Don't blame me, I voted for the other guy. (Politics General)

@silbasa  
Russia is the general example of a bad starting point though - it was basically still pre-industrial peasantry.

@Ereiam  
Why, exactly, should I take advice from—or waste any further time I have responding to—a guy whose responses to me are consistently comprised of usually nothing but ‘Gotcha!’ posts and deflections with barely any constructive criticisms, whatsoever?
 
If all you’re willing to do is essentially do nothing but point out whatever unintended and/or honest mistakes or inconsistencies that I may have made, when I generally do a pretty good, if not, decent job of avoiding them, then maybe I should start doing the same thing to you, whenever you make any unintended and/or honest mistakes or inconsistencies.
 
Also, the only person that can ever decide for me which people are “obviously not worth my time” is myself, and myself alone. And buddy, YOU are most definitely not worth anymore of my time, right now, although I will answer your reiteration of Latecomer’s hackneyed and pointless question on how I would ‘define’ the “patriarchy” when I have the time to do just that, when I no longer (albeit temporarily) have any major priorities to focus on, and THIS is not one of them.
 
 
Oh, and one more thing: actually think about what I just said to you, here, for once.

@Vivace  
I cant. You are indeed correct. I do not understand it. I do not share it. I find it fundamentally wrong on all possible levels.
 
@Latecomer  
The marxist economy dont work. Thats the main problem. You say capitalism kills people, I see it keeping people feed and clothed. How to make communism work in a modern first world nation? I have no idea outside of Star Trek replicators.

@Latecomer
 
Oh I agree that the media industry is phenomenally shitty towards women, especially Hollywood…but just because it’s probably the worst offender, doesn’t mean that all others are just as bad. For some industries, especially traditionally male-dominated ones, it would be more of a respect and tone issue that hampers women, while in others there’s not enough women in them, thus can be seem as sexist because with less women, there’s less that will rise to the top, thus any that do will be seen as exceptional.
 
Look, I want more representation in the workplace, but I don’t want it to come about through ham-fisted or misaimed means. The focus should be on encouraging women to enter all roles, and to ensure that the attitudes of those people already there don’t hold them back. It should also be as meritorious as possible, because that helps ensure that resentment and backlash culture doesn’t take hold of the endeavour.
 
@silbasa
 
France has got a bigger Macron problem than a Muslim one, and the DDR doesn’t count either, since the soviets pillaged the place to extract reparations after WW2

@silbasa  
“I oppose what I can’t understand.” Xenophobia-addled idiots like Boomer back there have the same line of reasoning.

@silbasa  
You’re assuming that my position was, as you put it, that there’s “no problems in France”. That’s where you’re wrong: we’re merely disagreeing on the nature of said problems.  
Unlike you, who stop at a superficial lecture of the situation, I try to see the bigger picture and consider both islamism and islamophobia as two sides of the same intolerant coin, both of which ought to be fought with equal vigor.

@Ereiam  
He does not understand what you say, so he therefore opposes it.

@Ebalosus  
Doesnt count, dont matter never tried… It never worked and it never will. Lets try something else?
 
@Vivace  
I oppose turning my for now relatively safe country into one that has montly terror attacks yes. Whatever that makes me I leave up to you to define.
 
@Vivace  
You want utopia. Noble enough. But people brains dont work like that. Never have. Ever society ever has tensions. The more different people there are the more tensions there are. Thats why homogenus countries are more stable. What we see in France now is the end of that.
 
@Ereiam  
And your solution is then more of what have not worked for the past decades leading to ever escalating attacks? I genuinly wish you the best and hope you figure something out.

@Background Pony #3364  
Why did I delude myself into thinking that you were arguing in good faith? Thanks for reminding me that you’re not worth my time either.

@Ereiam  
What did you expect from someone that acts like they’d apply for US citizenship just to vote for Trump and own the libs?

@Background Pony #9A93  
To be fair, with so many background ponies on this thread, it’s easy to lose track of who is who.
 
I’m sorry, that was racist.|| /s||

@Ereiam  
Could you actually try not to assume things about me, for once? That would actually be very productive for the both of us (you more so than I, result-wise), and yes, I’m actually serious, here, like I have pretty much usually been, in this thread.
 
Also, if (and I do mean if, not when. This isn’t an assumption, this is a question.) you’re intellectually and/or philosophically unable to punch above your weight (like I am) when responding to people like me, then just own up to it, either publicly, privately, or both in a sequential manner, and be done with it.

@Background Pony #3364  
If you don’t owe us shit, then neither do we. I think we’re done here.

Would ppl in France just chill down a little? We’re still in the middle of pandemic. Look at your figures. You just beat Spain in daily cases. Spain, aka pound-per-pound numbah one corona cases in Europe, to the point that you’re locking down parts of your country for an entire month.
 
Is everyone all over the world so freaking BORED that they feel like they could just go out and murder people, abuse authority, burn shops, raid government office, demand a king to dethrone and now start a religious war over a cartoon.
 
Corona-Chan is probably like “Did everyone forget about me or something?”

@tehwatever  
We’re reconfining countrywide tonight (turns out partial curfew didn’t cut it).  
Glass half full, it’ll be harder to have terror attacks with less people out and about, so I guess that takes care of this immediate issue as well — on the short term anyway (coronavirus might prove easier to cure than intolerance however).

@silbasa  
If you can’t work past superficial differences, you’re shallow as fuck.

@Background Pony #9A93  
Buddy, I am natural-born US citizen, have been one all my entire life, have lived here all my life, and will continue to live here my entire life, and I have not once ever voted for Trump, and I never will. You are barking up the wrong tree, here.
 
Also, assume less, about others, for fuck’s sake.

@Ereiam  
Reminder that terrorists don’t care about Corona, so you will pretty much have to go down on ppl going out past curfew REALLY HARD. Especially on muslim workers and business owners. Which may eventually lead to further conflict but I’m really hoping french muslims would just swallow their ego and eat the blows, tbh.

@Ereiam  
That would make sense, if what I’m asking of you was just as disingenuous, deflective, and as much of a ‘gotcha’ attempt as what you were asking of me, but you do you.

I heard that Macron is doing what UK is doing: namely demonizing flat out racist and far-right parties while at the same time normalizing their discourse to both get the votes of right-leaning, while also promoting themselves to uphold progressive values.
 
Kinda SLICK not gonna lie
 
Kinda stings, to be honest. It hurts muslims especially hard.

@Ereiam  
@Background Pony #3364  
TBH I thought he was replying to Silbasa as they were the immediate post before

@tehwatever  

 
In response to what’s highlighted in bold, all I can really say is [CITATION NEEDED].

@Background Pony #9A93  
Ah, that’s understandable then, I guess. Thanks for the clarification. 👍

@Vivace  
He spelled the word “Muslim” wrong, one time?

I don speek ingles. clarify to me pls.
 
You mean to say “unable to punch someone above your weight like me” or mean to say “I cannot punch above my weight, you can’t either”?
 
I assume the latter because the structure is “You are…Like I am” implying comparison. But I could see it like “above your weight, like I AM” implying you’re above his weight.
 
Hmmm….