Don't blame me, I voted for the other guy. (Politics General)

@Background Pony #675E
 
No, I just don’t know what those are. This time I’m falling on the stupid end of Hanlon’s Razor.
 
But what 30 seconds of googling tells me is that the entirety of Netherlands is only about as big as South Carolina. So would their methods work across the entirety of of eastern, south eastern, and western America? Because the extent of my knowledge over flood prevention is levees, and when those fail we get what happened to New Orleans a decade and half back.

@Violet Rose in The Rain  
Same as it’s always been for me. Support candidates that put America first.

Saw this comment on a YT video:
 

 
Definitely relevant in the recent wage debates.

@MagpulPony
 
So your only answer to a complex problem centuries in the making is a vague platitude with roots in the Ku Klux Klan.
 
I look forward to the rest of us moving into the future and leaving you behind.

If you look at 2:00 in this video you can see how far right American culture is. That shit’s actually scary to look at, and I’m Australian.

@Violet Rose in The Rain  
I didn’t assume, I just know that it is potentially possible that their system could be replies on an immensely large-scale. There are many civil engineering accomplishments achieved by humans in the past that was said to be absolutely impossible to achieve, beforehand, so I have high confidence that this can potentially be pulled off.
 
If sea levels keep rising, it’s the only way to ensure that such displacement of humans will never really happen.

@Background Pony #675E
 
The entire world fucked the pooch when it came to COVID-19 and you think they’re capable of handling an even slower, more insidious threat that requires more money to solve?
 
Were you raised under a rock or did you somehow decide sticking your head in there was a good idea?

@Violet Rose in The Rain  
Doesn’t that apply to every climate solution, though?

@Wiimeiser  
>American culture
 
>far right
 
 
You’re delusional. American culture as a whole is not “far right”. Only somebody who’s extremely left-wing would unironically believe that.

@Violet Rose in The Rain  
Okay, doomer.

@Background Pony #675E
 
Oh, and that’s not even the only problem. We’re looking at food supplies taking a massive hit and famines for up to a billion people when low-level farmlands are too flooded even for rice.
 
The Middle East and South-central Asia will grow increasingly uninhabitable, which will create a refugee crisis on a level we’ve never seen before (again, we’re talking upwards of 150–200 million climate change refugees by 2050 displaced, for reference the ~2014 EU refugee crisis was like, I believe a few million people, maybe 20 million tops)

@Violet Rose in The Rain  
Again: Levees. The Dutch. LEARN FROM THEM.

@Background Pony #675E
 
Because levees somehow solve the problem of farmlands in, say, Iowa being wiped out in a single nasty storm.
 
Out of curiosity, how will your vaunted Dutch solution save the Great Barrier Reef? Or how the precious economy will be doing when salmon are extinct?

@Background Pony #675E
 
Okay that solves the flooding problem.
 
Now solve the temperature and animal extinction problem.
 
I mean, you’d think vultures and rabies prevention wouldn’t be a thing, but then you watch this and wonder what other invisible hands we benefit from.

@Dustcan
 

@Dustcan  
Well, of course those can’t necessarily be solved like the flooding. I never suggested otherwise.
 

 
@Violet Rose in The Rain  
LOL You actually believe that this is some playground-level game of “owning” someone?

@Background Pony #675E
 
Go ahead and think that building a glorified wall’s going to keep something out. Cause that worked out so well for Trump voters, didn’t it?

@Violet Rose in The Rain
 
I mean this time around levees have been historically proven to be useful even as a modern solution.
 
But I again mention New Orleans circa 2005. I still think it’s a better idea to remove the can altogether rather than keep kicking it down the road.

@Violet Rose in The Rain  
False equivalence. You clearly seem to know jack shit about how civil engineering works.

@Dustcan  
What exactly do you mean by “remove the can altogether”?

@Background Pony #675E
 
Rather than just build higher levees to combat higher tides we combat the thing making higher tides. Climate change. I’m talking combatting climate change. Stop that and you won’t need higher levees, or at least need them later rather than sooner.

@Background Pony #675E
 
All the things I’ve said about the negative effects of climate change and your only response is, “build more levees.”
 
I mean, if you’re gonna keep moving the goalposts and never address mass extinction; oceans getting warmer; longer, more intense droughts that threaten crops, wildlife and freshwater supplies, just come outright and say so.

@Latecomer
 
Yes, and it’s more a case of spending smartly than any major technical hurdles. My preferred solution, solar power collectors at the L1 Lagrange point, would be an extremely expensive undertaking (likely in the hundreds of billions of dollars), but it also lowers the amount of sun reaching earth and provides the planet (and cislunar space) with cheap and unlimited solar electricity. Once built, it would be cheap to maintain, and would basically pay for its own maintenance.

When I first saw this whilst browsing on Twitter, my reaction could only be summed up with just one phrase:
 

 
 
L O L

@Dustcan  
Of course! I totally agree with that in principle! How we are going to do that may need to be worked out in a way that is reasonably objectively fair and just to enough of an extent for all parties, whilst being reasonably effective enough against climate change, but even with that in mind, I definitely agree with you.