Don't blame me, I voted for the other guy. (Politics General)

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No, that's the thing they are very savvy about. Especially in America's two party system.

You don't have to be good at your job. You just have to convince enough people the other guy is worse.
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And when the other guy really is cartoonishly evil, it gives you a lot of leeway. Probably too much.

"Should we really be suspending habeas corpus? Probably not, but…"
"Should we really be allying ourselves with Stalin? Probably not, but…"
"Should we really be waterboarding prisoners? Probably not, but…"
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Biden is now creating an investigation team to look into that "Coronavirus is from a Wuhan lab" theory.

Okay. So we'll be able to put that theory to rest or it'll be less tinfoil hat than we thought.
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I'm not sure about "global", but the last guy spent half his announcements declaring one investigation after another into whatever rando conspiracy he saw on Twitter that day.
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Given how the intel we have on it appears to be solid for once, it indeed got worth getting to the bottom. Wonder if China's gonna consider it more in their interest to at least give the appearance of cooperation (because I'm sure there'd be some copious amount of ass-covering on their end either way) or outright stonewall the investigators while playing the "victim of foreign interference" card though.
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Apparently Andrew Niccol wants to make a movie about the Christchurch massacre. The response here in NZ: WTF?! I honestly don’t blame either muslims or others here getting upset that not only is a movie being made so close to the event, but that it’s about our fuckwitted Prime Minister’s reaction to it. I’m sure muslims here have suffered enough, and shouldn’t suffer more so that the PM can be further aggrandised in the eyes of her fans here and especially abroad.
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Apparently Andrew Niccol wants to make a movie about the Christchurch massacre. The response here in NZ: WTF?! I honestly don’t blame either muslims or others here getting upset that not only is a movie being made so close to the event, but that it’s about our fuckwitted Prime Minister’s reaction to it. I’m sure muslims here have suffered enough, and shouldn’t suffer more so that the PM can be further aggrandised in the eyes of her fans here and especially abroad.


Welcome to the 9/11 cycle.
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I was actually going to ask my American brethren whom lived through 9/11, what they thought of the 9/11 movies that came out in the 2000s. Did they, like me, want to put the ordeal behind them and try and move on with their lives?
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I was actually going to ask my American brethren whom lived through 9/11, what they thought of the 9/11 movies that came out in the 2000s. Did they, like me, want to put the ordeal behind them and try and move on with their lives?


I don't remember watching them myself. But from what I remember the reception of them ranged from "too soon" to "damn wtf".
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I don't mind them as long as the focus is on the people or the events themselves. If I remember right most Americans seemed to agree (United 93 was well received).
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@Dustcan
Neither socialism or private companies is the true cause. The problem right now is more on the supply side. Right now lumber is through the roof, and Biden will be increasing tariffs on imported lumber soon. Add on to that the increased prices caused by regulations and red tape and what you get is less houses and less starting homes. Supply is being restricted, and what is there is being snatched up by not only companies but also boomers retiring.
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Supply is being restricted by, you guessed it, private companies. More specifically, intermediate handling companies that buy/own the lumber in between it leaving the mill and arriving at the store.

This isn't a song of regulation and red tape, but one of greed.
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@Zincy
Your conflating two of my points. Lumber prices aren't going up because of regulations and red tape, they are going up primarily because of COVID, on top of that though are tariffs originally established by Trump which Biden is increasing. The red tape and regulatory issue is driving home prices up for home builders and is absolutely an issue.


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Yeah, it's a cheap, sturdy, and easy to use building material here. Some people will use other materials but for most places in America it is not necessary.
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That's precisely the issue: the focus is on Prime Minister Jacinda Arden's response to the event, which is the reason why this announcement sparked such outrage (to the point Arden herself took her distances with the movie, claiming not having had anything to do with it).
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@Ereiam
Yeah, that would annoy me as well. I think part of the problem is in 9/11 you could easily focus on the heroism of so many people. Not only the United 93 passengers but also the first responders. I think that helps a lot with how people would view the movie.
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You would need large scale real instability in the entire country. Not like the surface level stuff people have been complaining about for the last couple of decades. I'm talking serious issues where the rest of the world no longer wants to hold the USD. It's not really a concern in the near future. My biggest concern with that would be through either serious inflation or crippling debt levels in the country. Basically the world would need to be so distrustful that they would switch off the dollar as a reserve currency and switch to something like the Euro. I've heard some fringe people claim the Yuan could take it's place, but right now that is just China fearmongering.
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@Zincy

…Americans build their houses out of wood?


No we build them out of oil. Or most of them.


@CaptainXtra
What would cause the US dollar to collapse?

And could that happen anytime in the near future?


As BP said some real instability. The value of the dollar is carried by the ability for the US to enforce empire and our productivity. Collapse of both takes time, though we may be in the beginning stages of the former.
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Lets see what goes on in the american school system:

https://twitter.com/thevivafrei/status/1403165030359633925 — is this a good message?

Parents at local levels in some status have concerns over the subject being taught:

https://krdo.com/news/2021/05/17/parents-speak-out-against-teaching-critical-race-theory-in-el-paso-county-schools/

https://www.jacksonvilleinsider.com/north-florida-parents-express-concern-over-critical-race-theory-in-ahead-of-state-discussion/

And then from someone that have experienced the real thing:

"I can’t really just say what I mean, even though the other side can say whatever," she said. "To me, and to a lot of Chinese, it is heartbreaking that we escaped communism and now we experience communism here."

In her speech to the school board, which officials made her shorten to fit the one-minute limit, she drew direct parallels between what she saw back then in China and what she sees in the United States today.

"The Communist regime used the same critical theory to divide people," she said. "The only difference is they used class instead of race."

She said she witnessed students and teachers "turn against each other" during the pogrom and saw schools change their names "to be politically correct."

"We were taught to denounce our heritage, and the Red Guards destroyed anything that is not communist…statues, books and anything else," she continued. "We were also encouraged to report on each other, just like the Student Equity Ambassador program and the bias reporting system."

"This is indeed the American version of the Chinese Cultural Revolution," she said. "The critical race theory has its roots in cultural Marxism. It should have no place in our school."

https://news.yahoo.com/virginia-mom-survived-maoist-china-101114265.html

American educators playing with fire it seems. Question is why?
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