Don't blame me, I voted for the other guy. (Politics General)

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Meanwhile, aside from Ted and Kev (who isn’t even running now) Dems occupy the top fundraising spots for Senate and House.
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Rank and file Republicans are apparently getting tired of the Freedom Caucus and the MAGA crowd in the house. With some prominent Republicans blaming them for the continued failure of border legislation, big Dem wins, and the rancor that is starting to impact fundraising.
Dems have barely had to lift a finger in the last few months, the Republican majority has done all the damage by repeatedly punching itself in the face.
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Could a national divorce work? It’s become clear for almost a decade that red states and blue states have fundamentally different values.
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I saw Civil War the other day and it was one of the best movies (that’s not part of a pre-existing franchise) I’ve seen in a long time.
What was Alex Garland smoking when he thought that Texas and California would be willing to form an alliance together? Those two places couldn’t be any more different. A Texas-Florida alliance would make much more sense because they’re very similar in almost every single way.
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@Background Human I hereby propose entities hailing from these nations shall be known forevermore as… CRINKlies 😆😎😆
@Background Pony #9C9C Both are too horrendously corrupt to accept such an arrangement. When they’re winning, they aren’t making any money!!!
They both want to lose because that’s when fundraising goes UP UP UP 💸💸💸💹
You can thank 🐢 for starting both parties on this “Oh we’ll get them next time!” politicking style
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“National divorce”
Got to give Moscow Marge this one. She went through her own divorce so like a Karen she wants to make it everyone else’s problem.
But no, despite what a howler monkey pretending to be a person thinks, the country isn’t that divided. Red State/Blue State monikers imply bigger differences in their populations than there is.
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US is divided, but what that really means is that people’s opinions are divided. Those supposedly red or blue states are still very much divided internally. What’s more, while some people are clear cut Democrats or Republicans, others have complex political opinions. One person hates immigrants and wants to fight global warming. Another person wants to allow both abortion and machine guns.
The problem is that opinions are often extreme in both directions, that people feel very strongly about them, and that they are not willing to talk to each other. They only yell at each other and make memes about how the other side is evil, stupid, ugly, etc.
Politicians don’t mind it because they benefit from fanatical voters. America’s enemies are also happy; some try to stir it up as much as possible.
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My friend saw it and loved it, and he’s as political as they come. It is deliberately vague about the political motivations behind the titular civil war, as Garland himself stated that the audience can decide that for themselves. Instead, the movie did its homework in realistically portraying the human impact that a civil war has on everyone caught up in it, and just happened to set it in the US to convey it in a way Americans would understand.
As an aside, if a civil war drags on long enough, it usually just devolves into a bunch of warlords and gangs murdering everyone who is not rolling with them. The stated political ideologies of the factions involved often get reduced to window dressing. So in a way the movie being vague about the warring sides’ politics is fitting.
There is nothing “civil” about a civil war, and my friend thinks the movie got that across quite well.
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U mad?
It’s confirmed. Ukraine will get long range ATACMS missiles with this aid package. Putler’s goons better be ready to die.
And contrary to what Magats think, not all of the money is going directly to Ukraine. 23.2 billion will go to replenishing US arms stocks, while an equal amount goes to Ukraine. The rest is:
*11.3 billion for current US operations in the area
*13.8 billion for purchasing weapons systems, defense products and defense services
*26 million for monitoring the aid provided
So yeah most of the money will come right back to the US.
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Ukraine will get long range ATACMS missiles with this aid package.
Without permission to strike inside Russia their effectiveness will be limited.
Still, better than nothing though. Good to see the US somewhat going gloves-off for once.
“You can always count on Americans to do the right thing - after they’ve tried everything else.”
-Winston Churchill
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Quite literally no one believes secession would work, especially since it didn’t work the first time.
Even most of those who support keeping Confederate monuments up (which they shouldn’t) or don’t believe they fought to keep slavery (which they did) will tell you that in hindsight the Confederacy was an awful idea and they don’t want it back.
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