fun to the power of Dishonesty divided by the square root of Spite

INB4 someone inspect-edits this post and cries “LILY’S ENCOURAGING SICK FUCKERY!”[/bq]

Oh up yours Peet months ago you accused someone of being a pedo just because they tried to defend drawings and in

those same rants you used your Stockholm fanfic as a reason why you don't support pedos which doesn't excuse the

fact that it has pedo themes in it.
No reason given
Edited by Jas