Don't blame me, I voted for the other guy. (Politics General)

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@Dustcan  
That’s bull shit and you know it is. They’ve tried to undo everything Obama did because Obama’s policies were crap, not because he’s a black man. Truly staggering that you came to that conclusion.
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[screams in German]
I like how the US is the only one that’s concerned about “reparations from slavery” while the rest of the world has already moved on and is better for it. Funny how backwards one of the strongest countries in the world is.
 
“Reparations from slavery”, hah! What fucking bullshit.
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@Scrabbleman  
We’re also one of, if not the, only nation who went to war to decide the fate of the institution, after which we ended reconstructive efforts very prematurely after about 1 decade.
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@Angrybrony  
I probably am but I wasn’t wrong with the US being stupid about it. The current political climate is crap and people are arguing over dumb things while the actual problems are running rampant.
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Build commie blocks!
@Scrabbleman
 
What about laws that aren’t (or aren’t intended to be) on the face of them racist, but their implementation is racist due to pre-existing factors? Is that not systemic racism?
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@Ebalosus  
You mean like prosecuting murder or denying people probation based on how many crimes they’ve already committed?
 
@Angrybrony  
We’re not the ones saying that massacres of random people should just be expected until we get what we want. Maybe take a look in the mirror.
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[screams in German]
@Ebalosus  
Probably. Then that’s not the fault of the laws themselves, is it? If a law for equality is being abused by the people in power, then we already have names. So why blame the laws?
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@Latecomer  
Well, I think that police and courts often treat black and white suspects differently based on those generalisations. The article I posted above is related.  
Thanks for the link.
 
Like I keep saying, I accept systemic reforms wherever necessary, since the detrimental aspects of corruption cannot be overstated. The problem I have is that a bunch of literally whos are pushing radical proposals to disband departments, which could lead to anarchy and lawlessness.
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Build commie blocks!
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That, or Biden’s gun control platform that would disproportionately impact poors and minorities, and lead to (as usual) the state confiscating their property at the behest of worried well-off people.
 
@Scrabbleman
 
…except it’s the laws themselves that are causing the problems. Eminent domain and the war on drugs are the same, where it’s the laws that are further impoverishing the disadvantaged, even if enacted and enforced by the most egalitarian people ever. It’s why Sorkinite liberals give me the shits, as they can’t see that the policies they support are what’s creating the problems they’re trying to solve.
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@GasMaskGuy98  
Anyone with sense calling for a department’s dissolution means it only as a prelude to it’s re-establishment in a more functional form. (Yes, there are quite a few people without sense. But I think the other side has more.)
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@GasMaskGuy98  
Because they’re generally not reflected in crime statistics, at least not here. Despite the connotation that it’s “oh, just tax evasion, embezzlement, no big deal,” it does have serious consequences.
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@Latecomer  
Anyone with sense  
In other words, anyone not M4BL:  
We believe that prisons, police and all other institutions that inflict violence on Black people must be abolished…
Again, I advocate some needed police reforms and better community/police relations, but this is just foolishness.
 
@Vivace  
Ah, okay. Thanks.
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@GasMaskGuy98  
Yeah, someone pointed me to them and groups like them a while back. Overidiealists and people soured on a rotten system. (And I’m all for abolishing racially violent institutions - but police and prisons are still necessary.)
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