Don't blame me, I voted for the other guy. (Politics General)
marinus18
@Background Pony #E7E4
She really needs to ditch Israel and also the border wall. Neither of those things will get her any votes cause the republicans will always outdo her.
She really needs to ditch Israel and also the border wall. Neither of those things will get her any votes cause the republicans will always outdo her.
marinus18
@Background Pony #E7E4
Unfortunately I agree. She is deeply into the establishment and they have all kinds of bad ideas. Even though neither a border wall nor continued support for Palestine genocide will get the United States anything.
Unfortunately I agree. She is deeply into the establishment and they have all kinds of bad ideas. Even though neither a border wall nor continued support for Palestine genocide will get the United States anything.
Zincy 
In Vino Veritas
Ol’Don’s dementia must be really kicking in.
Last night, during an interview, he said that the crowds went crazy at the debate when he was fact checked.
There was no crowd at the debate
Background Pony #D717
@Background Pony #E7E4
They better not be surprised when they hand the election to Donald and are the first among the deportation chopping block.
They better not be surprised when they hand the election to Donald and are the first among the deportation chopping block.
@Zincy
The Twitter rightoids are already in the process of going “he was talking about the audience at home!!!”
The Twitter rightoids are already in the process of going “he was talking about the audience at home!!!”
CaptainXtra 
I’m not giving up.
Jill Stein voters are impressive.
They somehow continue to live despite lacking a brain.
marinus18
@Background Pony #D717
It’s Kamala’s fault for being a bad politician here. She should just let the xenophobia go, it won’t get her anything. You can never outdo actual right wing parties and you just alienate your own base.
It’s Kamala’s fault for being a bad politician here. She should just let the xenophobia go, it won’t get her anything. You can never outdo actual right wing parties and you just alienate your own base.
Background Pony #D717
@marinus18
I’m going to regret asking this, but what xenophobia. If it’s about Palestine, that’s already a problem with varying shit outcomes no matter how you cut it, imo.
I’m going to regret asking this, but what xenophobia. If it’s about Palestine, that’s already a problem with varying shit outcomes no matter how you cut it, imo.
Background Pony #E7E4
@marinus18
Thing is, Israel is the only more well-known ally for the US.
Saudi Arabia has a well noted history of horrible stuff.
UAE is the one that isn’t interacted with much.
Thing is, Israel is the only more well-known ally for the US.
Saudi Arabia has a well noted history of horrible stuff.
UAE is the one that isn’t interacted with much.
If Kamala said they won’t support Israel, do you really think Israel would take kindly?
marinus18
@marinus18
I’m going to regret asking this, but what xenophobia. If it’s about Palestine, that’s already a problem with varying shit outcomes no matter how you cut it, imo.
The border wall is a pure symbol of xenophobia, it serves no other purpose than making people feel like they are special and walled off from the outside world.
@marinus18
Thing is, Israel is the only more well-known ally for the US.
Saudi Arabia has a well noted history of horrible stuff.
UAE is the one that isn’t interacted with much.If Kamala said they won’t support Israel, do you really think Israel would take kindly?
Of course Israel won’t take it kindly, that’s their problem. The US is openly supporting a genocide.
Background Pony #D717
@marinus18
Yeah, and I’d rather not find out if Israel has a “fuck you” nuke pointed at us if they decide to go out swinging when no one’s on their side.
Yeah, and I’d rather not find out if Israel has a “fuck you” nuke pointed at us if they decide to go out swinging when no one’s on their side.
marinus18
@Background Pony #D717
You seriously are afraid of Israel and allow America to be blackmailed by them? That’s pretty pathetic.
You seriously are afraid of Israel and allow America to be blackmailed by them? That’s pretty pathetic.
Background Pony #E7E4
@marinus18
Well, that’s the thing.
Much as the US would love to say fuck you to Israel, the thing is, we don’t want to learn if Israel has nukes.
Well, that’s the thing.
Much as the US would love to say fuck you to Israel, the thing is, we don’t want to learn if Israel has nukes.
Pathetic, yes. But try saying that if your country gets nuked.
marinus18
@Background Pony #E7E4
The US has an anti-nuke defense system. It’s not sufficient against Russia or China but it is sufficient against North-Korea. If it can stop North-Korea it can stop Israel too.
On top of that it’s not a convincing argument considering Trump ripped up the Iran nuclear deal and Biden hasn’t restored it despite Iran wanting too.
The US has an anti-nuke defense system. It’s not sufficient against Russia or China but it is sufficient against North-Korea. If it can stop North-Korea it can stop Israel too.
On top of that it’s not a convincing argument considering Trump ripped up the Iran nuclear deal and Biden hasn’t restored it despite Iran wanting too.
Background Pony #E7E4
Zincy
In Vino Veritas
We could wipe Israel (or really any country) off the map if we mobilized our entire military might against them.
No joke, it would take the combined power of pretty much the rest of the world fo actually put us down.
Background Pony #D717
@Zincy
I mean, we could, but do we really need to spark an Israeli migrant crisis/Holocaust 2?
I mean, we could, but do we really need to spark an Israeli migrant crisis/Holocaust 2?
I’d rather not repeat the classic Middle East policy of “solve problem by introducing another one.”
It’d also be political suicide.
marinus18
@Background Pony #D717
What are you talking about? What crisis will happen. What will likely happen is that Netenyahu has to back off and that’s it.
What are you talking about? What crisis will happen. What will likely happen is that Netenyahu has to back off and that’s it.
Surprise 
They aren’t, but the discourse can still influence them just the same. No one will say that Richard Pavlick, Lee Harvey Oswald or Sirhan Sirhan were examples of mental stability, but you can’t say that politics didn’t influence them to do what they did.
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