Don't blame me, I voted for the other guy. (Politics General)

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Enjoying the knowledge that Europe is out of paper until sometime next year apparently and having fun considering it the Polish Revenge for being low-cost labor in Europe.
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It would be very much appreciated if more of you Yankees are keeping an eye on the EU, regarding their copyright and surveillance policies.
It also applies to America and other nations of the world, since some boomers are too dense to heed valid warnings on policies that threaten basic rights.
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Reading into the new child labor laws, and some loopholes are abound that’ll let employers pay them even less than minimum wage. In some places 14-15yo who has worked less than 90 days at a specific business are allowed to be paid $5.90 an hour.
Yesterday I was asked if I was anti-capitalist. Well I wish I waited a day to answer, because the above sentences are exactly why I am anti-capitalist.
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@Dustcan
Like I said before: this would’ve never been allowed under Keynesian capitalism, or any far more strictly regulated forms of capitalism.
I sincerely hope that you understand at least take the time to acknowledge, for clarity’s sake, that this child labor situation is occurring within an economic system of near-unfettered neoliberalism, and that by calling yourself an anti-capitalist because of neoliberalism’s faults, you’re conflating neoliberalism with more left-leaning forms of capitalism that actually has regulations implemented by the government, such as the Keynesian economics, as well as that by conflating them, you are essentially buying into the idea that these two forms of capitalism—Keynesian and neoliberal (and/or possibly social democracy)—are the exact same system as one another, which is absolutely, objectively false.
I really do hope that you know what you’re saying and implying here, man.
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I do know I’m short-handing definitions here, but thanks for the explanations.
I’ve been told I’ve advocated for a Keynesian-style economic model before, so one of these days I’m going to have to sit down and study up on it.
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@Background Pony #A191
When the current dominant form of capitalism is the neoliberal one and any attempt at regulating this ungodly mess is decried as “socialism”, it’s little wonder so many people define themselves as “anti-capitalists” (and I say that as a mixed economy supporter).
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@Ereiam
They’re still not translating any genuine clarity in their message(s) to other people by labeling themselves as being anti-capitalist, unless they are absolutely, genuinely anti-capitalist.
This is a danger, because it will attract people who ARE genuine in their beliefs of and adherence to that message, and those people are going to think that the ones who aren’t genuine in that message are on the exact same side as them. Shoe0nhead’s base of hardcore zoomer socialist and communist Twitter followers is an absolute perfect example of this, even though June (a socdem, herself) isn’t entirely anti-capitalist.
Neoliberalism is flawed to the point that does need to be reverted back to Keynesian economics—no beating around the bush about that—calling oneself a blanket anti-capitalist, however, is going to do very little to translate any proper feeling someone may have about what they feel regarding only neoliberalism.
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At peace in the knowing that NeoLiberalism isn’t some mutation in the development of capitalism but the natural course of its development after the disruption of the world wars.
ty Stalin for helping to preserve this course of history v cool
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Sure, but I still appreciate the correction. I’ll still shortcut my rants out of habit, but explanations like that does let me know where and how I’m incorrect.
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Are you suggesting that Stalinist or Soviet socialism is a better alternative to corporatist/neoliberal terror?
Also, here is an example of a cultist - as in “antivaxxers are so obsessed with their ‘freedom’, that they’ll beat you up if you ask them to avoid getting sick”. A very paranoid lot, those Americans.
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They are always worse—full-stop, period.
With all that said, though, there are better alternatives to neoliberalism, such as Keynesian economics at rightmost and social democracy at leftmost—the ultimate goal ought to be to replace neoliberalism with either one of these two forms of economic systems, anywhere in between, or a mix of the two or any systems in between.
…Now if only any of the self-described bona-fide socialists and communists of today will finally attempt to address this point and actually attempt to disprove/refute/debunk it, because so far, they have not.
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I’m not even sure if Violet Rose, Ereiam CaptainXtra, Vit, Aaron, Commune, Igotnopicks, or anyone else, for that matter, even ever attempted to debunk the idea that Keynesian capitalism, social democracy, and/or anything between the two could and should be implemented to replace neoliberalism, rather than selecting any economic system further left than social democracy to be the replacement.
Personally, I genuinely am interested to see what any one of them would have to say on this matter—and no, I really am not trolling around, here; I am truly, sincerely interested to hear what they have to say about it.
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If you believe that what the judge did wrong the most, here, was merely letting the lawyers use the terms “rioters, looters or arsonists”, then I’m afraid you just need to rethink some of your moral priorities on this issue.
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Pretty sure he’s upset at the judge’s constant and blatant coddling of Rittenhouse. Not to long ago the same judge refused to allow evidence of ties to Proud Boys, thinking it would “poison the trial”
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Get rid of the electoral college. Make it one person, one vote, and whichever candidate has the most votes wins.
That seems like common sense to me.
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Rittenhouse has already broken parole at least once, maybe twice.
Combined with the Proud Boy bar thing and now this, it does leave a distinct impression that the kid gloves are on for this one.
I don’t know the site or the author, so Imma just assume he’s trying to meme.
I hope that’s all.
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It’s a blatant shitpost article; not really satire, just “how dumb of a premise can I type words and get people to click and get angry at me for”.
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Won’t ever happen.
Rigging elections by determining some people to be worth more than others is ingrained in American society, be it gerrymandering to split up the voting power of minorities piecemeal among guaranteed wealthy white districts, ensuring that a voter in Alaska has twice the presidential voting power of someone in Colorado, or how a voter in Idaho has sixty eight times more power in the Senate than someone in California.
Inequality is in America’s DNA.
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