Don't blame me, I voted for the other guy. (Politics General)

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Trump: Biden will ‘listen to the scientists’ if elected
 
To answer your question, no. That’s not a satire made up by the Onion. That’s a direct quote from Trump, and the larger paragraph it was pulled from just makes it worse.
 
 
Fox News passed on Rudy Guiliani’s story about Hunter Biden’s laptop over credibility concerns.
 
Concerns that were revealed to be well founded to their credit, but yeah even Fox News of all things smelled a rat when Guiliani walked into the room. Well, the execs at Fox News did. Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t Hannity jump on this story like flies on crap?
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I wonder if there is another country in the world that is so systematically racist, like Germany. So much so that our Minister of the Interior Horst Seehofer (CSU, Christian Conservative) would rather distract from the police and the authorities, rather than commission a study of racism in society. The problem is that, unlike the police, society cannot exercise executive power or, unlike the authorities, cannot exercise legislative power.
 
But there is also latent inner-German racism. Thirty years after the reunification of Germany, there is still strong resentment between West and East Germans. Also Northern Germans are uptight, Swabians are isoteric Corona deniers, Bavarians are Christian jerks, citizens of Berlin are anarchists and Saxons hate everything that does not come from Saxony.
 
And in North Rhine-Westphalia (my homeland) we are anyway overrun by foreigners and since the end of the German economic miracle the unrealistic green beggars of the nation. I could expand the list at will, but I think the core of my statement is clear and unambiguous.
 
And if we do not all secretly hate each other, then we are Europe’s know-it-all, completely ignoring how firmly German politics is held in the hands of the domestic automative industry thanks to lobbyism. If this continues, Germany will not be able to survive as an industrial nation, which is mainly dependent on its exports.
 
But thanks to Covid-19, we can cover up everything for now and instead argue about the sense and nonsense of Corona measures. So much so that one week after the ban on the accommodation of people from Corona hotspots, we can overturn this again in court, and after a meeting of all state ministers, we still cannot show up a general concept for all. Because sparsely populated areas such as Mecklenburg-West Pomerania do not want to follow the same rules as densely populated areas such as North Rhine-Westphalia. Ha, federalism, how it lives and how it doesn’t work.
 
But I don’t want to complain about federalism. No, after all, at the beginning of the crisis, this, together with the excellent evil social health care, was responsible for the comparatively fewest corona deaths. And also in view of the second wave, we are in a good position compared to our European neighbours.
 
But Covid-19 is going to kick our ass this year (as at least a simulation from Saarland University predicts), the economy dominated by the automotive industry still doesn’t have a plan for the future, and politicians prefer to continue to inflate our parliament with members despite previous reform (so much so that we can afford the largest parliament in the world with taxpayers’ money, right behind China) and our conservatives refuse to settle with countries such as Poland, Austria and Hungary, simply because their nationalistic governments adopt a conservative style. But Neville Chamberlain and David Lloyd George also believed that one could negotiate with a political extremist and hasardeur like Adolf Hitler. But presumably people like Jarosław Kaczyński, Sebastian Kurz and Viktor Orbán are completely harmless and are at best completely misunderstood.
 
Conclusion: while 2020 may have brought many things to the attention of a broad political public, we are still light years away from solving these problems. And I don’t want to start with our ailing military. Sometimes you can be so proud to be a German citizen. Uch…
 
Can I now apply for an European citizenship?
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@Goku Black
 
If you think having to wear a mask is a violation of your freedoms, then it is clear that you are someone who is weak and never had to actually sacrifice anything in your life.
 
 
This anti-maskers aren’t freedom loving patriots. They are spineless, spoiled tools who, if they lived in any of the other times when America had to really sacrifice for our survival, like the rations during WWII, they’ve of been labeled as anti-American sedious elements. They are only getting away with this bullshit now because their sugar daddy supports it.
 
They are pathetic, lazy, selfish fools who don’t give a rat’s ass about freedom, they just don’t want to do anything to help each other, and want to “own” their opposition by being grevious little sweat goblins.
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@Zincy  
Or people who lost their small business because due people accusing them not,following guidelines or those mad at government officials for going out in public without a mask. There are also those who are mad at those who decided to put covid19 into nursing homes in including the seniors in the homes.
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@phoenixacezero
 
In my opinion, the CCP is just one of many evils and not the only excuse why everything is going down the drain at the moment.
 
Xi Jinping and his political clique can certainly be accused of a complete failure to contain Covid-19, but other nations have also completely failed to prepare for the threat, take it seriously and enforce appropriate protective measures. It’s rather shameful that someone like Trump would simply lie to his people (making excuses that it was just to avoid panic, of course), or someone like Bolsonaro would simply prefer to live on in his own bubble.
 
In my opinion, the Corona virus has simply shown how bad the isolation of the media has become, how deep the mistrust of the people towards their respective governments is, and how incapable we have become of communicating with each other in a reasonable and honest way. I can understand why our youth is (rightly) upset about this, and how few people of a certain age are able to admit the faults in the world. Instead, we prefer to continue to believe in secret elites who want to dominate and oppress us.
 
