Don't blame me, I voted for the other guy. (Politics General)

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Probably busy being told by their boomer parents that those predatory debts that they would’ve never been able to pay off in their lifetime is all part of the natural lifting by the bootstraps process and that they should be overjoyed that wage slavery is going to be back on the menu soon.
“Fuck you got mine (and made sure future generations couldn’t)”.
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I’m not sure I buy that theory
Think it’s more likely they are activists who do have good intentions but are just really, REALLY dumb
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Im not saying that both can’t be possible at the same time, just that over the past few years, “X is actually a false flag psy-op by Y to make Z look bad!” is just a VERY popular take parroted around by the far-right and other conspiracy theory idiots over people calling their groups out whenever they do something awful (See: Alt-Reichers saying the Jan 6th rioters were just leftists trying to make Trump supporters look bad), so that’s just soured me to theories like that, so when people seriously say that something is being done to make a certain group look bad, i just can’t take it as a serious theory anymore becuase this sort of stuff is heavily involved within far-right circles
I just find it easier to believe that people do this stuff out of genuine stupidity/awfulness rather then some deep conspiracy to try and make certain people look bad
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https://www.yahoo.com/tech/pornhub-to-leave-five-more-states-over-age-verification-laws-194906657.html
PornHub will soon be blocking access to their site in five more states in protest of age verification laws.
For those of you not keeping track, that site is already blocked in Arkansas, Mississippi, Montana, North Carolina, Utah, and Virginia, with Texas being the most recent addition only a week ago. Joining those next month will be Idaho, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, and Nebraska.
That’s a total of 12 states, and when you do the math, that amounts to a little over 23% of the total population of America. Make of that what you will…
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I mean, I’m not exactly opposed to keeping porn away from children or even young teens.
But IIRC the proposed laws risk the privacy of the viewer with, among other things, requiring to upload photo ID. It’s a sledgehammer solution to something that needs a scalpel.
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Doesn’t help that the places that would be storing those IDs at best will have to take heavy precautions against intrusions and at worst will gleefully sell or happen to lost information to parties that are very interested in making lists.
It’s the “For the Children” excuse being used to slide by radical profiling and anti-privacy measures.
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Biden needs to get his campaign going, Trump has a lead in this poll: https://www.economist.com/interactive/us-2024-election/prediction-model/president
Democrats are worried Biden’s campaign is not good enough and needs to change focus, but Bidens inner circle seems to be content with the way things are: https://www.axios.com/2024/06/19/biden-faith-campaign-mike-donilon-2024-election
Extremely concerning. And since no court seems to be able to stop Trump it seems he will run again. Project 2025 looms on the horizon.
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In Vino Veritas
Be a little skeptical of the Economists aggregate. I’m not saying they’re completely unreliable, but their polls and analysts tend to skew right. They were one of the voices saying Trump was a shoe-in for 2020, and that 2022 was going to be a red wave.
The Economist tends to poll its reader base heavier than the public at large, so they tend to lean more right and be generally older.
We shouldn’t outright disregard it, it’s still useful data, but don’t fret on it too too much.
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Adding to that, the media loves a horse race, so they have an incentive to present polling data as a dead heat with potential for a Trump comeback (which admittedly is far more possible than I’d like it to be).
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In Vino Veritas
At this point, judging by trend data, history, and other factors I would be surprised if Biden lost his reelection. Not shocked mind you, as Trump has a real chance, but I’d be surprised.
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In Vino Veritas
No, I’m saying Biden is more likely to win, but that Trump definitely has a chance.
Incumbent advantage is real, and massive. So massive that if it weren’t for Covid, Trump would have won in 2020. Incumbent presidents rarely lose, even when the rest of the deck stacks against them. It often takes monumental failures and problems for an incumbent president to lose.
The “keys” to the White House is one of the most accurate measures of who will win ever developed. So far, Biden has 2.5 locked down. He’s an Incumbent, and did not face a major primary challenge. The .5 comes from the “mandate” key, which is when a party holds the house and senate during a Midterm. The dems technically lost the House, but by the smallest margins in history, and gained in the Senate. So, they sorta got that one.
A lot would have to go wrong for Biden to lose. That’s not impossible, per se, but unlikely.
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if it weren’t for Covid
Also I think his blaming other presidents for things presidents can’t control, like the price of gas, kicked him in his own nuts. The crowd supporting him now are post Jan 6 though, and they seem much more empowered by simply blaming others without any evidence to support it.
Not saying Republicans got smart in 2020. But I do think the smart Republicans lost interest in the lolcow show Trump made out of the country without draining any swamps, building any walls, or making Mexico pay for anything. Plus the commercial war he started with China. Lots of the formerly “Republican for EVAR” people I know in the C-suite spent 2020 looking for alternatives. Going back to stability I think is where most of them ended up. The rest cast a write-in vote for the Flying Spaghetti Space Monster or moved to E-Stonia.
This time around, most of them are talking about how just changing the president isn’t enough. And after years of Mitch McConnell and Manchin they have first hand evidence that obstructionist government and trickle-down supply side economics doesn’t create the productivity and marketplace they want. An actual quote; “If they make Americans any more stupid who the fuck is going to even buy this?” Talking G5 products here, which Republicans and the hard right have done a stellar job of fucking up the ass, market-wise. And there’s nothing being promised by stuff like “Project 2025” that doesn’t make their lives and companies suck even harder, and the marketplace even less. Those who even talk about politics are biting the “vote for someone who will do their actual fucking job” bullet.
So … yeah - covid sucked hard and had a big impact. But all that other stuff did some real lasting damage to the Republican party writ-large.
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STOP PROJECT 2025!
“And there’s nothing being promised by stuff like “Project 2025” that doesn’t make their lives and companies suck even harder, and the marketplace even less.”
Wording seems a bit weird here.
You make it sound like that Project 2025 is good for them, (Pro-MAGA), directly.
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“And there’s nothing being promised by stuff like “Project 2025” that doesn’t make their lives and companies suck even harder, and the marketplace even less.”
Wording seems a bit weird here.
You make it sound like that Project 2025 is good for them, (Pro-MAGA), directly.
That’s the other way around, actually. What he’s saying is that Project 2025 is good for nobody except big business, and the smarter Republicans are getting wise about that.
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Everyone is talking about Labour’s lead in polls for the UK election but nobody seems to be pointing out that a) Starmer is just running in continuity with the less insane Tory wing, aka the UK equivalent of Bush/McCain/Romney voters, and b) all Labour’s moderation has done is increase the far-right Reform Party’s poll share. Not great!
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