Don't blame me, I voted for the other guy. (Politics General)

marinus18

@BlitztheDragon
I would say the real problem is that they appeased the republicans way too much. It alienated their base a lot and in the end didn’t get them anything. They tried to appease the right but that was impossible as they all will just vote for Trump anyway. They should have focused on going hard left which is what they did in the beginning to great success. Later on they shifted more and more to the right which is when their support started dropping.
Also Harris refusal to take a strong stance on Israel cost her dearly.
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@BlitztheDragon
Irrelevant party further kills their chances by becoming identical to their opponents. Good. I welcome it. I’m never voting for these shitheads again anyway.
marinus18

@Background Pony #51AF
I don’t think that will happen. At most they will innate some bullying of sites not associated with the big internet corporations. But most of what they want is to groom children to be Christians and not question those in power or the system they are in. With “porn” they mean LGBTQ.
marinus18

@Background Pony #51AF
I think there will be bullying from the megacorps like Hasbro but not much more than that. I do think if there is trouble that is where it will come from. Not prudish priests but megacorps not liking fans doing stuff.
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this is un-fucking-believable. we saw what he did and asked for seconds. fucking screaming on the inside trying not to fucking lose it. this shit a bad joke. my life was fucked enough before but this is just shit in the wound.
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@marinus18
Why? They’re literally never going to hold any position of relevance ever again. I assume people will flock to people talking about LGBT issues, Gaza, immigrant rights and racial issues. But if it’s the Democrats just trying to throw the most minuscule little bone to us, we’ll never break out of their far-Right horseshit. Kamala was literally campaigning with Dick Cheney. A party doing that is unforgivable if they still can’t even win! It’s time to say “Fuck them” and find something else.
And by “something else,” I mean “literally anything.” Giving up on life provides a more hopeful outlook on reality than trying to support the Dems at this point.
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I’m not giving up.
I suppose I’ll let this thread be for a day or two.
I have my stance and I’m sticking to it, I’ll be open to discuss it further somewhere other than here.
marinus18

@Angrybrony
Democracy was on the ballot, and the American people said no. They’ve always said no. Democracy was always a joke
That one is a little bit of an exagerration. But many were too disillisioned with Biden’s failure to protect them from the exploitation of the megacorps and were too drawn in to blame him for it.
marinus18

@neutralgrey
The democrats have accomplished plenty. Just not in the right areas that were immediately noticable. Anything in the further areas could be easily burried by corporate propaganda. The biggest thing Biden had to do was raise the minimum wage.
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@neutralgrey
I am not moral grandstanding. I am pointing out that you are causing more harm by counting all your chickens in this basket that never has any eggs in it. We will either barely survive or die horrible deaths while pretending to have any agency. I’d rather not accept the bait.
Did you know that those buttons by the crosswalks don’t actually do anything? They’re there to give you a sense of control. You’re getting that walk light at the same exact time regardless. The Democrat Party is the same, they give us nothing.
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I have an honest question. Is Trump going to ruin the economy in the United States?
marinus18

@Background Pony #9881
“Ruin” is a bit of an exagerration but he will hurt it. Mainly by elevating the megacorps at the expense of everyone else. However the biggest thing they will do is put in laws via the supreme court to make sure the power of the megacorps is beyond question and that society exists to serve them not the other way around.
The decline will be gradual but it’s not really preventable at this point. Harris was sort of the last chance for the US to change course away from the decline that Reagan set it on. Decline in historical empires most often comes when you have an oligarchy that wants to maintain it’s power and ruins everything to cling on to it to the point no other institution even exists.
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Now, exit polls are not 100% accurate, but they can be useful for a general idea. Here is the swing toward Trump among voters between 2020 and 2024, by race and sex.
White Men -3
White Women -6
Black Men +2
Black Women -4
Latino Men +33
Latina Women +15
All Other +15
The Black male vote appears to have been (mostly) a mirage as I predicted, but WOOF that Latine vote.
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