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I’m sorry but this video and the question it talks about is justifying misandry, full stop. Of course men are going to be offended by it and there’s nothing wrong with that. The arguments, including the M&M’s analogy, are still arguing that all men are to be treated as worse than vicious animals. As a man who’s been raped before by a gold-digging bitch, I’ve never felt more dehumanized.
Which is why it’s a breath of fresh air to see a feminist speaking against this question.
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The “few poison M&Ms in a bowl of M&Ms” analogy has also been used as an argument against immigrants(and racial minorities in general)
Bigoted argument are used by bigots, go figure
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This sentiment and the comments of that video have led me to begin to understand why so many men are turning to people like Andrew Tate… As abhorrent as his views are, he’s at least reaching out to men who feel that society has thrown them in the trash; leftist organizations have practically left men out in the cold. Male suicides, loneliness and depression are high and nobody’s really giving a damn about any of that despite saying how concerned they are but in the end aren’t really doing anything about it… They’re not putting anywhere near the same amount of effort Tate is doing and it seems to be because they’ve already dismissed men as worse than animals…
No wonder the world’s turning to shit: not enough of the good people are doing enough to help the beleaguered…
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In Vino Veritas
538 released launched their forecast model.
The model gives Biden a slight edge. They note that while Trump is ahead in polling in key swing states, they’re all well within the margin of error. And that while Trump’s support has stalled or even retreated in some places, Biden’s has steadily grown.
They also note that the fundamentals favor Biden. The economy is doing fine overall, he has the incumbent advantage, Kennedy’s support has fizzled, he faced no major challengers in the primary, and other than the Gaza situation there hasn’t been any major national scandals (Trump however has had several.)
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Apples and Pears
Hunter Biden has been convicted on all three felony gun counts.
So can conservatives stop whining about how the system is out to get them?
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That’s hard to do because that is the backbone of the state the food growing business is a big business especially over there in Cali.
Hell they hold festivals for certain food. Garlic being a big one over there in Gilroy.
The problem is less that California has all kinds of high value crops, but that the industrial labor development of the state makes producing those crops at high volumes and high values elsewhere. I remember reading articles about how hard it is to make lightning strike twice on crops like almonds or pecans elsewhere in the US, especially in states where the crop is more original to. But they consistently fail to start or reach the expectation threshold because the sort of finely tuned skills California agriculture produces is absent.
They have people whose entire job is, for example, to dig the perfect hole to plant a tree and they got something like a 99% hit rate on digging the perfect hole
So moving that industry out of California will take a lot of high-cost effort elsewhere in the US or the impending ecological catastrophe
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Also many of California’s crops take a long time to begin producing, so it’s a long term investment before it starts paying off, it’s not corn ECT where you can make a new field in a year and expect a solid harvest,
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In Vino Veritas
Sucks for Hunter, but politically it’s the best outcome. If he had been acquitted, there would have been no end to the “double standards” screaming from the right.
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If the reason these Tate followers became so because they felt mistreated by women/feminists/society in general, then yes.
People get in with bad crowds because they were crying for help and if the only ones responding to their cries are those bad crowds, they’re going to end up being influenced by them for better or worse. It’s just human nature.
Germans in the 1930’s became nazis because Hitler was the only one who offered them what looked like a very attractive solution to their problems. MAGAts turned to Trump because they felt he was the only one who could seriously help them against a world that was treating them like shit. Young people turn to gangs because the system failed them while gang leaders gave them cozy promises.
Not saying any of this is good but when people are backed into a corner, they’re going to turn to someone who’s willing to provide help, even if that help may very well be a bad influence. Again, it’s human nature.
The “man or bear” question is only going to dehumanize men, including the ones who have done nothing wrong, which will only create more misogyny in the long run, and when you make men feel bad just for existing, they’re going to turn to the only one who’s giving answers. The left sure as hell isn’t doing enough to help men feel like human beings.
Bottom line: when you make someone feel bad for something they didn’t do just because other members of their group did (“guilt by association”), they’re going to internalize that and not in a good way. Justifying any form of hate out of a desire to want to be safe is still hate and will only create more enemies.
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I’m sorry to hear you specifically had a traumatic experience with a woman, and I wish you nothing but healing. If it’s any consolation, feminist writers have written at length about how patriarchy hurts men too, whether it be by setting unrealistic standards for life achievements or sexual prowess, the way that they look, or - and this is relevant to you especially - how men can get raped too, and face the wrath of western rape culture when they attempt to speak out, albeit in a slightly different way than women.
But the simple fact of the matter is that disproportionately, by a wide margin, women are the ones most likely to experience violence from men than the other way around. It can and does happen, but there’s a reason why left and feminist writings so often focus on woman survivors. That is why women feel unsafe around the average, generic man. Our society puts the onus on women to prevent their own assaults, and when something does happen they’ll be dismissed as a liar or the one at fault for the incident.
At the end of the day, there is being offended at women preferring to meet a bear in the woods than a man, and there is the way a whole lot of men are responding to it now, which by and large is only affirming the reason why women are picking the bear. It also kind of illustrates a point when with few exceptions, these guys think that a woman being annoying to a man or spending a man’s money is equivalent to a woman feeling physically threatened by a man.
Laying men embracing misogyny on women not prioritizing their feelings and egos - which most women already do in day to day life - is kinda bullshit. Hell, this whole conflict is why women are now dropping out of dating or finding a husband altogether.
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Germans in the 1930’s became nazis because Hitler was the only one who offered them what looked like a very attractive solution to their problems.
Not really, no. Not at all actually. While the Nazis polled 20-30% in the Federal elections in the thirties they were never really the strongest party, even in the center-to-right camps they sabotaged. They only managed to literally get into power because everyone else was playing games vs each other and the guy calling the shots was aging Junker Hindenburg who put Hitler into the position of Chancellor purely because at the time he was not known to be actively fucking around. But by this point his position among the German Middle Class was slipping.
Then the NSDAP drew out the knives and couped power and turned the democratic mechanisms against itself
No one became Nazis, they were made to turn into them. Especially once professional appointments became locked behind party membership later in the 30s
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Fetterman recently gave an interview to Fox News, saying that he had a near-death experience with his recent stroke and that has made him become “less progressive” as a result.
I know we joke about The Onion predicting the future but this is the first time the fucking Babylon Bee has done it…

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