To cut a long story short: China may be a syntom. But it is not the root of all evil. It only shows us how bad things can still get if we are not able to pursue a consistent, responsible and forward-looking policy.
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@DarkObsidian  
Do you want to open pandora´s box like the U.S.A. has? The Moment we open the “study book” on the Police in Germany you will never be able to close it. You will never be able to investigate singular Policemen or Groups in the Police it will Always blow up to “ALL THE POLICE” even if only 0.1% might be guilty.
 
But hey you want to go from our Little internal conflicts (innerracism seriously? Do you believe we are different races?) to a larger European secretly hating each other Status, be my guest XD.
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You know what would really help him get back in the race? Talking shit about Fauci!  
“People are tired of Covid. People are saying, ‘Whatever, just leave us alone.’ People are tired of hearing Fauci and all these idiots,” Trump said on the call, which included press.
“He’s been here for, like, 500 years. He’s like this wonderful sage telling us how — Fauci, if we listened to him, we’d have 700,000 [or] 800,000 deaths.”
El Presidente must be absolutely furious that the “nerd” is more popular than the “alpha male”.
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@Backgroundpony  
Er, no - a record of cleaning up their own house reliably reduces the accountability of the police as a whole for each officer’s actions. The problem is when they cluster together protectively around each other.
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@Backgroundpony
 
Well, personally, I don’t shy away from Pandora’s box, because in the end it still contains hope. But yes, I agree with you, a study like that would probably be quite ugly. However, I disagree with you on the following points, or would like to clarify something beforehand:
 
  • I’m not a friend of ACAB  
  • I’ve always wondered why ACAB used to be an issue, especially in violent groups, not only with left activists, but also with hooligans, autonomists and non-nationalist skinheads  
  • I think the 0.1% is completely inadequate in view of the investigative journalism of Valentin Gendrot, the dismantling of a complete company of the KSK and the exposure of racist WhatsApp groups by the police of North Rhine-Westphalia  
  • I consider racimus, or race theory in general, to be completely stupid, but believe in a single human species (there are dog breeds, but no human races)
     
    Whenever it comes to the terminology of the difference between people and race, it sometimes turns my stomach around. However, I would like to point out that since the end of the Second World War there has been no clear scientific and/or social scientific research into this issue. At least not in Germany.
     
    Precisely the post-war period until the reunification in 1990 showed that an ideological and political attitude (capitalism vs. communism) seems to be much more important than tackling the internal problems. And as long as there was an economic upswing, nobody seemed to be particularly interested. And the misconception that people will simply return to their homeland seems obvious to me not only since the problems of migrant workers in Germany. The only problem is that integration is not just a matter from below.
     
    Without the willingness of the state and the authorities, full integration is, in my view, an impossibility. This does not mean that you have to accept any nonsense, but even the Romans were better at welcoming foreign cultures into their own ranks than any nation is willing to do nowadays. A gift of the 19th century, when the question of a nation state was seriously debated for the first time. Only we are still in this pattern of thinking. For me, a state is defined not only by the administration of its own indigenous population. Germany is neither the exception nor the rule here. This applies worldwide and has the sometimes most absurd consequences in the history of mankind.
     
    But I don’t want to go too far. Let’s stick to the situation today, where an 18-year-old Muslim in France is beheading his teacher. And then he gets shot by the police. In my opinion, this is a prime example of the problems we face here in Europe today. For decades, we have failed to fully integrate Muslims and other peoples into our democratic community. Is there a form of European Islam? Nope. In view of the murders in Halle (Halle synagogue shooting) we were able to integrate the Jews into today’s Europe? Have we ever been able to make a difference between people, race and religion, or to convey our values credibly to others? When will we finally have to admit that we have a fundamental problem here in Europe to bring all parties together and to promote full, honest and enlightened integration?
     
    We have not even been able to solve our internal problems since 1945. Not just us here in Germany. Worldwide, too. Instead, economic interests are still being pushed forward to divert attention from these sorts of problems. Because no government sees itself capable of tackling these problems from the very core. No, instead we limit ourselves to national resentments, according to the motto: our nation against the rest of the world. Without pointing out that nowadays no nation is able to address the economic, social and also medical problems alone (in view of Covid-19).
     
    We are so entangled in our hateful thinking against others that we don’t even want to realize that the same blood is flowing in our veins. Of course, I am not a Messiah who now has the answers to all the questions of mankind. But the fact that we are constantly ignoring all the problems, instead of really tackling them, is a crime for me even in 2020.
     
    As after 1945, we only want to believe that people do not inflict cruelty on other people, that there are no genocides (except that of the National Socialists on the Jews - and even that is still denied by many today), that all climate and war refugees are merely economic refugees who want to enrich themself at the expense of our prosperity, and that people of a different skin colour than white are first-class citizens, at least in Western democracies.
     
