Don't blame me, I voted for the other guy. (Politics General)

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Well the break down from off the top of my head.
 
Pros: It’s good optics  
  • he already promised a woman running mate, so following through is brownie points in both honesty and progressiveness  
  • there’s undeniable symmetry in Biden, the VP to the first black president, potentially having the first black VP  
  • with the ongoing civil unrest due to racial tensions, a black running mate is a brilliant move
     
    Cons: Everything deeper than skin level (no pun intended)  
  • Harris and Biden are both indirectly-if-not-directly responsible for the current racial unrest. They caused the problem, and now they’re profiting from it  
  • Harris got as far as she did in the primaries because she spoke truth to power when she told Biden he was a racist on a live national stage, and he was complicit in her struggles during her upbringing. Guess Biden’s not that racist anymore, huh?
     
    I guess what I’m saying is it’s not surprising that the Biden campaign’s only point of favor is still the ‘Better than Trump…I guess’ angle.
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@Dustcan  
I don’t agree that she was only picked because of her skin color. I think they deliberately chose someone who hit him hard during the debates, to create a “Team of Rivals” atmosphere without giving any ground to the progressive wing. The campaign was really playing up that performance toward the end, making it seem like it would be so hard to forgive, so that when it is forgiven, he gets to look all statesmanlike and shit.
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@Dustcan  
Saying she was “only” chosen for her skin color is going too far. She’s a sitting Senator, is fairly charismatic, has decent name recognition, and having already participated in the primaries, has undergone enough vetting/media scrutiny that there probably won’t be any surprise scandals.
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No, it’s simply the result of white women making their own choices about whether to have kids. Land of the free, remember?
 
Being a minority isn’t a road to genocide unless the majority wants you dead.
 
 
@silbasa  
They will if the maintinence of such priciples is prioritised over the maintenance of certain racial demographics.
 
 
@Metro_Offset  
American culture is not dependent on white dominance.
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I don’t know why people keep saying I think its genocide when I said genocide is too narrow a term.
 
Yes it is. Country was built by whites and American cultural values are white European ones. Do you think Xinjiang will be the same once the Uyghur majority are replaced by the Han Chinese? Do you think Kashmir will be the same once Hindus push Muslims out? Do you think the culture and traditions they built should be destroyed?
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Country was built by immigrants (some considered white at the time, some added later) on the back of slaves and the graves of natives. And cultural values are transferable - if they’re worth transfering.
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@silbasa  
Some people are. And exposure in youth plays a big part, if I’m not mistaken. To use an example from the show, I’m pretty sure Spike is a lot more comfortable around ponies than dragons.
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@Latecomer  
I’ll throw in my edit. Do you think Xinjiang will be the same once the Uyghur majority are replaced by the Han Chinese? Do you think Kashmir will be the same once Hindus push Muslims out? Do you think the culture and traditions they built should be destroyed?
 
This country was built by whites, not by slaves, who barely made America money and certainly not by Natives. This country was not the same when Natives were annihilated and it won’t be the same when we’re gone either. It’ll be much worse.
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@neutralgrey  
If the government is so incompetent, how could they be covering anything like that up?
 
 
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If we took of our cynicism hats for a moment, we might even consider that her words actually made him think about what he’d done in a way he hadn’t before.
 
 
@Metro_Offset  
I think America is not China. It’s supposed to be better. And there doesn’t have to be a violent struggle - whites can give way gracefully, and a better America will come.
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Lmao. Literally addressed nothing I said. If slavery was such a big boon for the US economy, why didn’t the economy implode when it was abolished? There is little evidence to suggest that slavery was the backbone of the US economy in the 19th Century. The US economy simply did not experience the kind of catastrophic loss we should expect from abolition in that case, instead it was around 4% which it quickly recovered according to US GDP estimates by Johnston and Williamson’s and wealth that was created was often stuck in the slave system. Cotton is really the only substantive thing people can come up with.
 
Meme argument to make lefties and black people feel good.
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Kamala Harris may not have been picked entirely because she is a black woman, but I believe it was definitely a factor. Biden thinks he can tap into identity politics nonsense and fool voters into thinking he’s progressive. He thinks the same idiots who voted for Obama just because he is black or who voted for Hillary just because she is a woman will vote for him if Kamala is on his ticket.
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I’ve thought about that question quite a bit, and I have a theory.
 
For most of her career, Hillary was vilified as a wild-eyed socialist agitator. She probably saw Bernie running to her left in the primaries as an aberration from this trend. She certainly sees herself as being on the more liberal side of the spectrum. From this perspective, Kaine might have been seen as a way to balance the ticket.
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@Latecomer  
Wow, you didn’t answer my question at all. But that has got to be the most brainwashed sounding answer ever. Uyghurs can also give way gracefully to the Han and a better China will come out of it. Bro are you hearing how super villain you sound right now?
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You used a big ass wall of text to say nothing addressing the salient question: of the wealth generated in the South, how much of it resulted from the institution of slavery? It clearly did benefit the South since the preservation of the institution was chief among the motivations for the creation of the Confederacy.
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