    To put it in German: Ja, ne, is’ klar.
     
    And when it comes to Europe, I am well aware that not only does everyone hate Germany, but that there are also many resentments among themselves and also within the nations. So the French hate the Bretons, the Poles hate the Protestants and the Jews, and practically everyone hates or fears people with black or levantine skin. I am exaggerating here, of course, and on purpose. Still, there’s a spark of truth left.
     
    But hey, as long as the economy is running and those responsible continue to benefit, what does it matter to the states what the mob wants? As long as we tolerate rat- and garbage-filled refugee camps on our European external border, Europe will continue to be able to continue its divided existence. As long as we accept the troops of a foreign-continental superpower. It doesn’t matter if they’re Americans, Russians, Chinese. We wouldn’t give a shit anyway. ;-)
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You know it’s a little presumptuous to assume that I have made no sacrifices in my life when I made plenty already. (I.e.: I took 5 years worth of English class in high school in order to graduate which I was barely able to do, I dropped out of college to look for a full-time job so I can contribute to my household…by paying the internet bill, etc.)
 
You’re not entirely wrong about me: I am a selfish prick. There are some sacrifices I am not ready or willing to make, as they are likely not worth the time or the money. Most of the sacrifices I made in my life has so far been in vain.
 
But who are you to chastise me for being selfish? Aren’t you a bit selfish, yourself in some way? I find it hard to believe and I find it laughable that anybody thinks of themselves to be completely selfless. You can’t take care of others if you can’t take care of yourself, after all.
 
Me pointing and laughing at things like the failed Solyndra company, the shitty Green New Deal, the Commiefornia exodus of its middle-class, the eventual failure of SJW Cancel Culture, etc. Should be of no concern to you, at all. It’s entertainment, in the end, and I am but one voice only and one vote only.
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@Goku Black
 
I’m not completely selfless, but there are degrees of selfishness.
 
The world is not black and white, and you can be more or less of a selfish asshole.
 
I make my choices with at least a passing consideration for how they’ll affect others. I am not convinced that you do.
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Fauci really is in an unenviable position. He clearly wants to save lives while Trump doesn’t. So he either A) follows Trump’s narrative and gets people killed, or B) tells the truth and gets fired for telling the truth then gets replaced with a toady who’ll yes-man whatever Trump says and thus get people killed. So Fauci has to walk a tightrope on informing the public without getting fired.
 
Because in the Trump administration are “honesty” and “saving lives” mutually exclusive concepts.
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It’s something that is safe to make a big fuss about, and make it look like they’re doing something “useful” without having to actually do something “useful”. Because, in the end, that road is so well worn that it leads straight to the first amendment, and all that’s left is just picking up a couple pieces of lint scattered along the freeway, and declaring “I’M HELPING! LOOK HOW MUCH I’M HELPING!”
 
Also I personally think most of them are repressed perverts that don’t want anyone else to find out what kind of shit they really wack it to.
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It easy blame an object connected to person to minor way than to blame the person and figure what caused a person to commit an act. Pron is easy blame cause it connected to s** and some people lead to people to believe to what cause them to become predators, when in reality it’s situation that led them to become one and pron is more of a “stress reliever.” And the easy access of it led to less of a chance of people becoming one. This is why Australia has a higher case of assault than that of Japan.
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@DarkObsidian  
I know I should probably try to answer some of your Questions, but  
  1. I don´t know the answers  
  2. I wonder a lot of the stuff myself  
    and  
  3. I am way more interested in your answer to your own Question and how you figure it should go:  
    “When will we finally have to admit that we have a fundamental problem here in Europe to bring all parties together and to promote full, honest and enlightened integration?”
     
     
    @Latecomer  
    It really does not. You put everyone under general suspicion and once you are under it you don´t come back from it.  
    The police union also don´t want to reduce accountability. Heck they want the bodycam to always run not just after an incident, but the data protector lobby does not want it.
     

 
I don´t want any general study on race/racism here in germany. I work with neonazis, punks and all sort of foreigners on the construction side (melting pot of racism). We got everything from school drop out to professor that was hit hard by life. Believe me noone benefits from it. It is only creating more tensions, hate and fearmongering and we only have to look over to the USA that it had done nothing good for them
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@phoenixacezero
 
You mean follow the example of how despite being the 4th most populated state in the country New York has like the 32nd highest infection rate of Covid? I gave up counting down for Michigan (it’s that low), but I’unno sounds like Cuomo has done a pretty good job keeping his constituents alive.
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What they should be addressing is porn addiction.  
Imo there should be way more hoops that a person should jump thru before finally getting to see what’s behind the hijab.
 
Having the ability to undress a woman and see naked tiddies at the push of a button is priming user for laziness and is feeding the cycle of tolerance buildup that may lead a person to some real extreme shit that can only be done on virtual women.
 
That potentially destructive cycle is what we should warn porn users against.
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